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  • 2005 FLSTFI Posts: 371
    PERTH
    Stage 1 Poster 2005 FLSTFI
    13 Jan 2011 02:08 PM

    Anybody on here use injector cleaner in their bike.

    How often

    What type

    How much do you use at any one time.

    thanks for any input in advance.

    PS: Any queenslanders reading this, stay safe will ya's

  • AJ56 Posts: 1815
    Tasmania
    Motor Head AJ56
    13 Jan 2011 02:20 PM
    Morey's Upper Cylinder lubricant. Few squirts in the tank every so often. Whether it is maintaining clean injectors is another matter . I put some in my daughters car when she bought it as it had injector noise and it cleaned them out and got rid of the noise. So it must be ok.

    Depending on how many K's your bike has done will depend on how dirty they are I suppose.
  • Dicey Posts: 151
    The Gong
    Stage 1 Poster Dicey
    13 Jan 2011 04:36 PM
    How do injectors get dirty? Isnt it high pressure fuel going through them?? How does that now keep them clean?
  • AJ56 Posts: 1815
    Tasmania
    Motor Head AJ56
    13 Jan 2011 05:18 PM
    Carbon deposits, petrol is not that clean
  • Smylea Posts: 0
    Smylea
    13 Jan 2011 05:26 PM
    The additives in the petrol deposit a varnish like film on the pintles and injector holes slowly restricting fuel flow. About 1/4 of a bottle of injector cleaner every 10,000 km will keep them clean, alternatively they can be removed and cleaned in an ultrasonic bath about every 40,000 km or at about 60% duty cycle. Loss of power is too slow to notice, injector duty cycle is steadily increased by the ECU to compensate for the restriction. Most automotive multimeters will let you check duty cycle.

    Ray
  • DuHast Posts: 0
    DuHast
    13 Jan 2011 10:39 PM

    Lucas UCL in all my cars n bikes over the years, fantastic product, my SG gets a shotglass in every tankful, Lucas UCL is one of those maintenance products you get great results with if you use it consistently, if you buy some gummed up second hand car or bike, after a few tankfuls you notice the difference, it takes a while but Lucas is just a light oil and it softens those hardened carbon deposits and they then get shifted, great stuff, at around $18 a litre its cheap and lasts ages for a bike, if you do a few cars also it can get pricey so I'm now looking at going the ashless marine 2-stroke, many are using it with great results http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91206

    If you cant be arsed with an additive at every fill up then you may just want to go something strong every six months or so to keep carbon deposits to a minimum, anything with the chemical Polyether amine in it also known as PEA is the one you want, redline, nulon, and techron have this.

  • 2005 FLSTFI Posts: 371
    PERTH
    Stage 1 Poster 2005 FLSTFI
    14 Jan 2011 11:17 PM

    Thanks for your input guys

    Moreys, Lucas, Redline etc, basically all the good quality brands it is then

  • Lastrain Posts: 243
    Fraser Coast QLD
    Stage 1 Poster Lastrain
    15 Jan 2011 02:56 PM
    Posted By DuHast on 13 Jan 2011 9:09 PM

    Lucas UCL in all my cars n bikes over the years, fantastic product, my SG gets a shotglass in every tankful, Lucas UCL is one of those maintenance products you get great results with if you use it consistently, if you buy some gummed up second hand car or bike, after a few tankfuls you notice the difference, it takes a while but Lucas is just a light oil and it softens those hardened carbon deposits and they then get shifted, great stuff, at around $18 a litre its cheap and lasts ages for a bike, if you do a few cars also it can get pricey so I'm now looking at going the ashless marine 2-stroke, many are using it with great results http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91206

    If you cant be arsed with an additive at every fill up then you may just want to go something strong every six months or so to keep carbon deposits to a minimum, anything with the chemical Polyether amine in it also known as PEA is the one you want, redline, nulon, and techron have this.

    Checked out the link and what they claim makes sense and sounds like it is worth trying,

    I am not sure I am working out the ratio properly, the mentioned mix rate was 1 oz of 2 stroke per 5 gallons fuel which I worked out to be 1 oz = 29 ml and 5 gal = 18.9 ltrs.  this will give a ratio of 640:1 me thinks? which should work out to be about 1.5 ml per 1 ltr ?????

    Is this right or have I cocked something up? seems very lean but I guess it is worked out for 4 stroke engines not 2 strokes.

  • DuHast Posts: 0
    DuHast
    18 Jan 2011 03:26 PM

    Hey Lastrain 500:1 is the ratio that most run with good results.

    To work out a mix for 19L tank >  19,000ml (Fuel) Divide by 500 (ratio) = 38ml of 2stroke

    Just make sure its the marine spec TCW3

    Let us know how you get on if ya try it out.

     

  • Lastrain Posts: 243
    Fraser Coast QLD
    Stage 1 Poster Lastrain
    18 Jan 2011 05:19 PM
    Thanks DuHast, 500:1 = 2ml per litre, that should be a little bit easier to measure and remember.

    Will probably try it in the cage first, the bike has only got 10,000 km's on it so probably fairly clean still, I do plan on using it as a preventative though and am planning a big bore and head upgrade in the future so I will be able to have a good look inside at how well it works.

    Will post up on how I go with it.
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