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  • SquALeD Posts: 69
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    05 Dec 2018 11:55 PM
    Quoting dyna13 on 05 Dec 2018 10:07 PMedited: 05 Dec 2018 10:08 PM
    500ml extra in SquALeDs seems like a hell of a lot extra in primary? Primary holds approx 900ml according to owners manual so wondering what would occur 
    Quoting brucefxdl on 05 Dec 2018 11:09 PM
    i'd be more concerned about less than 1/2 the normal amount in the trans.
    Yea, 1.4l drained out of primary...No isuues with finding neutral or clutch slip tho

    Off on a 1500klm trip this weekend so will be keeping an eye on it
  • boxa Posts: 612
    Performance Poster boxa
    08 Dec 2018 09:54 AM
    When i bought my first harley , back in 2007 think it was , a street bob , Dealer reccomended i go with the arlen ness big sucker breather , , think they called it , race tuner , and the pipes they were selling at the time , screaming eagle   i think ,, anyway ,  i questioned them about the warranty ,  my question was , its a new bike , would'nt  changing the dynamics of it discount the warranty  from harley ,,, the answer was technicly YES ,, But your covered ny us the dealer  warranty  if the parts were to do any damage ,, Ok fair enough .

    So sort of makes me think , why does'nt the dealer  spend the 100 bucks to fix the problem on a 36 grand bike , BEFORE they sell it , course they will say  it affects warranty , but so does the other stuff they like to push on you race tuners ect . If they choose to be funny

    Think if i was to get one it would be  with the proviso the dealer done this fix ,
  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    08 Dec 2018 11:09 AM
    The dealers wouldn’t know about the Williams pushrod.......
  • SquALeD Posts: 69
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2388
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    Quoting SquALeD on 09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    10 Dec 2018 09:28 AM
    Quoting SquALeD on 09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

    The using the clutch theory has been tested by a bloke on the US HD tech forum at some length. Upshot is, it makes no difference if you hardly use the clutch, a bike prone and currently transferring will transfer just as much as one using the clutch a lot........

    Many folks report that the transfer issue can be periodic. It’s very strange. One constant is that the Williams pushrod fixes it very time.....so far!
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2388
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    10 Dec 2018 02:05 PM
    Quoting SquALeD on 09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

    Quoting Oz Dan on 10 Dec 2018 09:28 AMedited: 10 Dec 2018 09:30 AM
    The using the clutch theory has been tested by a bloke on the US HD tech forum at some length. Upshot is, it makes no difference if you hardly use the clutch, a bike prone and currently transferring will transfer just as much as one using the clutch a lot........

    Many folks report that the transfer issue can be periodic. It’s very strange. One constant is that the Williams pushrod fixes it very time.....so far!
    it would be going past an oil seal. do you have a picture of the Williams pushrod beside the stock pushrod?

  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    10 Dec 2018 06:04 PM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

    Quoting Oz Dan on 10 Dec 2018 09:28 AMedited: 10 Dec 2018 09:30 AM
    The using the clutch theory has been tested by a bloke on the US HD tech forum at some length. Upshot is, it makes no difference if you hardly use the clutch, a bike prone and currently transferring will transfer just as much as one using the clutch a lot........

    Many folks report that the transfer issue can be periodic. It’s very strange. One constant is that the Williams pushrod fixes it very time.....so far!
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 02:05 PM
    it would be going past an oil seal. do you have a picture of the Williams pushrod beside the stock pushrod?

    The migration pathway is straight down the main shaft. There is of course, no seal. Didn’t take a pic of the Williams rod, but they can be found on Facebook, which I’m not on. But basically, it’s almost twice the girth, but with a machined flat edge along the entire rod so the primary can still breath. The extra girth greatly increases the pushrod surface area within the mainshaft. Enough to prevent any migration effects. I’m guessing the larger rod sets up a completely different pressure/eddy/vortex regime in the trans/primary which nullifies transfer.
  • SquALeD Posts: 69
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    19 Dec 2018 12:44 AM
    Just been in contact with Greg..Pushrods on the way here soon hopefully

    I say 'Pushrods' because I was talking to a mate the other day also with a 17 RG...I asked him to check the trans level, hes at 7800klm..guess what he found when he pulled the stick?..

  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    19 Dec 2018 06:43 AM
    Quoting SquALeD on 19 Dec 2018 12:44 AM
    Just been in contact with Greg..Pushrods on the way here soon hopefully

    I say 'Pushrods' because I was talking to a mate the other day also with a 17 RG...I asked him to check the trans level, hes at 7800klm..guess what he found when he pulled the stick?..

    Sweet fuck all? but I cheated........I read your post on the US forum......anyhow, once it arrives, it takes literally 5 minutes to fit, then your transfer problem is over and you can do those long trips not worrying about it. 
  • SquALeD Posts: 69
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    19 Dec 2018 10:55 AM
    Quoting SquALeD on 19 Dec 2018 12:44 AM
    Just been in contact with Greg..Pushrods on the way here soon hopefully

    I say 'Pushrods' because I was talking to a mate the other day also with a 17 RG...I asked him to check the trans level, hes at 7800klm..guess what he found when he pulled the stick?..

    Quoting Oz Dan on 19 Dec 2018 06:43 AM
    Sweet fuck all? but I cheated........I read your post on the US forum......anyhow, once it arrives, it takes literally 5 minutes to fit, then your transfer problem is over and you can do those long trips not worrying about it. 
    Yup....lol.
    He thought he was getting away with it too..

    Cheers for the help on this dude!
  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    19 Dec 2018 06:00 PM
    Quoting SquALeD on 19 Dec 2018 12:44 AM
    Just been in contact with Greg..Pushrods on the way here soon hopefully

    I say 'Pushrods' because I was talking to a mate the other day also with a 17 RG...I asked him to check the trans level, hes at 7800klm..guess what he found when he pulled the stick?..

    Quoting Oz Dan on 19 Dec 2018 06:43 AM
    Sweet fuck all? but I cheated........I read your post on the US forum......anyhow, once it arrives, it takes literally 5 minutes to fit, then your transfer problem is over and you can do those long trips not worrying about it. 
    Quoting SquALeD on 19 Dec 2018 10:55 AMedited: 19 Dec 2018 10:56 AM
    Yup....lol.
    He thought he was getting away with it too..

    Cheers for the help on this dude!
    You’re welcome brother
  • SquALeD Posts: 69
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    21 Dec 2018 01:13 AM
    Got my clutch actuator recall parts in the other day too...Dealer says bring it in anytime...Just after I mentioned the migration issue...That the dealers have never heard off...just sayin...be funny as if this recall fixed it ay lol
  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    21 Dec 2018 09:14 AM
    The recall has nothing to do with the transfer issue. If they say they haven’t heard of it, print off TA0022, which I’ve posted in this thread and shove it under their nose.......then ask em why they don’t read their own technical alerts.
  • dyna13 Posts: 149
    Stock Poster dyna13
    21 Dec 2018 04:06 PM
    Quoting SquALeD on 21 Dec 2018 01:13 AMedited: 21 Dec 2018 01:14 AM
    Got my clutch actuator recall parts in the other day too...Dealer says bring it in anytime...Just after I mentioned the migration issue...That the dealers have never heard off...just sayin...be funny as if this recall fixed it ay lol
    Found out why harley have never heard of it.

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  • SquALeD Posts: 69
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    22 Dec 2018 11:51 AM
    Quoting Oz Dan on 21 Dec 2018 09:14 AM
    The recall has nothing to do with the transfer issue. If they say they haven’t heard of it, print off TA0022, which I’ve posted in this thread and shove it under their nose.......then ask em why they don’t read their own technical alerts.
    Have TA0022 right here, just sayin that it would be 'coincidental' if the migration issue suddenly dissapeared after the clutch recall....that included having a modified pushrod fitted...that noone was told about ha!
  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    22 Dec 2018 12:45 PM
    Quoting Oz Dan on 21 Dec 2018 09:14 AM
    The recall has nothing to do with the transfer issue. If they say they haven’t heard of it, print off TA0022, which I’ve posted in this thread and shove it under their nose.......then ask em why they don’t read their own technical alerts.
    Quoting SquALeD on 22 Dec 2018 11:51 AMedited: 22 Dec 2018 11:52 AM
    Have TA0022 right here, just sayin that it would be 'coincidental' if the migration issue suddenly dissapeared after the clutch recall....that included having a modified pushrod fitted...that noone was told about ha!
    Now I’m with ya! Yeah, would be a real coincidence lol.......
  • mickle Posts: 1901
    Meadow Heights Victoria
    Motor Head mickle
    01 Jan 2019 10:44 AM
    A picture I found of the Williams clutch pushrod against the Harley rod.
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  • fatbat Posts: 2732
    Forum Legend fatbat
    01 Jan 2019 11:33 AM
    Yes a thicker rod is best 
  • Oz Dan Posts: 244
    QLD
    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    01 Jan 2019 12:48 PM
    The rod also has a machined edge along its length to allow the primary to breath.
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