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  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 07:35 AM

    The germans had a bit of a disaster using hydrogen in the past




    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 10:01 AM

    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.

    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 10:03 AM

    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car

    Yeah, in NSW here & we require an annual road-worthy inspection. 
    I hate the idea of a nanny-state & government revenue grabbing, but gotta say, after seeing some of the shitbox/deathtrap cars in other states (many in Tasmania), I think inspections are a good thing. Nice to know when I'm stopped at the lights that the car approaching behind me probably has enough brakes to stop also.  
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 10:01 AM

    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.

    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 10:03 AM

    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car

    Quoting Wideglider on 14 May 2019 10:52 AMedited: 14 May 2019 10:53 AM

    Yeah, in NSW here & we require an annual road-worthy inspection. 
    I hate the idea of a nanny-state & government revenue grabbing, but gotta say, after seeing some of the shitbox/deathtrap cars in other states (many in Tasmania), I think inspections are a good thing. Nice to know when I'm stopped at the lights that the car approaching behind me probably has enough brakes to stop also.  

    I would be more concerned about the ice/pot/drug addicts , seems they are batting at 15% in QLD while driving impaired
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 07:35 AM

    The germans had a bit of a disaster using hydrogen in the past




    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 10:01 AM

    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.

    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 10:03 AM

    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car

    No regular roadworthy in SA Pauly but there might be something in place if you’re running LPG, I bloody hope so, seen some right rusty tanks about. 
  • Old Fatty
    Old Fatty
    4 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 10:01 AM

    Yeah it was a good burnout, can't imagine it being worse than one of those ageing LPG tanks hanging off the back of far too many cars.
    I reckon they'll start going off soon, can't even refill my BBQ bottle without an inquisition.

    Quoting paulybronco on 14 May 2019 10:03 AM

    Keep telling you folks your living in the wrong state....we dont even have to get a roadworthy every year for your bike/car

    Quoting Ratbob on 14 May 2019 11:58 AM

    No regular roadworthy in SA Pauly but there might be something in place if you’re running LPG, I bloody hope so, seen some right rusty tanks about. 

    In Vic the LPG tank needs to be tested every 10 years, but it is up to the owner to organise it. I suppose if the RTA or cops pull you over they can check the date stamp, but nobody ever checked mine. 
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Smokey61 on 15 May 2019 01:19 AM

    Will probably be close to $50K in Oz.

    On the other hand, for only $6300 on the road... The return of the Monkeybike!

    Yeah man, thry were great fun as were those baby Honda trike things. These ones look a bit bigger, good thing too, my ass now has its own postcode.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Zero motorcycles have released their new electric bike......much cheaper, better range and superbike performance
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago



  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Current (no pun intended...) AMCN has a comprehensive ride etc of the new bike. As we all have said they came to the same conclusion us we all did.....too expensive and other than the badge offered nothing over the Zero competitor. Price at this stage $43k , in line with some CVO models.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 15 Aug 2019 02:30 AM

    Current (no pun intended...) AMCN has a comprehensive ride etc of the new bike. As we all have said they came to the same conclusion us we all did.....too expensive and other than the badge offered nothing over the Zero competitor. Price at this stage $43k , in line with some CVO models.

    Rode a Zero a few years back in Sydney - was fantastic. Last I heard was Zero had left Australia, is this still the case?
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 15 Aug 2019 02:30 AM

    Current (no pun intended...) AMCN has a comprehensive ride etc of the new bike. As we all have said they came to the same conclusion us we all did.....too expensive and other than the badge offered nothing over the Zero competitor. Price at this stage $43k , in line with some CVO models.

    Quoting Wideglider on 15 Aug 2019 04:37 AM

    Rode a Zero a few years back in Sydney - was fantastic. Last I heard was Zero had left Australia, is this still the case?

    That is correct. They now have a new product line up and once electric becomes excepted then sure they will be back
  • JFE
    JFE
    4 years ago
    Just read Livewire production has been suspended as there was a problem with the bikes charging system. No word when a fix will be out. 
  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
    Is that current news Jaffee?
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 09:49 AM

    Is that current news Jaffee?

    Could be the current issue Steelo.
    I heard they were going to test ride the bike faraday but met with continued resistance and couldn’t get ohm.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 09:49 AM

    Is that current news Jaffee?

    Quoting Ratbob on 16 Oct 2019 10:19 AM

    Could be the current issue Steelo.

    I heard they were going to test ride the bike faraday but met with continued resistance and couldn’t get ohm.

    Thats shocking! They should AMP it up a bit, and Charge Harley
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    On a serious note.....Ewan and Charlie are doing "The long way up" on the livewire
  • Hoodeng
    Hoodeng
    4 years ago
    As i understand it the ones that have been released have to go back to the dealer to be charged.

    I see some guys look to this bike as being a potential commuter, this is a big bike by city commuter standards, in Europe city commuter bikes are light and nimble, on average a fleet of these things [anything up to 15-20] pinning it from the lights in Barcelona or Berlin, the majority would be around 125cc, Bergman's are the biggest, you do see a lot of sports bikes as well but the majority are screamers, there are also a lot of Piaggio MP3 trikes[these make a lot of sense]. There are literally thousands of commuters parked on the footpaths and special bike park lanes between the main traffic and pushbike lanes, the lines of parked bikes run for blocks.

    You should have a look at these places, you might think you are a hard case when cool dude blipping lights to lights, but in those places girls ride like Marquez .. And don't walk against a red light, a new arsehole is about to be cut on you by all and sundry.

    Cheers.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 16 Oct 2019 10:23 AM

    On a serious note.....Ewan and Charlie are doing "The long way up" on the livewire

    Yeah, I heard they were doing this. The bikes should be quite reliable really (less moving parts), I think the 'range anxiety' will mostly be a non-issue.
    Ewan will probably say (once or twice!) in his Scottish accent that the bike is 'fantastic'. And Charlie, well, the self-centered guy will continue to be irritating & live up to his surname.
  • Hoodeng
    Hoodeng
    4 years ago
    Is their route following a dealership network?

    Apparently the dealer charging system is the only one working properly on the bike.

  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Quoting Hoodeng on 16 Oct 2019 10:45 AM

    Is their route following a dealership network?

    Apparently the dealer charging system is the only one working properly on the bike.

    I'd say there's been a charging fire somewhere - think Samsung, Tesla etc.
    Obviously these issues eventually get sorted, it's just new products get rushed into marketing. 
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