Advice on 1st HD

  • Shadow9
    Shadow9
    6 years ago
    Hi.
    I'm middle aged and 5'8 high. I have a Japanese cruiser and would like to trade in on a HD.

    My problem is that I have an illness that has caused my muscles to weaken and so cant manouvre  my cruiser.

    I didnt even think of HD always thinking they were big heavy bikes.

    So just some advice from owners (prefer that to the sales guys). 
    I'm divided between:

    1200 custom
    883 Superlow.
    Ruled out the 48 as was too top heavy for me. Both bikes I'm looking at have higher seats, but maybe can find a low profile seat to drop the height.

    Anyway having tested the 883 and 1200 I am undecided whether to stick to the 883 as an around the town bike (long distance is no more for me) or go for the 1200 just incase I get the urge to do some short motorway riding or general city overtaking.
    I found the 883 OK but not amazing.

    I would appreciate any opinions and with my physical condition, is HD the right choice ? Mind you be nice to own a HD.

    Thanks
  • Kingchops
    Kingchops
    6 years ago
    There isn't much difference in weight with the Sportster range.  The difference between the lightest and heaviest is only around 12kg.  The Superlow may feel a bit better because of the low height, but it's still roughly the same weight as the others.  I'd go for a 1200, I've had both and the 1200 is much better.  Both the 883 and 1200 are the same weight, so a 36% increase in cubes make a big difference.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    Don't rule out the street bob and dyna low rider either until you sit on them 
  • LOFTYBOB
    LOFTYBOB
    6 years ago
    Buy the 883 and then put a 1200 kit in it. With the shorter gearing of the 883, you'll end up with a faster accelerating bike than if you had just purchased the 1200 from stock.
  • AlHD48
    AlHD48
    6 years ago
    brother if I was you and money allowed I would get a low rider s 
    however if you are looking for a sportster I would go a 1200 , saves time and effort on a 883 coversion to a 1200 however if you want a 883 got a hammer performance 1275 kit 
  • mickle
    mickle
    6 years ago
    Resale will be way better on the 1200.
  • Superlow 11
    Superlow 11
    6 years ago
    I've got a superlow for sale 
    $10000 ono 
  • Shadow9
    Shadow9
    6 years ago
    Guys thanks for the replies, really appreciate the feedback from owners and getting a balanced view.
    I've just been to a HD dealer and unfortunately there are no more 2017 1200 customs left. So their advice is October when the 2018 bikes start coming into the dealerships.

    What you guys pointed out about the weight of the 883 and 1200 being almost the same but the 36% power increase was something I didnt think about. 

    Did ask the dealer about heel toe shifter for the 1200 custom but might need to go aftermarket. Thats fine, but yeah sportsters seem the lightest of the bunch so will need to stick to this line.
  • ghostwolf59
    ghostwolf59
    6 years ago
    Get something older you can work on/with yourself without being left sucked dry out of pocket where you have to rely on substandard workshops keeping monkeys that know shit and only rely on what the 'puter tells them - most new bikes require a hell of lot of high tech you dont need if you get some old stuff - also a hell more fun doing it up yourself

  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    6 years ago
    well I've had more new Harley's than used, but I'm old school so prefer my bikes carb and as I know Harley's more than I know anything else. I've owned more big twins and love them but as the sporty gear driven cam's . I chose to look for an 03 sporty. and found one in good condition. its a 1200 and the 03 still have trap door to gear box so only need to take primary off clutch off four bolts out and gear box comes out , for easy to work on if need to. new sporty's have to remove compleat motor pull motor apart just to get at gear box. another reason I chose 03 or older was they still use the timken tapered crank drive bearing , thats a lot stronger. but main reason I'm telling you is, the 03 and earlier are 30kg plus lighter . I got mine about 3 months back and have just ridden it covered 10,000k in those three months replaced one tyre and gave it a few oil changes thats it, also have rejetted carb. this model sporty handle better too. they used to race them in roaring sporty's back in the 90's hd sponsored race series. only thing is you need to be a Harley man as no soft touches on these they have the motor rigid mounted to frame so you feel what a Harley run's like. the new ones rubber mounted motor to dampen the feel just the swingarm  mounted in cases so feel bit of flex riding hard. both good later have more efficient chamber efi that you can tune to perfection. but still the same old prehistoric male female rods and 45 degree firing order. but as your only going to do short rides if you could find a good 1993 to 03 , you could get a test ride on and its un molested . go for it.
  • Shadow9
    Shadow9
    6 years ago
    Hi Fellas.
    Thanks again for the replies. 

    As I said I have an illness (wont bore you with the details) and I just want something I can ride. Would have kept my metric but its just too heavy for me now in my condition.

    So yeah an older bike might be OK but not really in a condition to be servicing it or repairing it.

    I think I've decided on the 883 Superlow. I think the 883 has enough grunt for the suburbs and short like 30 minute freeway jumps if I feel up to it. I know its no speedster  and some think its a chicks bike but in my case ticks all the boxes. And from what I've read you can squeeze a little more power with a stage 1 thing and the bike has lots of aftermarket bits.

    Also wont break the bank to get into a Harley.
  • TC883
    TC883
    6 years ago
    Hey Shadow, welcome to the forum mate. I think the 883 super low with stage 1 will suit you fine mate. I bought my Iron 883 new in 2010. Many would say it is a "beginner" Harley, but I have never needed more. I use it around town and on the occasional highway blast (about 1 1/4 hours to work) and it works absolutely fine. I am about 5'7" in the old money and only weight 70kg, which helps with power to weight. Every time I sit reading on forums like this or watch YouTube videos, I hanker for a big twin. The 2017 Low Rider S would be the one. Then I ride my bike and think "What more do I need?". Turns out the only thing I really need is more time to ride, not a new bike!
    One other thing to consider if seat height is an issue is that there are MANY after market rear shocks available for the sportster in shorter lengths. I have 11 inch ones from a mob in Melbourne (Bad Boy Bobbers) they are a 'copy' of the burly brand shocks but I reckon they are from the same factory, and just not branded. They look and work exactly the same as the Burly brand ones. Cost me $220 delivered, but I digress. The point is you can get the seat nice and low if you need to with shocks rather than with a seat. Anyway, good luck and enjoy. TC
  • Shadow9
    Shadow9
    6 years ago
    Thanks guys for all the great advice. I read the posts a few times and did a fair bit of thinking.

    Honestly the perfect bike for me would have been the Scout, but with so many problems, I flicked it.
    Anyway, you only live once, so today I put a deposit on a 1200 sportster custom with a very low seat as an extra. The savings on rego and CTP made it more attractive and after weighing up everything it seemed a better package than the superlow (wish that was a 1200).

    Pretty happy with the decision I'll ride it for as long as I can then offload it at some point if I can no longer ride. Honestly, me (and I reckon heaps of others) always dream of a HD. So atm the bank owns the bike and I'll just keep paying it off over the next few years.

    Anyway, again thanks gentlemen for the advice and help, really appreciated.

    Now I can stop all the Youtubing and research and think about riding where and when I can. And yeah I spoiled myself today but tell you it really lifted my spirits. 

    Nice folk here so hope to chat with some of you about all things Sportster later.

    Cheers
  • skirtster
    skirtster
    6 years ago
    congratulations on buying you bike, you will be happy with it.
  • shadowarrior
    shadowarrior
    6 years ago
    Aha welcome to the Sporty Custom family mate :)
  • Bigley08
    Bigley08
    6 years ago
    Well done, post a pic when ya pick up your ride. I have the 08' custom and love it. Don't be afraid to tell about your condition when you feel comfortable, peeps here might be able to help with advice on how to keep you riding longer. Cheers