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  • cdvreede Posts: 37
    Stock Poster cdvreede
    04 Apr 2019 09:14 PM
    Quoting JFE on 27 Mar 2019 09:26 AM
    The only way I’ve heard that ppl are making EV’s work is to use them for around town duty and charge them overnight from their home solar system. Got a mate that does that with his hybrid Mitsubishi. A bike could work for that but if the Livewire is circa $40,000 then you aren’t buying one to save $$!

    If/when I get to solar, I’d consider a set-up for the run around car but for now the outlay costs EV car + solar + adequate home charging point don’t add up. That will change as energy prices keep going north and inevitably, government will intervene more to subsidise EV’s and solar (please note I don’t totally support taxpayer subsidies for EV’s, their infrastructure or solar). 

    Outside of all this, I have a level of faith technology will evolve enough in the next 5-10 years that will make what we take for granted now to be ‘old news’.
    solar not that good for overnite charging - especially in winter...
  • paulybronco Posts: 11834
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    04 Apr 2019 10:29 PM
    Quoting JFE on 27 Mar 2019 09:26 AM
    The only way I’ve heard that ppl are making EV’s work is to use them for around town duty and charge them overnight from their home solar system. Got a mate that does that with his hybrid Mitsubishi. A bike could work for that but if the Livewire is circa $40,000 then you aren’t buying one to save $$!

    If/when I get to solar, I’d consider a set-up for the run around car but for now the outlay costs EV car + solar + adequate home charging point don’t add up. That will change as energy prices keep going north and inevitably, government will intervene more to subsidise EV’s and solar (please note I don’t totally support taxpayer subsidies for EV’s, their infrastructure or solar). 

    Outside of all this, I have a level of faith technology will evolve enough in the next 5-10 years that will make what we take for granted now to be ‘old news’.
    Quoting cdvreede on 04 Apr 2019 09:14 PM
    solar not that good for overnite charging - especially in winter...
    Guess you live in one of those southern states
  • steelo Posts: 2508
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    15 Apr 2019 06:18 PM
    This is the only downside as I see it

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  • Ratbob Posts: 1061
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    15 Apr 2019 09:53 PM
    Quoting steelo on 15 Apr 2019 06:18 PM
    This is the only downside as I see it

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    Yeah man, she’s looking for good vibrations.
    Maybe HD will dial in some vibes for the babes.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11834
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    14 May 2019 02:37 PM
    Quoting JFE on 27 Mar 2019 09:26 AM
    The only way I’ve heard that ppl are making EV’s work is to use them for around town duty and charge them overnight from their home solar system. Got a mate that does that with his hybrid Mitsubishi. A bike could work for that but if the Livewire is circa $40,000 then you aren’t buying one to save $$!

    If/when I get to solar, I’d consider a set-up for the run around car but for now the outlay costs EV car + solar + adequate home charging point don’t add up. That will change as energy prices keep going north and inevitably, government will intervene more to subsidise EV’s and solar (please note I don’t totally support taxpayer subsidies for EV’s, their infrastructure or solar). 

    Outside of all this, I have a level of faith technology will evolve enough in the next 5-10 years that will make what we take for granted now to be ‘old news’.
    Quoting cdvreede on 04 Apr 2019 09:14 PM
    solar not that good for overnite charging - especially in winter...
    Had to come.....AMG AMP...

  • Ratbob Posts: 1061
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    14 May 2019 05:28 PM
    Quoting JFE on 27 Mar 2019 09:26 AM
    The only way I’ve heard that ppl are making EV’s work is to use them for around town duty and charge them overnight from their home solar system. Got a mate that does that with his hybrid Mitsubishi. A bike could work for that but if the Livewire is circa $40,000 then you aren’t buying one to save $$!

    If/when I get to solar, I’d consider a set-up for the run around car but for now the outlay costs EV car + solar + adequate home charging point don’t add up. That will change as energy prices keep going north and inevitably, government will intervene more to subsidise EV’s and solar (please note I don’t totally support taxpayer subsidies for EV’s, their infrastructure or solar). 

    Outside of all this, I have a level of faith technology will evolve enough in the next 5-10 years that will make what we take for granted now to be ‘old news’.
    Quoting cdvreede on 04 Apr 2019 09:14 PM
    solar not that good for overnite charging - especially in winter...
    Surprised there was no mention of Hydrogen power, it certainly makes filling up faster. 
  • paulybronco Posts: 11834
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    14 May 2019 08:03 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 05:28 PM
    Surprised there was no mention of Hydrogen power, it certainly makes filling up faster. 
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 05:35 PM
    The germans had a bit of a disaster using hydrogen in the past




    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 08:01 PM
    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.
    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car
  • Wideglider Posts: 698
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    14 May 2019 08:52 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 05:35 PM
    The germans had a bit of a disaster using hydrogen in the past




    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 08:01 PM
    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 08:03 PM
    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car
    Yeah, in NSW here & we require an annual road-worthy inspection. 
    I hate the idea of a nanny-state & government revenue grabbing, but gotta say, after seeing some of the shitbox/deathtrap cars in other states (many in Tasmania), I think inspections are a good thing. Nice to know when I'm stopped at the lights that the car approaching behind me probably has enough brakes to stop also.  
  • paulybronco Posts: 11834
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    14 May 2019 09:45 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 08:01 PM
    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 08:03 PM
    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car
    Quoting Wideglider on 14 May 2019 08:52 PMedited: 14 May 2019 08:53 PM
    Yeah, in NSW here & we require an annual road-worthy inspection. 
    I hate the idea of a nanny-state & government revenue grabbing, but gotta say, after seeing some of the shitbox/deathtrap cars in other states (many in Tasmania), I think inspections are a good thing. Nice to know when I'm stopped at the lights that the car approaching behind me probably has enough brakes to stop also.  
    I would be more concerned about the ice/pot/drug addicts , seems they are batting at 15% in QLD while driving impaired
  • Ratbob Posts: 1061
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    14 May 2019 09:58 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 05:35 PM
    The germans had a bit of a disaster using hydrogen in the past




    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 08:01 PM
    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 08:03 PM
    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car
    No regular roadworthy in SA Pauly but there might be something in place if you’re running LPG, I bloody hope so, seen some right rusty tanks about. 
  • Old Fatty Posts: 15
    Stock Poster Old Fatty
    14 May 2019 10:48 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 08:01 PM
    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 08:03 PM
    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car
    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 09:58 PM
    No regular roadworthy in SA Pauly but there might be something in place if you’re running LPG, I bloody hope so, seen some right rusty tanks about. 
    In Vic the LPG tank needs to be tested every 10 years, but it is up to the owner to organise it. I suppose if the RTA or cops pull you over they can check the date stamp, but nobody ever checked mine. 
  • Smokey61 Posts: 722
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    15 May 2019 11:19 AM
    Quoting Cview on 08 Jan 2019 10:14 AM
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    Quoting Cview on 08 Jan 2019 10:17 AM
    $29,700 us 110 mile range
    Will probably be close to $50K in Oz.

    On the other hand, for only $6300 on the road... The return of the Monkeybike!
  • Ratbob Posts: 1061
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    15 May 2019 08:50 PM
    Quoting Cview on 08 Jan 2019 10:14 AM
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    Quoting Cview on 08 Jan 2019 10:17 AM
    $29,700 us 110 mile range
    Quoting Smokey61 on 15 May 2019 11:19 AM
    Will probably be close to $50K in Oz.

    On the other hand, for only $6300 on the road... The return of the Monkeybike!
    Yeah man, thry were great fun as were those baby Honda trike things. These ones look a bit bigger, good thing too, my ass now has its own postcode.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11834
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    07 Jun 2019 07:46 AM
    Zero motorcycles have released their new electric bike......much cheaper, better range and superbike performance
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    Forum Legend paulybronco
    31 Jul 2019 05:34 PM



  • paulybronco Posts: 11834
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    15 Aug 2019 12:30 PM
    Current (no pun intended...) AMCN has a comprehensive ride etc of the new bike. As we all have said they came to the same conclusion us we all did.....too expensive and other than the badge offered nothing over the Zero competitor. Price at this stage $43k , in line with some CVO models.
  • Wideglider Posts: 698
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    15 Aug 2019 02:37 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 15 Aug 2019 12:30 PM
    Current (no pun intended...) AMCN has a comprehensive ride etc of the new bike. As we all have said they came to the same conclusion us we all did.....too expensive and other than the badge offered nothing over the Zero competitor. Price at this stage $43k , in line with some CVO models.
    Rode a Zero a few years back in Sydney - was fantastic. Last I heard was Zero had left Australia, is this still the case?
  • paulybronco Posts: 11834
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    15 Aug 2019 07:48 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 15 Aug 2019 12:30 PM
    Current (no pun intended...) AMCN has a comprehensive ride etc of the new bike. As we all have said they came to the same conclusion us we all did.....too expensive and other than the badge offered nothing over the Zero competitor. Price at this stage $43k , in line with some CVO models.
    Quoting Wideglider on 15 Aug 2019 02:37 PM
    Rode a Zero a few years back in Sydney - was fantastic. Last I heard was Zero had left Australia, is this still the case?
    That is correct. They now have a new product line up and once electric becomes excepted then sure they will be back
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