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tussuck
2 years ago

Quoting HOG63 on 11 Apr 2022 10:19 AM
Hi guys. Wondering if any Sporty riders are using this awesome shifter?

Fark YES

Had one on the 883 for about 3-4 years now and its bloody awesome. What do you need to know?

HOG63
2 years ago

Love to know what settings you use.
I cannot get a smooth first to second. Rest of gear changes are fine.

tussuck
2 years ago

I find for normal medium rpm riding (ie I'm not pinning the throttle at WOT) 1st to 2nd will always be a little clunky. Its hard to avoid with the gearing i suppose. But for wide open throttle type take-offs then its fine when I run the rpm up and runs pretty much like an automatic transmission from 1st to 2nd all the way to 5th.

I have tried short shifting 1 to 2 and that works a bit, but normally there's always a little bit of a clunk etc.

maybe use the clutch for this bit as I do sometimes.

Do you go clutchless on the downshifts as well? I do. The only time I use the clutch is 2nd to 1st at the lights and then once in a while 1st to 2nd.

Ill have a look at my settings (i have about 10 saved ones for some reason). Its only a couple of things that get tweaked for a harley.

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Grease Monkey
2 years ago

Tussuck isn't yours a little special for the down shift? Seem to remember Mike saying something about your set up being a little different but I could be wrong, mine is upshift only as the switch only works when compressed.

tussuck
2 years ago

Quoting Grease Monkey on 12 Apr 2022 03:08 AM
Tussuck isn't yours a little special for the down shift? Seem to remember Mike saying something about your set up being a little different but I could be wrong, mine is upshift only as the switch only works when compressed.

Yeah you may be right... The sensor sort of floats in the holder so can do compression strokes for both up and down shifting (mind you that's it, there is no little auto throttle blipping etc that the jappa riders look for). My setting are normally below (but I do tweak sometimes if I change boots or if the weather is super hot - both of which alter the 'feel' of the shift):

Sensor Setup
Noise Filtering: Inactive
Sensor threshold: 70%-80%
Cut-off delay is normally 20ms (but I have run it at 15ms for a while, although that did lead to missed shifts as it was too short)

Cut-Off Times
Adaptive on
85ms to 100ms (I think this is the key one...as its the length of time the ignition is cut-off) Things like primary chain tension etc DO influence this setting, so make sure that the primary chain is at the right tightness, Primary/tranny oil is good, clutch is setup properly as well and the rear belt tension is setup right. ie make sure the entire drivetrain is at recommended spec...

RPM Setup
First rpm is 1500
Last RPM is 6000 (I have my rpm locked at a max of 5760 in the Thundermax. Which I know is WAY below factory but then again I'm not a racer and that's still a high rpm + I want to get a long life out of the motor which is over 125,000km atm). The auto shift makes up for this a LOT as the clutchless shifts let me keep the RPM's in a smaller window - no 20 minute wait changing gears like the rest do when using the clutch.

Shifter setup...
I had a lot of issues setting things up originally with inconsistent shifting etc. The root cause was that I had setup the sensor module on the shifter shaft with very little free play or slop - there was none basically - and so i had a sort of 'pre-load' on the sensor itself that in the end was buggering things up. After chatting to Mike the fix was to leave the sensor 'sloppy' with good free movement - you would almost think that the bolt is loose there's that much free play, but that did the trick! I would check it once a year now and adjust if needed, but that's not normally the case.

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HOG63
2 years ago

Awesome. Thanks for your detailed reply I’m out on the bike this Saturday. I’m going to try changing settings to match yours.
I do have a lot of slop in the linkage. Mike set it up like that I think.
I’ll let you know if it improves.

HOG63
2 years ago

Quoting Grease Monkey on 12 Apr 2022 03:08 AM
Tussuck isn't yours a little special for the down shift? Seem to remember Mike saying something about your set up being a little different but I could be wrong, mine is upshift only as the switch only works when compressed.

Quoting tussuck on 12 Apr 2022 05:36 AMedited: 12 Apr 2022 05:38 AM
Yeah you may be right... The sensor sort of floats in the holder so can do compression strokes for both up and down shifting (mind you that's it, there is no little auto throttle blipping etc that the jappa riders look for). My setting are normally below (but I do tweak sometimes if I change boots or if the weather is super hot - both of which alter the 'feel' of the shift):

Sensor Setup
Noise Filtering: Inactive
Sensor threshold: 70%-80%
Cut-off delay is normally 20ms (but I have run it at 15ms for a while, although that did lead to missed shifts as it was too short)

Cut-Off Times
Adaptive on
85ms to 100ms (I think this is the key one...as its the length of time the ignition is cut-off) Things like primary chain tension etc DO influence this setting, so make sure that the primary chain is at the right tightness, Primary/tranny oil is good, clutch is setup properly as well and the rear belt tension is setup right. ie make sure the entire drivetrain is at recommended spec...

RPM Setup
First rpm is 1500
Last RPM is 6000 (I have my rpm locked at a max of 5760 in the Thundermax. Which I know is WAY below factory but then again I'm not a racer and that's still a high rpm + I want to get a long life out of the motor which is over 125,000km atm). The auto shift makes up for this a LOT as the clutchless shifts let me keep the RPM's in a smaller window - no 20 minute wait changing gears like the rest do when using the clutch.

Shifter setup...
I had a lot of issues setting things up originally with inconsistent shifting etc. The root cause was that I had setup the sensor module on the shifter shaft with very little free play or slop - there was none basically - and so i had a sort of 'pre-load' on the sensor itself that in the end was buggering things up. After chatting to Mike the fix was to leave the sensor 'sloppy' with good free movement - you would almost think that the bolt is loose there's that much free play, but that did the trick! I would check it once a year now and adjust if needed, but that's not normally the case.

Good news. Big run today in Gippsland area and it seems to be shifting better from first to second gear.
I set it to:
Sensor threshold: 60%
Cut-off delay: 15ms
Cut-off time: 135ms (though I think that can be a bit lower)
Thanks again mate.

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tussuck
2 years ago

What rpm are you changing at? And that sensor threshold looks low (but would still work - did you do some test gear shifts and see what the app said?)

HOG63
2 years ago

Quoting tussuck on 16 Apr 2022 10:56 PM
What rpm are you changing at? And that sensor threshold looks low (but would still work - did you do some test gear shifts and see what the app said?)

Hi. I don’t have a tacho and have to rely on the app to see RPM, which is too small while riding.
I rigged up a shift light though and it’s set to 6000. Though I often shift earlier, so it’s more like an ‘idiot light’.
According to the chart from Hammer Performance my 1250 is performing well at 6000.
I’m using the Dynatek DSPT-1 ignition module, set max revs to 6500. For my ‘05 Sporty, the original (non-adjustable) HD module max’d at 6250.

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tussuck
2 years ago

Awesome...nice power curve too.... A 1250 with a Quickshifter will absolutely fly and leave all those wanna-be big blocks in the dust.

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