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  • DocGreen Posts: 193
    Illawarra NSW
    Stock Poster DocGreen
    29 Dec 2017 05:08 PM
    Just had 1st decent ride after fitting new SE high flow filter (new round style filter #29400355) covered with a Fatbob a/c cover and loaded stage 1 map with Super Tuner Pro - very nice. Lovely induction roar when giving it some :) Was looking at the ventilator #29400299 but wanted more weather protection.
    1st experience with EITMS, any thoughts on this -good/bad. Comes activated in stage 1 calibration.
    Haven't done any smart tunes yet, plan to later on but bike feels good all over. Overall, impressed and think the Fatbob cover suits the M8 engine well.
    Took advice of Fikmik and Hilly here- that is fitted a/c and stage 1 calibration before doing pipes, more time to decide/listen to mufflers.
    cheers
    DocGreen
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  • DocGreen Posts: 193
    Illawarra NSW
    Stock Poster DocGreen
    30 Dec 2017 07:53 AM
    Posted by chinashop bull on 29 Dec 2017 06:50 PM
    Posted by DocGreen on 29 Dec 2017 05:08 PM

    Took advice of Fikmik and Hilly here- that is fitted a/c and stage 1 calibration before doing pipes, more time to decide/listen to mufflers.

     

    Pipes and mufflers change tone significantly over time and state of tune.  A mate had V&H powerduals and 4 1/2" mufflers on a 2015 CVO.  Sounded good but it wasn't until he went Stg IV that it sounded awesome.  New systems are always quieter than systems with some mile on them too.

     cheers China, in no rush to do the pipes now as I really want to hear some more with my own ears. Don't want really loud, toned down the old Fatboy with some 2nd hand SE pipes with the torque chamber 2-1-2 and they were the perfect pipe IMO, got my low end torque back, sounded good when twisting the throttle and could hardy hear them when cruising.

    DocGreen

  • JamesJ Posts: 259
    Stage 1 Poster JamesJ
    11 Apr 2018 12:59 PM
    Posted by HDnos6 on 11 Apr 2018 12:27 PM
    Pulled into dealership on my twincam 17 breakout & testrode the 18 with M8 ,returned to dealership hating it,when asked why I said it felt like a Honda 500 naked bike & hated it,so took a tourer for a ride loved it brought one same day.at first service the 18 breakout 114 demo had pipes fitted for sound so I took that for few hours & loved it like my 17 simply because I'd gotten used to the M8 & sound was there again.my 18 roadglides got a full 114 stage 4 kit with full rinehart exhaust,has that thump with bit of jump but that's it....you will get used to it myself around 3000kms & few months but wont forget the twincam engine noise & feel nor old frames & vibrations.Ive read post on other sites also told by mechanics the M8 motor etc is that well balanced machined sorted nothing will create that feel we all remember.apparently when harley asked public what was wanted we said QUIETER engine noise & bikes with less weight vibration better balanced (NEVER MET ANYBODY YET) but that's harleys excuse....I think of it similar to an old holden red 308 HK to an LS3 chev VF,lightweight mass produced hitech DIFFERENT METALS.....sure miss that shovel sound & wideglide feel myself but then days are long gone & the next step to ELECTRIC with NO SOUND NO FEEL NO NOTHING ??

     I have the 117 stage 4

    It now has the more traditional sound

    previously it sounded less lumpy,more refined and japanese.

    Having said that my bike is in the shop under warranty as of yesterday because the roller bearings for the cam failed and dumped debris in the motor??

    i am the same bloke who was given a completely new bike after 1000kms when my engine failed...(yep 2 CVO Ultras!)

    My first Harley experience has been 15 months 2 engine failures in 33000 kms but I refuse to give up on HD yet... am I mad or is this the hook that the bike with character has?? 

    I still love  my bike and want it back

  • paulybronco Posts: 9605
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    11 Apr 2018 01:52 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 12:59 PM
    Posted by HDnos6 on 11 Apr 2018 12:27 PM
    Pulled into dealership on my twincam 17 breakout & testrode the 18 with M8 ,returned to dealership hating it,when asked why I said it felt like a Honda 500 naked bike & hated it,so took a tourer for a ride loved it brought one same day.at first service the 18 breakout 114 demo had pipes fitted for sound so I took that for few hours & loved it like my 17 simply because I'd gotten used to the M8 & sound was there again.my 18 roadglides got a full 114 stage 4 kit with full rinehart exhaust,has that thump with bit of jump but that's it....you will get used to it myself around 3000kms & few months but wont forget the twincam engine noise & feel nor old frames & vibrations.Ive read post on other sites also told by mechanics the M8 motor etc is that well balanced machined sorted nothing will create that feel we all remember.apparently when harley asked public what was wanted we said QUIETER engine noise & bikes with less weight vibration better balanced (NEVER MET ANYBODY YET) but that's harleys excuse....I think of it similar to an old holden red 308 HK to an LS3 chev VF,lightweight mass produced hitech DIFFERENT METALS.....sure miss that shovel sound & wideglide feel myself but then days are long gone & the next step to ELECTRIC with NO SOUND NO FEEL NO NOTHING ??

     I have the 117 stage 4

    It now has the more traditional sound

    previously it sounded less lumpy,more refined and japanese.

    Having said that my bike is in the shop under warranty as of yesterday because the roller bearings for the cam failed and dumped debris in the motor??

    i am the same bloke who was given a completely new bike after 1000kms when my engine failed...(yep 2 CVO Ultras!)

    My first Harley experience has been 15 months 2 engine failures in 33000 kms but I refuse to give up on HD yet... am I mad or is this the hook that the bike with character has?? 

    I still love  my bike and want it back

     James hear you with this one, had my fair share of issues with my street glide bought it new as well. Stick with it they kinda grow on you

  • JR888 Posts: 96
    Sunshine Coast
    Stock Poster JR888
    11 Apr 2018 04:52 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 12:59 PM
    Posted by HDnos6 on 11 Apr 2018 12:27 PM
    Pulled into dealership on my twincam 17 breakout & testrode the 18 with M8 ,returned to dealership hating it,when asked why I said it felt like a Honda 500 naked bike & hated it,so took a tourer for a ride loved it brought one same day.at first service the 18 breakout 114 demo had pipes fitted for sound so I took that for few hours & loved it like my 17 simply because I'd gotten used to the M8 & sound was there again.my 18 roadglides got a full 114 stage 4 kit with full rinehart exhaust,has that thump with bit of jump but that's it....you will get used to it myself around 3000kms & few months but wont forget the twincam engine noise & feel nor old frames & vibrations.Ive read post on other sites also told by mechanics the M8 motor etc is that well balanced machined sorted nothing will create that feel we all remember.apparently when harley asked public what was wanted we said QUIETER engine noise & bikes with less weight vibration better balanced (NEVER MET ANYBODY YET) but that's harleys excuse....I think of it similar to an old holden red 308 HK to an LS3 chev VF,lightweight mass produced hitech DIFFERENT METALS.....sure miss that shovel sound & wideglide feel myself but then days are long gone & the next step to ELECTRIC with NO SOUND NO FEEL NO NOTHING ??

     I have the 117 stage 4

    It now has the more traditional sound

    previously it sounded less lumpy,more refined and japanese.

    Having said that my bike is in the shop under warranty as of yesterday because the roller bearings for the cam failed and dumped debris in the motor??

    i am the same bloke who was given a completely new bike after 1000kms when my engine failed...(yep 2 CVO Ultras!)

    My first Harley experience has been 15 months 2 engine failures in 33000 kms but I refuse to give up on HD yet... am I mad or is this the hook that the bike with character has?? 

    I still love  my bike and want it back

     Interesting, they told me you would never get a new bike out of Harley yet here you are with a new bike and I got mine replaced Christmas time. Like you however, I love my new bike and as long as it doesn't develop the same problem I am happy.

  • JR888 Posts: 96
    Sunshine Coast
    Stock Poster JR888
    11 Apr 2018 05:54 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 05:38 PM
    Posted by JR888 on 11 Apr 2018 04:52 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 12:59 PM
    Posted by HDnos6 on 11 Apr 2018 12:27 PM
    Pulled into dealership on my twincam 17 breakout & testrode the 18 with M8 ,returned to dealership hating it,when asked why I said it felt like a Honda 500 naked bike & hated it,so took a tourer for a ride loved it brought one same day.at first service the 18 breakout 114 demo had pipes fitted for sound so I took that for few hours & loved it like my 17 simply because I'd gotten used to the M8 & sound was there again.my 18 roadglides got a full 114 stage 4 kit with full rinehart exhaust,has that thump with bit of jump but that's it....you will get used to it myself around 3000kms & few months but wont forget the twincam engine noise & feel nor old frames & vibrations.Ive read post on other sites also told by mechanics the M8 motor etc is that well balanced machined sorted nothing will create that feel we all remember.apparently when harley asked public what was wanted we said QUIETER engine noise & bikes with less weight vibration better balanced (NEVER MET ANYBODY YET) but that's harleys excuse....I think of it similar to an old holden red 308 HK to an LS3 chev VF,lightweight mass produced hitech DIFFERENT METALS.....sure miss that shovel sound & wideglide feel myself but then days are long gone & the next step to ELECTRIC with NO SOUND NO FEEL NO NOTHING ??

     I have the 117 stage 4

    It now has the more traditional sound

    previously it sounded less lumpy,more refined and japanese.

    Having said that my bike is in the shop under warranty as of yesterday because the roller bearings for the cam failed and dumped debris in the motor??

    i am the same bloke who was given a completely new bike after 1000kms when my engine failed...(yep 2 CVO Ultras!)

    My first Harley experience has been 15 months 2 engine failures in 33000 kms but I refuse to give up on HD yet... am I mad or is this the hook that the bike with character has?? 

    I still love  my bike and want it back

     Interesting, they told me you would never get a new bike out of Harley yet here you are with a new bike and I got mine replaced Christmas time. Like you however, I love my new bike and as long as it doesn't develop the same problem I am happy.

     Harley USA wanted to simply replace the engine-the dealer took it upon himself to buy my bike from me  and give ma a new one in return at no cost (Harley Heaven melbourne can't be faulted for their approach to customer service thus far).

    The motor co. have a "USA" approach to customers- treat 'em like shit and see if they complain! I am still waiting for what HD will do about my instrument gauges that have water stains on the inside of the glass( of course these are the second set of gauges that were replaced with the same issue) I don't want to say it but is the quality really top notch?

     I'm hearing you. My engine top end was re-built twice before I managed to get them to replace the bike and the finish on the new bike leave a bit to be desired but still I am happy with the bike overall, so far at least.

  • JamesJ Posts: 259
    Stage 1 Poster JamesJ
    14 Apr 2018 12:45 PM
    Posted by JR888 on 11 Apr 2018 05:54 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 05:38 PM
    Posted by JR888 on 11 Apr 2018 04:52 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 12:59 PM
    Posted by HDnos6 on 11 Apr 2018 12:27 PM
    Pulled into dealership on my twincam 17 breakout & testrode the 18 with M8 ,returned to dealership hating it,when asked why I said it felt like a Honda 500 naked bike & hated it,so took a tourer for a ride loved it brought one same day.at first service the 18 breakout 114 demo had pipes fitted for sound so I took that for few hours & loved it like my 17 simply because I'd gotten used to the M8 & sound was there again.my 18 roadglides got a full 114 stage 4 kit with full rinehart exhaust,has that thump with bit of jump but that's it....you will get used to it myself around 3000kms & few months but wont forget the twincam engine noise & feel nor old frames & vibrations.Ive read post on other sites also told by mechanics the M8 motor etc is that well balanced machined sorted nothing will create that feel we all remember.apparently when harley asked public what was wanted we said QUIETER engine noise & bikes with less weight vibration better balanced (NEVER MET ANYBODY YET) but that's harleys excuse....I think of it similar to an old holden red 308 HK to an LS3 chev VF,lightweight mass produced hitech DIFFERENT METALS.....sure miss that shovel sound & wideglide feel myself but then days are long gone & the next step to ELECTRIC with NO SOUND NO FEEL NO NOTHING ??

     I have the 117 stage 4

    It now has the more traditional sound

    previously it sounded less lumpy,more refined and japanese.

    Having said that my bike is in the shop under warranty as of yesterday because the roller bearings for the cam failed and dumped debris in the motor??

    i am the same bloke who was given a completely new bike after 1000kms when my engine failed...(yep 2 CVO Ultras!)

    My first Harley experience has been 15 months 2 engine failures in 33000 kms but I refuse to give up on HD yet... am I mad or is this the hook that the bike with character has?? 

    I still love  my bike and want it back

     Interesting, they told me you would never get a new bike out of Harley yet here you are with a new bike and I got mine replaced Christmas time. Like you however, I love my new bike and as long as it doesn't develop the same problem I am happy.

     Harley USA wanted to simply replace the engine-the dealer took it upon himself to buy my bike from me  and give ma a new one in return at no cost (Harley Heaven melbourne can't be faulted for their approach to customer service thus far).

    The motor co. have a "USA" approach to customers- treat 'em like shit and see if they complain! I am still waiting for what HD will do about my instrument gauges that have water stains on the inside of the glass( of course these are the second set of gauges that were replaced with the same issue) I don't want to say it but is the quality really top notch?

     I'm hearing you. My engine top end was re-built twice before I managed to get them to replace the bike and the finish on the new bike leave a bit to be desired but still I am happy with the bike overall, so far at least.

     Dealer's requested a new engine

    I find out my plight on Monday...

  • Baloffski Posts: 999
    Victoria
    Performance Poster Baloffski
    14 Apr 2018 01:27 PM
    James, keep us in the loop mate. 
    We all interested in your predicament, and maybe assist in a little way, by use of the keyboard.
  • JamesJ Posts: 259
    Stage 1 Poster JamesJ
    14 Apr 2018 09:09 PM
    Posted by Baloffski on 14 Apr 2018 01:27 PM
    James, keep us in the loop mate. 
    We all interested in your predicament, and maybe assist in a little way, by use of the keyboard.

     will do


  • JamesJ Posts: 259
    Stage 1 Poster JamesJ
    03 May 2018 06:59 PM
    Posted by Baloffski on 14 Apr 2018 01:27 PM
    James, keep us in the loop mate. 
    We all interested in your predicament, and maybe assist in a little way, by use of the keyboard.

     By way of update...My bike's still in the shop and i still have no update!

  • paulybronco Posts: 9605
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    03 May 2018 07:09 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 03 May 2018 06:59 PM
    Posted by Baloffski on 14 Apr 2018 01:27 PM
    James, keep us in the loop mate. 
    We all interested in your predicament, and maybe assist in a little way, by use of the keyboard.

     By way of update...My bike's still in the shop and i still have no update!

     Thats Shit, chin up mate

  • hithere Posts: 57
    Stock Poster hithere
    25 May 2018 11:19 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 05:38 PM

    Harley USA wanted to simply replace the engine-the dealer took it upon himself to buy my bike from me  and give ma a new one in return at no cost (Harley Heaven melbourne can't be faulted for their approach to customer service thus far).

     This story made me think about buying from Harley-Heaven Melbourne.  Thanks for sharing your story.  Hope you get all your issues sorted.

  • JamesJ Posts: 259
    Stage 1 Poster JamesJ
    29 May 2018 07:18 PM
    Quoting hithere on 25 May 2018 11:19 PM
    Posted by JamesJ on 11 Apr 2018 05:38 PM

    Harley USA wanted to simply replace the engine-the dealer took it upon himself to buy my bike from me  and give ma a new one in return at no cost (Harley Heaven melbourne can't be faulted for their approach to customer service thus far).

     This story made me think about buying from Harley-Heaven Melbourne.  Thanks for sharing your story.  Hope you get all your issues sorted.


    Thanks to Harley Heaven Melbourne I have seen my new black fade 2018 cvo Ultra in the flesh.
    It is in my name and I pick it up this Saturday with a full Reinhart system...pictures to follow :-))
  • Proffesor Posts: 5
    Stock Poster Proffesor
    02 Jun 2018 03:11 PM
    My MY17 Road King with 12000 kms has just gone into the shop for a new motor due to sumping, scorred cylinder walls on the back cylinder and 200 ml of oil in the crankcase.
    Excellent service from Frasers Wollongong, have given me a 2018 Street Glide to use while i wait for the king to get its new heart.
  • dyna13 Posts: 45
    Stock Poster dyna13
    02 Jun 2018 06:04 PM
    18 M8 road king has started a new habit. Usually sits In mid 800s at idle when warm but last 3 good rides goes down to 800rpm then after a about 15/20 secs picks up idle to around 1000 by itself. She’s got 14000km and is stock besides V&H slip ons. Any thoughts? Only happening after a descent ride and when bike is at full temp not when just going quick local rides.
  • dyna13 Posts: 45
    Stock Poster dyna13
    02 Jun 2018 07:40 PM
    Could it be rear cylinder shut out for heat management? The idle just doesn’t sound right which made me think this, it never use to do this just started, is it part of EITMS system 
     
  • dyna13 Posts: 45
    Stock Poster dyna13
    02 Jun 2018 07:47 PM
    Aswering my own questions here. Here’s i bit of info i found about EITMS on American site.

    .......
    The EITMS can be enabled by the owner and it is completely up to you if you want it on or not. 


    All you have to do is roll the throttle the opposite direction (forward) and hold it. You will see your cruise control light blink either amber or green. Amber means it is disengaged and green means it is engaged. You can also verify by pushing the "i" button on your right control.
     .........


    Mine was on. I adjusted my throttle grip the other day and must have turned it on, explains the reason it was happening at temp.
  • gidgi Posts: 627
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    03 Jun 2018 07:49 AM
    Quoting Proffesor on 02 Jun 2018 03:11 PM
    My MY17 Road King with 12000 kms has just gone into the shop for a new motor due to sumping, scorred cylinder walls on the back cylinder and 200 ml of oil in the crankcase.
    Excellent service from Frasers Wollongong, have given me a 2018 Street Glide to use while i wait for the king to get its new heart.
    Another sumping issue on M8 jeezuz seems to be a common issue that sukz, Good to know that Frasers are looking after you is your Ride stock ? & only 12k 
  • Proffesor Posts: 5
    Stock Poster Proffesor
    08 Jun 2018 10:26 PM
    Quoting Proffesor on 02 Jun 2018 03:11 PM
    My MY17 Road King with 12000 kms has just gone into the shop for a new motor due to sumping, scorred cylinder walls on the back cylinder and 200 ml of oil in the crankcase.
    Excellent service from Frasers Wollongong, have given me a 2018 Street Glide to use while i wait for the king to get its new heart.
    Quoting gidgi on 03 Jun 2018 07:49 AM
    Another sumping issue on M8 jeezuz seems to be a common issue that sukz, Good to know that Frasers are looking after you is your Ride stock ? & only 12k 
    Stage 1 only, fitted by frasers, my kms have mainly been all highway, tassie rally 4000 kms, qld rally 2017 3500 kms, brighter days 2018 2500 kms
  • JR888 Posts: 96
    Sunshine Coast
    Stock Poster JR888
    09 Jun 2018 02:17 PM
    Quoting Proffesor on 02 Jun 2018 03:11 PM
    My MY17 Road King with 12000 kms has just gone into the shop for a new motor due to sumping, scorred cylinder walls on the back cylinder and 200 ml of oil in the crankcase.
    Excellent service from Frasers Wollongong, have given me a 2018 Street Glide to use while i wait for the king to get its new heart.
    Quoting gidgi on 03 Jun 2018 07:49 AM
    Another sumping issue on M8 jeezuz seems to be a common issue that sukz, Good to know that Frasers are looking after you is your Ride stock ? & only 12k 
    Quoting Proffesor on 08 Jun 2018 10:26 PM
    Stage 1 only, fitted by frasers, my kms have mainly been all highway, tassie rally 4000 kms, qld rally 2017 3500 kms, brighter days 2018 2500 kms
    Very interesting . . . can I ask what air cleaner you have?
    My reason for asking is that I was told sumping only occurred on stage IV and V motors and that my problem was the stage 1 air cleaner.
    The bike was replaced after a bit of too-ing and fro-ing but I would be interested to know which cleaner you have. Thankfully my replacement has been running perfect and I am very happy with it now at just over 15,000k.
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