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14 Mar 2010 5:53 PM  

Was just watching that vid that Madness posted and it got me thinking (Yeah, dangerous I know)

Those who have been to the States....hoe hard did you find it getting used to riding on the right?

I guess it wouldn't be all that hard when you're out on the open ride but I'm thinking it might get a bit more confusing in the cities.

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14 Mar 2010 6:41 PM  
My sister came back here after a year in the US She drove out of the driveway and directly into the right lane.
scaring the shit outta me
A mini-bus turned right straight into the path of a full size bus on the pacific highway a few years a go at Bonville.Killing 5
The driver was American.
These happened with right hand drive cars.

The same would be for Bikes.

Rule one.
Don't daydream when your in a foriegn country ..

It's a nice caddy that has 55.000miles on the clock.
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14 Mar 2010 7:20 PM  

I have not ridden in the US (although I have driven a car there), but I have ridden in Europe, which is the same thing, as they are on the other side of the road to us as well. I was doing fine until I got to the first roundabout, with signs writtwen in a foreign language, IN PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC!!! FFS!! if ya think riding around a roundabout the wrong way in a busy city aint interesting, think again! Those roundabouts just feel so weird! But, I survived and thoroughly enjoyed it.In fact, after about 3 or 4 days I was so used to it, it just felt normal, so much so that when I got back home after 4 weeks of it, it took me a while to get used to the way I have done it for 30 odd years! Go for it I say, but keep your wits about you , if ya get complacent, thats when ya will slip up, and it may be all over red rover!


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14 Mar 2010 8:41 PM  
Ridden in the states twice 2003 and 2008 - riding for 7 weeks and covering approx 16,000 kms for each trip
On the open road - not a problem except remembering right lane is slow lane

In the towns - going in and out of gas stations / parking lots

Biggest issue was crossing the road - you ride for the day concentrating , get off the bike , get ready for a night out walk to the road , start to cross looking to the left ( as you have had drummed into you for since age dot and then you feel and hear the car coming at you from the right : 3 lane road one way - that was scary !!

Survived both trips ( just after the first one - when I t-boned a car in San Fran dropping the bike off to be shipped back !


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14 Mar 2010 8:49 PM  
Posted By FLAN on 14 Mar 2010 6:41 PM
My sister came back here after a year in the US She drove out of the driveway and directly into the right lane.
scaring the shit outta me
A mini-bus turned right straight into the path of a full size bus on the pacific highway a few years a go at Bonville.Killing 5
The driver was American.
These happened with right hand drive cars.

The same would be for Bikes.

Rule one.
Don't daydream when your in a foriegn country ..


I have driven in the US & scared the crap out a myself & my passengers in the 1st couple of days, but generally it was ok afterwards, except for the times when I was testing out their herbal tabacco supplements then it got scary again. I used a sort of mantra to chant to myself to keep the white line on my left but it can get a bit scarey at big intersections with more than 5 or 6 roads joining.

 That was the 1st time then about 10 yrs later I found it much better & I used a much more mature approach to drugs & alcohol, didn't use them when driving. After the 1st trip which was about 6 months long I very near killed myself back home, I pulled off from the side of the road onto the wrong side of the road to be confronted by a fully laden concrete truck coming down & around a bend straight for me.

But having said all that America is an awsome country to travel in (avoid the cities if possible), The West, from Baja California in Mexico to the Rockies in Canada & a couple of states in from the Pacific Ocean is probably one of the most beautifull areas on the planet. The variety of mountains leaves the European Alps for dead.

Hey have you got the chance to drive a car for a couple of days to get used to the other side of the road.

 


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14 Mar 2010 9:43 PM  

 I don't think it's as hard as most folk think.

 

The thing that I found had the most potential for drama was the left hand turn, just gotta keep remembering to keep to the right.

In the City traffic, it is sometimes easier and quicker to just go to the next block and turn right, right, and right again to come back on line with the street that you wanted to turn left into.

You can turn right on a red light in most states, (sort of like our give way rules).

There doesn't seem to be the same level of Road Rage in the States as what's here and folk are more forgiving there.

Coupla tips, if you're intending to ride a rental, ask them for a machine with "out of state" plates, the locals notice and tend to give ya a bit more leeway.

And if you intend on taking pics, get yourself a camera that you can use one, and left handed. There may be pics you wanna take but can't pull over.

 

 

 

 

 



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15 Mar 2010 7:09 AM  

It's pretty easy to change over to driving / riding over there. I lived over that way for about 12 years before moving here in 02 and i actually found it harder to change back to driving over here than i did when i first went over there. I also did a 6 week / 20,000km run over there in 08 and had no problems.


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15 Mar 2010 2:23 PM  

I lived in North Carolina for a year and both rode and drove all the time I was over there. Believe it or not, it took me longer to get used to driving on the LHS when I came back here than it did to get used to driving on the RHS initially - maybe it's actually more 'natural' to drive on the right? Anyway, like others have said, open road's great (better than here - you can actually open it up and ride like you're meant to. The cops aren't arseholes either). City riding takes concentration - DON'T GET COMPLACENT - like here, the moment you think you're shit-hot, you've had it.   Absolutely agree with previous comment about less road rage. American drivers (particularly on the open road) are generally pretty polite and there's a lot less tail-gaiting. As a matter of fact, when I first got there I tried driving like I was in Melbourne and cut in front of someone. Not only did the guy I cut in front of start abusing me but so did the guys in the other cars who saw me - difference is, you're EXPECTED to be polite.  To sum up, just don't forget to concentrate and you'll find riding in the US a hell of a lot more enjoyable than here.

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15 Mar 2010 7:30 PM  

My rule of thumb was follow the guy in front. (as long as they're a local that is!!)


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16 Mar 2010 9:31 PM  
Each time I came to an intersection, I would say to myself Lefty longy, Righty tighty. Sounds dumb but I was confident driving after a couple of hours. Multi lane intersections were more exciting but I stuck to the same rule.

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16 Mar 2010 10:48 PM  
I rode around LA and San Francisco, Laguna Seca, Monterey, etc and the only hassle I had was when I'd go to a carpark - for some reason I'd get confused there. Or when I was entering a road the next morning from a private residence, I had to think twice. Californian roads leave ours for dead - even the GOR doesn't compare. Have fun...
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18 Mar 2010 9:27 PM  

You guys make me laugh, there would not be much difference in driving here (USA) than way over there.  I guess getting use to the kickstand being on the right side as versed to your being on the left side would take some getting use to.  The USA is very active in preventing drinking and driving.  You go immediately to jail for it, do not pass go!  I disagree with the road rage comment as many here carry hand guns and we have a lot of morons who would use them for minor traffic infractions (depending on location).  Each state has different attitudes towards there fellow human being.  For instance in the middle of the country the people are far more courteous than say where I live (Fort Lauderdale, FL). 

I believe you guys would feel right at home with your Mad Max vehicles except some use heavy assault rifles in place of bow and arrows here.  And yes I am kidding with the exception of a few neighborhoods whereas it is a must to be armed if you go into them (no, I am not kidding).  As in life, one should know where you are headed prior to going.  If you go down an alley, you had better know how to back out beforehand.

 

 


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19 Mar 2010 1:45 PM  
Quoted;
I guess getting use to the kickstand being on the right side as versed to your being on the left side would take some getting use to.
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Still with the kickstand .?
They are on the same side .!

It's a nice caddy that has 55.000miles on the clock.
One careful owner,one that didn't drive it then there is me.. It needs a little auto electrical work and some rear bumper infills.Other that that it is one nice cruiser.
Looking at around the 10k mark.
I will part trade..
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19 Mar 2010 3:10 PM  

 The rule that I use EVERY time I come to a corner is "Long left, tight right". (It's true that the left hander is the one that gets you into trouble from cutting the corner).

It's actually pretty easy, but its gets more dangerous as you get used to it because then you start driving from habit again. 

It's a lot easier though than you'd think so you won't have any problems...long left, tight right...


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19 Mar 2010 4:05 PM  
each bike i have seen in photos from the USA, the stand has been the same as here, on the left.

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20 Mar 2010 9:46 AM  
Posted By steamer on 19 Mar 2010 4:05 PM
each bike i have seen in photos from the USA, the stand has been the same as here, on the left.

Yeah steamer but don't forget the blinkers work in reverse. You use the left one to turn right and the right one to...ahhh you won't fall for that one :)


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20 Mar 2010 2:39 PM  

Hi there

 

Just found this topic and read it with great interest. I'd like to ask a question (dumb as it may sound) but I'm planning a trip to the US in August and have the option to ride either a late model Fatboy (have an '03 of my own) or a Heritage Softail Classic with a windshield. Now, I gotta be honest all the Harleys I have owned or ridden not one of them had a shield. Never ridden a bike with one. I wear glasses or prescription sunnies if that makes any difference.

The intinerary is LA -> Grand Canyon ->  Monument Valley -> Las Vegas ->Yosemite National Park -> San Fransisco and then down the coast back to LA. It will be fairly warm to hot in some places and I am wondering if the Heritage might be a better riding option comfort wise with the windshield. I need to work it out in the next few days so I can "book" the bike. I'm still leaning towards a Fatboy though so any advice would very helpful.

 

 

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22 Mar 2010 1:09 AM  

I live on the other side of the country (about 3,200 mi away) so I am of no use to you on that.  I live in S. Fla. and when the need to see beutiful scenery overpoweres me, I ride to South Beach in Miami, than to the Keys.  Lovely mountains if you know how to look for em'

 

 


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Posted By conmore on 20 Mar 2010 2:39 PM

Hi there

 

Just found this topic and read it with great interest. I'd like to ask a question (dumb as it may sound) but I'm planning a trip to the US in August and have the option to ride either a late model Fatboy (have an '03 of my own) or a Heritage Softail Classic with a windshield. Now, I gotta be honest all the Harleys I have owned or ridden not one of them had a shield. Never ridden a bike with one. I wear glasses or prescription sunnies if that makes any difference.

The intinerary is LA -> Grand Canyon ->  Monument Valley -> Las Vegas ->Yosemite National Park -> San Fransisco and then down the coast back to LA. It will be fairly warm to hot in some places and I am wondering if the Heritage might be a better riding option comfort wise with the windshield. I need to work it out in the next few days so I can "book" the bike. I'm still leaning towards a Fatboy though so any advice would very helpful.

 

 

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Personal choice is what it's all about, and it's all about you at the end of the day,,,,, but for that run my choice would definitely be the Heritige Softail Classic.

You got a few miles to cover and even at that time of the year while the temps can be warm on the East side of the Range, it can get bloody cold down the coast from SFO to LA when the fog rolls in. And that can keep coming well into the afternoons.

The Softy will also have luggage and ya gunna need that. 

(If it's EagleRiders that your getting a rental from, let em know what your up to and they're normally more than happy to set up what you need.)

Bloody nice run you got planned, watch out for the girlies in the Mustang convertables through Yosemite,,, and if you get the chance, make sure you do the run into Muir Woods just north of SFO, it's awesome.

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22 Mar 2010 11:25 PM  

Hi there

Thanks for the info, much appreciated but now the date has changed from August 5th to September 9th to hopefully fit in with a buddy of mine who is seriously thinking of coming as well but can only make it in September. One question I needed answering though: was the vision issue through or over a windshield?? And yep you hit the nail on the head the tour is through Eagle Rider as you suggested. I actually spoke to them and Heritage was also their suggestion but said if I wanted a Fattie it would be no problem. A support vehicle is provided to carry any extra luggage and extra stuff you might have.

 

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