Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your thoughts and might I say from the outset this was not an attempt to fracture or divide riders based on model owned. Nor was it to make an assertion that a 'Sydney Sporty Subgroup' had been started. My initial thread, if it was not as clear as it could have been and I apologise for that, was to seek interest to determine if one would be worth setting up.
I agree with you that a 'specific rider group' does not promote an entirely inclusive experience for all bike owners to participate in. However, it does make for a better riding experience for the individual rider within that specific rider group aka 'Quality over Quantity'. I am not saying riders should be segregated into many different groups, I am merely saying that I, and I am sure other riders would like to get the greatest level of satisfaction out of the group rides they participate in.
I have already been on a number of larger group rides, which were 'open to all bikes' and have found riding with larger open bike groups is whilst 'ideal in theory', in its true practical sense is not ideal in its entirety. Here in my own experience is why;
Firstly, Fuel Management - a majority of the sportster bikes as we know have smaller fuel tanks, this means more stops for more fuel. It has been at times an inconvenience to other riders with larger tanks to wait given most if not all don't need to refuel. In two instances the riders group simply had ridden off without the thought of waiting back for the smaller tank bikes causing the group to disband.
Secondly, Displacement - all sporters lack the power of the larger heavier bikes (1690's & 1801's). As a result and this was the case in the majority of instances, 'where there is open road the throttle is hammer down'. i.e bigger bikes speeding off into the distance to where one either can't keep up and/or there is no slowing down and thus the group is broken up and the ride quickly becomes a non collective one.
Thirdly, Rider Ability - I make note here, from the riders I have personally spoken with that owned 500's / 883's and 1200's they tended to be the riding level of beginner to intermediate with some advanced riders. I personally would say I am intermediate heading to advanced but by no means expert or veteran. However, in the last three group rides the larger bikes in all instances were driven by advanced, expert or veteran category riders given the bikes are bigger, more powerful and the riders tended to be more assertive on the road.
Fourth and finally, Melbourne Sporty Group - after speaking with another member of this forum regarding a Melbourne Sporty Group (established a month or so ago) it was a suggestion to collaborate with like minded people who have the same bikes here in Sydney to potentially establish the same concept if the rider numbers made it viable to do so.
By this token and with my experience in HRM I am not at all placing any riders in a specific box or labelling them better or less able, irrespective of their bike of choice. The intention was to reach out and gather interest for the 'potential establishment' of a Sydney specific group who would be a more 'appropriate riding fit'. An ideal fit in riding power, riding ability, regularity of fuel stops or even in the most simplest of terms, whether that be a GTG to discuss mods/upgrades/aesthetics given the likeness for riding a similar/same bike.