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  • JFE Posts: 1745
    NSW
    Motor Head JFE
    16 Oct 2019 08:46 PM
    Just read Livewire production has been suspended as there was a problem with the bikes charging system. No word when a fix will be out. 
  • steelo Posts: 2577
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    16 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Is that current news Jaffee?
  • Ratbob Posts: 1096
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    16 Oct 2019 09:19 PM
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Is that current news Jaffee?
    Could be the current issue Steelo.
    I heard they were going to test ride the bike faraday but met with continued resistance and couldn’t get ohm.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    16 Oct 2019 09:22 PM
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Is that current news Jaffee?
    Quoting Ratbob on 16 Oct 2019 09:19 PM
    Could be the current issue Steelo.
    I heard they were going to test ride the bike faraday but met with continued resistance and couldn’t get ohm.
    Thats shocking! They should AMP it up a bit, and Charge Harley
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    16 Oct 2019 09:23 PM
    On a serious note.....Ewan and Charlie are doing "The long way up" on the livewire
  • Hoodeng Posts: 204
    Stock Poster Hoodeng
    16 Oct 2019 09:28 PM
    As i understand it the ones that have been released have to go back to the dealer to be charged.

    I see some guys look to this bike as being a potential commuter, this is a big bike by city commuter standards, in Europe city commuter bikes are light and nimble, on average a fleet of these things [anything up to 15-20] pinning it from the lights in Barcelona or Berlin, the majority would be around 125cc, Bergman's are the biggest, you do see a lot of sports bikes as well but the majority are screamers, there are also a lot of Piaggio MP3 trikes[these make a lot of sense]. There are literally thousands of commuters parked on the footpaths and special bike park lanes between the main traffic and pushbike lanes, the lines of parked bikes run for blocks.

    You should have a look at these places, you might think you are a hard case when cool dude blipping lights to lights, but in those places girls ride like Marquez .. And don't walk against a red light, a new arsehole is about to be cut on you by all and sundry.

    Cheers.
  • Wideglider Posts: 742
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    16 Oct 2019 09:36 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 16 Oct 2019 09:23 PM
    On a serious note.....Ewan and Charlie are doing "The long way up" on the livewire
    Yeah, I heard they were doing this. The bikes should be quite reliable really (less moving parts), I think the 'range anxiety' will mostly be a non-issue.
    Ewan will probably say (once or twice!) in his Scottish accent that the bike is 'fantastic'. And Charlie, well, the self-centered guy will continue to be irritating & live up to his surname.
  • Hoodeng Posts: 204
    Stock Poster Hoodeng
    16 Oct 2019 09:45 PM
    Is their route following a dealership network?

    Apparently the dealer charging system is the only one working properly on the bike.

  • Wideglider Posts: 742
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    16 Oct 2019 10:28 PM
    Quoting Hoodeng on 16 Oct 2019 09:45 PM
    Is their route following a dealership network?

    Apparently the dealer charging system is the only one working properly on the bike.

    I'd say there's been a charging fire somewhere - think Samsung, Tesla etc.
    Obviously these issues eventually get sorted, it's just new products get rushed into marketing. 
  • RossW Posts: 44
    Maitland, NSW
    Stock Poster RossW
    17 Oct 2019 11:55 AM
    Quoting paulybronco on 13 Aug 2014 11:13 AM

    Yes as much as i resist it, it is the way of the future.

    The price is pretty shocking. I think they're charging too much.
  • steelo Posts: 2577
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    17 Oct 2019 03:01 PM
    It’s a hard cell. I agree. Last in a long series. 
  • JFE Posts: 1745
    NSW
    Motor Head JFE
    17 Oct 2019 06:20 PM
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Is that current news Jaffee?
    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.

    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    17 Oct 2019 08:52 PM
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Is that current news Jaffee?
    Quoting JFE on 17 Oct 2019 06:20 PMedited: 17 Oct 2019 06:27 PM
    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.

    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.
    The way electricity prices are going it will cost more to charge it to run less than filling the bike
  • JFE Posts: 1745
    NSW
    Motor Head JFE
    18 Oct 2019 07:20 PM
    Quoting steelo on 16 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Is that current news Jaffee?
    Quoting JFE on 17 Oct 2019 06:20 PMedited: 17 Oct 2019 06:27 PM
    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.

    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.
    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Oct 2019 08:52 PM
    The way electricity prices are going it will cost more to charge it to run less than filling the bike
    Everything going up PB. I swear a proportion of the population wants us back living in caves!

    I think EV bikes have a place ... but this one to pricey for me, for what it is.

    Enjoy internal combustion while you can.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    18 Oct 2019 09:39 PM
    Quoting JFE on 17 Oct 2019 06:20 PMedited: 17 Oct 2019 06:27 PM
    Was in the Australian newspaper yesterday, so yes. A dealership charge goes for an hour or so and a home circa 10 hours pending what’s needed. Sounded like more than swapping a part out but guess new tech and all they need it right.

    Re: range, from what I read they chew more charge on the highway than city so will whether you like it or not be better suited to commuting. Interesting to see if more workplaces/carpark become charging friendly noting cost and different connectors per brands.
    Quoting paulybronco on 17 Oct 2019 08:52 PM
    The way electricity prices are going it will cost more to charge it to run less than filling the bike
    Quoting JFE on 18 Oct 2019 07:20 PM
    Everything going up PB. I swear a proportion of the population wants us back living in caves!

    I think EV bikes have a place ... but this one to pricey for me, for what it is.

    Enjoy internal combustion while you can.
    Have to agree you aint seeing my 40k going on one of these
  • Ferrett62 Posts: 327
    Canberra
    Stage 1 Poster Ferrett62
    19 Oct 2019 07:07 AM
    Just read production and delivery has started again, they say the fault was limited to a single unit and owners can charge them normally. 
  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    27 Oct 2019 11:47 PM

    Well just 2 weeks ago I saw my first Livewire in the metal and SAT ON IT AND RODE IT !

    Not in Australia , but in the West of Scotland while visiting my old mother.

    It was "static" on a rolling road , at a West Coast HD display tent at the Scottish boat show.

    ( Porsche/Audi etc etc blah blah all had their shit there too !)

    Bike in question had a Km/H speedo readout , the sales girl was quite at length to point that out.

    You had to accelerate in a certain manner due to the inadiquacies of the rolling road I presume.

    You could feel the "engine braking" as it "recharged" on decel.

    The bike was not "registered" and was I presume Euro spec ( the Km/H speed readout !)

    It was and had been touring the European dealers.

    30,000 pounds sterling ( close to $60,000 Aussie dollars !!) the male salesman reckoned. ( No fucking way !)

    The dolly bird biker sales bird also took some video of me on my phone , but I can't get video to the forum.

    It is QUIET , the rolling road was making all the racket and vibration. It was sitting on a bed of gravel in what was otherwise a boatyard at a rivermouth.

    HD Forums Australia - Livewire.jpg

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2703
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    29 Oct 2019 09:05 AM
    Well just thought I would mention, they cost nothing to run right now in NSW. as NRMA EV recharge stations are free to use. but if it gets popular they will start charging $ to charge em up. but NRMA have the recharging all down the coast & probably up the coast and inland too.
  • JFE Posts: 1745
    NSW
    Motor Head JFE
    29 Oct 2019 07:10 PM
    ...if the bike was circa $20g the NRMA stations would help make it a bargain! 

    I don’t want to hijack the thread on another issue but I’d rather NRMA come up with some decent road safety initiatives for the $10m plus they spent on charging stations for a minority of members and others.

    How about some NRMA sponsored driver reviver vans on public and school holidays?
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