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  • SquALeD Posts: 65
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    05 Dec 2018 11:55 PM
    Quoting dyna13 on 05 Dec 2018 10:07 PMedited: 05 Dec 2018 10:08 PM
    500ml extra in SquALeDs seems like a hell of a lot extra in primary? Primary holds approx 900ml according to owners manual so wondering what would occur 
    Quoting brucefxdl on 05 Dec 2018 11:09 PM
    i'd be more concerned about less than 1/2 the normal amount in the trans.
    Yea, 1.4l drained out of primary...No isuues with finding neutral or clutch slip tho

    Off on a 1500klm trip this weekend so will be keeping an eye on it
  • boxa Posts: 608
    Performance Poster boxa
    08 Dec 2018 09:54 AM
    When i bought my first harley , back in 2007 think it was , a street bob , Dealer reccomended i go with the arlen ness big sucker breather , , think they called it , race tuner , and the pipes they were selling at the time , screaming eagle   i think ,, anyway ,  i questioned them about the warranty ,  my question was , its a new bike , would'nt  changing the dynamics of it discount the warranty  from harley ,,, the answer was technicly YES ,, But your covered ny us the dealer  warranty  if the parts were to do any damage ,, Ok fair enough .

    So sort of makes me think , why does'nt the dealer  spend the 100 bucks to fix the problem on a 36 grand bike , BEFORE they sell it , course they will say  it affects warranty , but so does the other stuff they like to push on you race tuners ect . If they choose to be funny

    Think if i was to get one it would be  with the proviso the dealer done this fix ,
  • Oz Dan Posts: 219
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    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    08 Dec 2018 11:09 AM
    The dealers wouldn’t know about the Williams pushrod.......
  • SquALeD Posts: 65
    Stock Poster SquALeD
    09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2283
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    Quoting SquALeD on 09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

  • Oz Dan Posts: 219
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    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    10 Dec 2018 09:28 AM
    Quoting SquALeD on 09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

    The using the clutch theory has been tested by a bloke on the US HD tech forum at some length. Upshot is, it makes no difference if you hardly use the clutch, a bike prone and currently transferring will transfer just as much as one using the clutch a lot........

    Many folks report that the transfer issue can be periodic. It’s very strange. One constant is that the Williams pushrod fixes it very time.....so far!
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2283
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    10 Dec 2018 02:05 PM
    Quoting SquALeD on 09 Dec 2018 08:55 PM
    Just come back from a 1530km trip from perth>norseman>perth....sat at 130kmh/3000rpm most of the way with some 100kmh bits etc along the eastern..

    checked trans level

    not transferred a drop

    fak me...i dont get this at all
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

    Quoting Oz Dan on 10 Dec 2018 09:28 AMedited: 10 Dec 2018 09:30 AM
    The using the clutch theory has been tested by a bloke on the US HD tech forum at some length. Upshot is, it makes no difference if you hardly use the clutch, a bike prone and currently transferring will transfer just as much as one using the clutch a lot........

    Many folks report that the transfer issue can be periodic. It’s very strange. One constant is that the Williams pushrod fixes it very time.....so far!
    it would be going past an oil seal. do you have a picture of the Williams pushrod beside the stock pushrod?

  • Oz Dan Posts: 219
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    Stock Poster Oz Dan
    10 Dec 2018 06:04 PM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 09:02 AM
    That's good to hear m8!
    I would say you did not pull your clutch in many times? I would guess as it seems to migrate via the clutch rod that goes through gear box to the clutch.
    on another note I saw A I M  have a large piston for the hydraulic clutch, would give you a sort light pull to shift gear.

    Quoting Oz Dan on 10 Dec 2018 09:28 AMedited: 10 Dec 2018 09:30 AM
    The using the clutch theory has been tested by a bloke on the US HD tech forum at some length. Upshot is, it makes no difference if you hardly use the clutch, a bike prone and currently transferring will transfer just as much as one using the clutch a lot........

    Many folks report that the transfer issue can be periodic. It’s very strange. One constant is that the Williams pushrod fixes it very time.....so far!
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Dec 2018 02:05 PM
    it would be going past an oil seal. do you have a picture of the Williams pushrod beside the stock pushrod?

    The migration pathway is straight down the main shaft. There is of course, no seal. Didn’t take a pic of the Williams rod, but they can be found on Facebook, which I’m not on. But basically, it’s almost twice the girth, but with a machined flat edge along the entire rod so the primary can still breath. The extra girth greatly increases the pushrod surface area within the mainshaft. Enough to prevent any migration effects. I’m guessing the larger rod sets up a completely different pressure/eddy/vortex regime in the trans/primary which nullifies transfer.
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