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  • Grease Monkey Posts: 697
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    01 Sep 2019 08:25 AM
    Do it wideglide, it's the bomb
  • ralphski Posts: 1046
    NE Foothills, ADELAIDE
    Performance Poster ralphski
    01 Sep 2019 03:03 PM
    fitted mine Sat
    a quick 15 minute ride noticed 1st -2nd was a little jerky, and slight gearbox noise ( about 2500-3500 )
    2nd-3rd, 3rd-4th, 4th-5th ( 2500-3500 ) seem ok
    all with default settings.
    just about to try sensor threshold 50 %, cut-off delay 15 m/s, first 3 rpm ranges all 85ms, next 6 rpm ranges 90 m/s
    simple to fit up, and so far very enjoyable.
    it'll take time to sort out.
    Oh, it's fitted to my Springer, 132 HP 122 TQ, 110 B motor
    Any hints/info regarding set-up would be great.
    thanks Mike ( great to deal with )


  • Grease Monkey Posts: 697
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    01 Sep 2019 04:37 PM
    Ralphski without getting into specific numbers as I believe they will be different for everyone this how I've come to see it with help on here.
    If it's snatchy you are either eating up your delay time or taking longer to change gear than you realise, lowering the sensitivity could worsen the former if that's why, could even be a bit of both.

    If it dives a little you have the cut-out time a bit long, nothing wrong with going out to this point and working back.

    Make sure your sensitivity is 100%, check that after a couple of runs as mine dropped off a bit, not much but it's all happening really fast and anything that changes has an effect, you can sort 1st to 2nd, it's do-able.
  • Wideglider Posts: 655
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    01 Sep 2019 07:09 PM
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 01 Sep 2019 08:25 AM
    Do it wideglide, it's the bomb
    I'll let you know how I get on & what works for me - a bit a trial & error with fine tuning I'm sure, half the fun anyway. 
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2619
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    01 Sep 2019 08:05 PM
    stock bikes, will shift 1st 2nd quick & easy. Bikes making Bulk Torque will have a lot of pressure on the gears & will benefit from back cut gears. it's always been that way with high performance Harleys trying to shift really quick. the more HP & TQ the harder to shift quick under full power.
  • tussuck Posts: 1955
    Melbourne
    Motor Head tussuck
    01 Sep 2019 08:44 PM
    Quoting ralphski on 01 Sep 2019 03:03 PM
    fitted mine Sat
    a quick 15 minute ride noticed 1st -2nd was a little jerky, and slight gearbox noise ( about 2500-3500 )
    2nd-3rd, 3rd-4th, 4th-5th ( 2500-3500 ) seem ok
    all with default settings.
    just about to try sensor threshold 50 %, cut-off delay 15 m/s, first 3 rpm ranges all 85ms, next 6 rpm ranges 90 m/s
    simple to fit up, and so far very enjoyable.
    it'll take time to sort out.
    Oh, it's fitted to my Springer, 132 HP 122 TQ, 110 B motor
    Any hints/info regarding set-up would be great.
    thanks Mike ( great to deal with )


    1st to 2nd on power bike might be easier to short shift.  
  • Grease Monkey Posts: 697
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    01 Sep 2019 09:14 PM
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 27 Aug 2019 07:36 AM
    Hey Tussuck, have you been experimenting with cut out times for different RPMS? I'm still trying to get 1st to second, there is so much torque at that change that it's tricky to get right.
    That shift rod looks like mine :)

    HD Forums Australia - IMG_20190826_164634.jpg

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 27 Aug 2019 07:53 AM
    Back cut gears will fix that Hilly!!
    Sorry Krash I missed this one, is that a doable option on these box's?
  • Onequickpuck Posts: 124
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    01 Sep 2019 10:43 PM
    Quoting ralphski on 01 Sep 2019 03:03 PM
    fitted mine Sat
    a quick 15 minute ride noticed 1st -2nd was a little jerky, and slight gearbox noise ( about 2500-3500 )
    2nd-3rd, 3rd-4th, 4th-5th ( 2500-3500 ) seem ok
    all with default settings.
    just about to try sensor threshold 50 %, cut-off delay 15 m/s, first 3 rpm ranges all 85ms, next 6 rpm ranges 90 m/s
    simple to fit up, and so far very enjoyable.
    it'll take time to sort out.
    Oh, it's fitted to my Springer, 132 HP 122 TQ, 110 B motor
    Any hints/info regarding set-up would be great.
    thanks Mike ( great to deal with )


    Ralphski


    Most important check.... - make sure your sensitivity reading is a solid 90-100% when you give her a firm upshift in the shed.

    Then set your threshold 10-30% below that.

    Always be sure to give her a firm hit for each and every upshift.


    At lower bike speed, it will be smoother by shortshifting under part-throttle.

    As the bike speeds up, all will get smoother, including full power upshifts.

    Don't be afraid to tinker mate, and most of all - ENJOY :)

    Thanks again heaps for trying the HealTech!

    Cheers

    Ring me any time if you need any tips.

  • Baloffski Posts: 1736
    Victoria
    Motor Head Baloffski
    01 Sep 2019 10:59 PM
    Reading with great interest, as found the time to complete the hook up tonight, just the basics. 
    Some time during the week, will perform all the moves for smooth operation, I hope..
    Thanks Mike, and also all the crew who have been passing on knowledge learnt with this interesting sucker....

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2619
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    02 Sep 2019 07:19 AM
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 27 Aug 2019 07:36 AM
    Hey Tussuck, have you been experimenting with cut out times for different RPMS? I'm still trying to get 1st to second, there is so much torque at that change that it's tricky to get right.
    That shift rod looks like mine :)

    HD Forums Australia - IMG_20190826_164634.jpg

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 27 Aug 2019 07:53 AM
    Back cut gears will fix that Hilly!!
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 01 Sep 2019 09:14 PM
    Sorry Krash I missed this one, is that a doable option on these box's?
    Well a mate started drag racing an ol Shovel in early 1980's, he built a light long drag frame used a wide slick, still an old shovel 4 speed. ( not as strong as the 5 speed, but basically same style gears. put an air shift with ing cut out like your using . would not shift under full power. no one would tell you in those days & you had to learn & do everything yourself. he started back cutting the gears  so learnt himself and learnt to do it right, but it's a dirty job no fun. had that old shovel in the low 9's but would blow 1st gear as too much power for the old 4 speed. went to a brad foot gear box.
    but these days you can buy back cut gears from baker, the street back cut would be best as race back cut, can't do a lot of miles or they start jumping out of gear when you back off.
    but back cut gears and that ing cut out, with a big HP motor would have a lot of fun!!
  • ralphski Posts: 1046
    NE Foothills, ADELAIDE
    Performance Poster ralphski
    03 Sep 2019 08:37 PM
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 01 Sep 2019 04:37 PMedited: 01 Sep 2019 04:41 PM
    Ralphski without getting into specific numbers as I believe they will be different for everyone this how I've come to see it with help on here.
    If it's snatchy you are either eating up your delay time or taking longer to change gear than you realise, lowering the sensitivity could worsen the former if that's why, could even be a bit of both.

    If it dives a little you have the cut-out time a bit long, nothing wrong with going out to this point and working back.

    Make sure your sensitivity is 100%, check that after a couple of runs as mine dropped off a bit, not much but it's all happening really fast and anything that changes has an effect, you can sort 1st to 2nd, it's do-able.
    went through the set-up menu in the shed.
    hard to check sensitivity, seems to go to 90-100%, how do you check ?
    didn't go for a ride.
    not really one to sort shit out, just want to ride.
  • tussuck Posts: 1955
    Melbourne
    Motor Head tussuck
    03 Sep 2019 09:50 PM
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 01 Sep 2019 04:37 PMedited: 01 Sep 2019 04:41 PM
    Ralphski without getting into specific numbers as I believe they will be different for everyone this how I've come to see it with help on here.
    If it's snatchy you are either eating up your delay time or taking longer to change gear than you realise, lowering the sensitivity could worsen the former if that's why, could even be a bit of both.

    If it dives a little you have the cut-out time a bit long, nothing wrong with going out to this point and working back.

    Make sure your sensitivity is 100%, check that after a couple of runs as mine dropped off a bit, not much but it's all happening really fast and anything that changes has an effect, you can sort 1st to 2nd, it's do-able.
    Quoting ralphski on 03 Sep 2019 08:37 PM
    went through the set-up menu in the shed.
    hard to check sensitivity, seems to go to 90-100%, how do you check ?
    didn't go for a ride.
    not really one to sort shit out, just want to ride.
    yeah thats about right...  When its spot on it just hits 100% all the time.  But 90-100 is good and will work sweet.

    Use the defaults and ride the damn thing...  and do not be afraid to just hold the throttle open and give a good confidant gear shift with your foot.  

    If you do normal clutching you may feel a 'miss'which is just the shifter cutoff working so all good; youll learn to get the timing right over time for clutch shifts (not that you will be doing many to be honest)

    I rarely use the clutch from 1st the 2nd nowadays.
  • rodrocket Posts: 225
    Stock Poster rodrocket
    09 Sep 2019 07:43 PM
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 14 Aug 2019 06:50 PM
    Feel like I should give this unit a proper plug, this shifter works exactly like Mike says, the app is simple to use and there are heaps of settings to fine tune with and if you need any help Mike is but a call or text away and gets back to you asap.
    You can ride it easy and just run up through the gears or go like the be-jusus and slam through them, as long as the engine is pulling you can utilise a no clutch upshift.
    I asked the question on here about a shift light, Mike got back to me and you can also get an updated module that has an output that is adjustable for both rpm and time on, so you can run a shift light or an air/electric type shifter as well if you wish.
    In fact I just got off the phone with Mike after he walked me through the set up for this feature, when you have the updated module the app knows and opens up the options to set it up.
    I don't have a light as yet but will sort something asap and report back.
    If you are in the wings on this don't be scared, once it's up and running the grin factor is there, to put it into perspective price wise, people spend more on a genuine Harley led headlight and never ride at night, you use this every ride and it's a hoot.
    Get on it.

    Any more info on the updated model

    Looking to put one on a 2014 CVO Breakout


    regards

    Rod

  • Grease Monkey Posts: 697
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    09 Sep 2019 07:47 PM
    What do you want to know Rod?
  • Onequickpuck Posts: 124
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    11 Sep 2019 12:37 PM
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 14 Aug 2019 06:50 PM
    Feel like I should give this unit a proper plug, this shifter works exactly like Mike says, the app is simple to use and there are heaps of settings to fine tune with and if you need any help Mike is but a call or text away and gets back to you asap.
    You can ride it easy and just run up through the gears or go like the be-jusus and slam through them, as long as the engine is pulling you can utilise a no clutch upshift.
    I asked the question on here about a shift light, Mike got back to me and you can also get an updated module that has an output that is adjustable for both rpm and time on, so you can run a shift light or an air/electric type shifter as well if you wish.
    In fact I just got off the phone with Mike after he walked me through the set up for this feature, when you have the updated module the app knows and opens up the options to set it up.
    I don't have a light as yet but will sort something asap and report back.
    If you are in the wings on this don't be scared, once it's up and running the grin factor is there, to put it into perspective price wise, people spend more on a genuine Harley led headlight and never ride at night, you use this every ride and it's a hoot.
    Get on it.

    Quoting rodrocket on 09 Sep 2019 07:43 PM

    Any more info on the updated model

    Looking to put one on a 2014 CVO Breakout


    regards

    Rod

    Hey Rod

    The updated model capsule has an O-Ring built into it to better keep consistent tension on the internal threads so the sensor sensitivity stays the same.
    I have them in both thread types. Check yours to be sure. Some of the CVO's are course thread, 5/16" x 18.

    The last '14 CVO Breakout I put one on though had the Fine threads (5/16" x 24)

    And verify if you have the coil back by the oil tank, or a Grenade coil between the cylinders.

    Confirm all this and I'll send you payment details.

    $450. will get the whole deal, including plug-n-play wiring harness to suit - Express Airbagged to your door :)

    Cheers
    Mike

    Oh yeah, drop me an email address and I'll send you the comprehensive install manual. It's a bit over the top, but gobs of great info and settings in it.
  • Onequickpuck Posts: 124
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    12 Sep 2019 07:32 PM


    Harley iQSE APPLICATION GUIDE 12-09-2019.pdf


    This is still a bit of works in progress, but have a look and let me know your thoughts.


    I have an install manual as well with heaps of details.

  • Onequickpuck Posts: 124
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    12 Sep 2019 07:35 PM

    The current Installation manual......


    It IS kind of a long read, but if you are taking the leap and putting a HealTech Quickshifter on your pride and joy, please take the time to read through this.

    It has a few pointers and a lot of great settings to get you started.


    Harley iQSE Install 12-09-2019.pdf

  • Baloffski Posts: 1736
    Victoria
    Motor Head Baloffski
    12 Sep 2019 10:19 PM
    Hey Mike, thanks for the Installation data, is really comprehensive. 
    Home now and will be playing around with the shifter tomorrow. Don't anticipate any dramas , for now. 
    Many thanks for help with my fuck up, appreciated. Mick

  • Onequickpuck Posts: 124
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    13 Sep 2019 08:41 AM
    Cheers Bal!

    Did ya see the part I put in the manual just for you?  LOL   12V OUTPUT ONLY  lol    :)    All good mate!
  • Baloffski Posts: 1736
    Victoria
    Motor Head Baloffski
    15 Sep 2019 01:40 PM
    Aye Mike.
    Gear change is awesome, up and down have no issues, smooth as, but I think I was doing that anyway from memory. Nah,  happy camper,man.
    But,  now this has highlighted something I need to address, my brakes, are just about cactus,like 'throw out the anchor an pray'. 
    Next job:new pads and rear disc.
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