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  • killerchef Posts: 1209
    Performance Poster killerchef
    11 Jun 2018 10:09 AM
    Quoting bungle on 11 Jun 2018 01:14 AM
    ...and yet sellers are still trying to pull top dollar on used Harley's, if you can get brand new for sub 20K then there is a whole heap of wishful thinking on Bike Sales 'n Gumtree 'n such.

    The fact that the line up of 2018 models is less than inspiring .....unless you have a hankering to dress like Marlon Brando and get all rebelly with lack of cause, HD seem to be stuck in a 50's time warp, too much trend chasing to my mind.

    I guess the Sport Glide in undress format is a decent looking bike but pricey. Before I opted for a cheap and cheerful 2nd hand Sporty I did spend a bit of time thinking about the Scout....


    having just bought a used HD locally i agree bungle that there are still a fair amount of star gazers out there.  however if your willing to take the time & weed through them you can find a few good priced used bikes.  
  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1453
    Castlemaine
    Performance Poster Geoff3DMN
    11 Jun 2018 10:36 AM
    Quoting brash on 09 Jun 2018 06:58 PM
    The local is moving 2018 Street Bobs sub 20k. That's pretty bloody cheap.
    Quoting Rivo on 09 Jun 2018 08:02 PM
    Is that Perth Harley ?

    They have that offer 2018 Street Bob $19 995 ride away, cheap 107 if your game to buy one lol
    Quoting brash on 11 Jun 2018 09:45 AM
    Nah Sydney Frasers. These new models aint moving very well from what I'm told.

    They gambled that they could shift most of them to the new and improved softail range and pick up some new younger riders and I don't think it's working.

    I reckon they've lost the interest of a big chunk of their rider base who liked the dynas, the new softails aren't different enough to attract younger riders and the Street range (whilst it's not tanking) isn't selling well enough to make up the slack.
  • bungle Posts: 116
    house of fun Ipswich
    Stock Poster bungle
    11 Jun 2018 12:37 PM
    Quoting bungle on 11 Jun 2018 01:14 AM
    ...and yet sellers are still trying to pull top dollar on used Harley's, if you can get brand new for sub 20K then there is a whole heap of wishful thinking on Bike Sales 'n Gumtree 'n such.

    The fact that the line up of 2018 models is less than inspiring .....unless you have a hankering to dress like Marlon Brando and get all rebelly with lack of cause, HD seem to be stuck in a 50's time warp, too much trend chasing to my mind.

    I guess the Sport Glide in undress format is a decent looking bike but pricey. Before I opted for a cheap and cheerful 2nd hand Sporty I did spend a bit of time thinking about the Scout....


    Quoting killerchef on 11 Jun 2018 10:09 AM
    having just bought a used HD locally i agree bungle that there are still a fair amount of star gazers out there.  however if your willing to take the time & weed through them you can find a few good priced used bikes.  
    Yeah Killerchef I check the 2nd hand sites pretty religiously and although there are some well cared for bikes, with and without extra "shiny", the fact that you can get a 107 sub 20k.... 

    You are right there are some bikes priced to sell,  or at least realistically priced. But, lowballing is becoming less of a thing and more of a market correction/reality check. I live in hope of finding my "perfect" bike out there somewhere...
  • brash Posts: 562
    Performance Poster brash
    11 Jun 2018 03:21 PM
    Quoting Rivo on 09 Jun 2018 08:02 PM
    Is that Perth Harley ?

    They have that offer 2018 Street Bob $19 995 ride away, cheap 107 if your game to buy one lol
    Quoting brash on 11 Jun 2018 09:45 AM
    Nah Sydney Frasers. These new models aint moving very well from what I'm told.
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 11 Jun 2018 10:36 AM

    They gambled that they could shift most of them to the new and improved softail range and pick up some new younger riders and I don't think it's working.

    I reckon they've lost the interest of a big chunk of their rider base who liked the dynas, the new softails aren't different enough to attract younger riders and the Street range (whilst it's not tanking) isn't selling well enough to make up the slack.
    spot on, I'm a young bloke. All I wanted was a tough as dyna for years. I cut my teeth on sporties and custom choppers now I'm having the best time on my Low Rider S. A proper modern classic.
  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1453
    Castlemaine
    Performance Poster Geoff3DMN
    11 Jun 2018 04:01 PM
    Quoting brash on 11 Jun 2018 09:45 AM
    Nah Sydney Frasers. These new models aint moving very well from what I'm told.
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 11 Jun 2018 10:36 AM

    They gambled that they could shift most of them to the new and improved softail range and pick up some new younger riders and I don't think it's working.

    I reckon they've lost the interest of a big chunk of their rider base who liked the dynas, the new softails aren't different enough to attract younger riders and the Street range (whilst it's not tanking) isn't selling well enough to make up the slack.
    Quoting brash on 11 Jun 2018 03:21 PM
    spot on, I'm a young bloke. All I wanted was a tough as dyna for years. I cut my teeth on sporties and custom choppers now I'm having the best time on my Low Rider S. A proper modern classic.

    If I had to pick a bike today that would be as fondly remembered as the FXR is now in 20 years time I'd bet on the Lowrider S 110.

    As for the Softail guys, I don't have a problem with them but how many people do you see talking about the 110S Softail model the way they talk about the Lowrider S?

    Not many from what I've seen, I've said before and I'll say it again, if they had to drop one of the model ranges then it should have been the Softail and NOT the dynas.
  • LOFTYBOB Posts: 3640
    Strength in Unity
    Forum Legend LOFTYBOB
    11 Jun 2018 06:57 PM
    Brand new Heritage Softail at Peter Stevens Adelaide for $29,490 Ride Away, About $5k off
  • Far Canal Posts: 1262
    Performance Poster Far Canal
    11 Jun 2018 09:19 PM
    Quoting Jayman6 on 09 Jun 2018 03:30 PM
    It’s a valid point.
    I work in the beer game, and a very real issue we face is the decline in what’s referred to as the “traditional classic” category I.e VB, 4X, New, West End etc...
    The issue is that the generation of drinkers that drink these brands are effectively dying or giving up the grog/drinking less. The next generation of drinkers have nowhere near the emotional attachment to any one brand or category. They shop around on price, quality and what’s “on trend”. HD are dealing with the same phenomenon, and their reaction shows (revised model range, marketing to millenials etc). I’m currently shopping around for a tourer, and I won’t lie, I took a sneak peek at the Indian website myself, as well as BMW & Triumph. Now at 37 I’m by no means a gen Y or Millenial, but I am at the nexus of that generational crossover. I think we’ll see HD pull their fingers out a bit over the coming years, but get ready for internal cuts as well, built in Thailand, factory closures, streamlining of processes. It’s all symptomatic of a company that has woken up to itself. 
    Quoting rodders on 09 Jun 2018 06:20 PMedited: 09 Jun 2018 06:22 PM
    Good job you got! 
    Part of the reason for the decline in VB beer was a previous owner of CUB (Sth Africans I seem to recall) fucked around with the recipe and reduced the alcohol content. This pissed off a lot of traditional VB drinkers who then moved on to discover other brands.
    They perhaps did me a favour as I've expanded my beer purchases now to include foreign and boutique beers whereas in the old days Beer was VB and VB was Beer.
    The lesson here is that business fuck with their loyal customers at their own peril. 

    Quoting Jayman6 on 10 Jun 2018 07:39 AM
    Pretty much right Rodders.
    Under the Fosters Group ownership we lowered the alc from 4.9 to 4.6 to save a few bucks on excise, and there was all but rioting in the streets.
    SAB Miller (the Sth Africans) bought out CUB in 2011 and one of their first changes was to revert VB back to its old recipe. We even posted a full page apology in all the News Ltd tabloids! The loyal drinkers came back on board, but damage had been done and drinkers had discovered other beers.
    You’re spot on. 
    Interesting times for HD who need to engage a new generation of riders without disenfranchising the core consumer base they currently have. 

    VB lowering the alcohol content of the beer put heaps of loyal drinkers I know off the product. Would have put me off it too if it was my beer of choice.
    Anyway consider this. My local pub some time ago put on a beer tasting competition. You got served a smallish (maybe 8oz) beer of the 10 most popular beers currently being served at the time. In a glass with no indication what it was. You were given a list of ten beers that were getting served up and had to say what each served beer was on the list.
    Most people got 2 out of 10. The stout and the cascade pale ale, because one was dark in colour the other very pale. The bloke who won the competition claimed to be normally a non drinker, he got 3 out of 10. There was an uncomfortable silence amongst the keen drinkers afterwards.
  • paulybronco Posts: 9796
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    12 Jun 2018 08:05 AM
    Ha Ha its a little like wine buffs they really are wine bluffs
  • bungle Posts: 116
    house of fun Ipswich
    Stock Poster bungle
    13 Jun 2018 12:30 PM
    Well it seems M&W are sliding a few 0km - sub 100km Bobs (both types) for sub 20K... five cents off, have the usual demo loan bikes deals but these were seriously under used Bobs
  • LOFTYBOB Posts: 3640
    Strength in Unity
    Forum Legend LOFTYBOB
    15 Jun 2018 07:26 AM
    Seems a good deal

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  • bungle Posts: 116
    house of fun Ipswich
    Stock Poster bungle
    15 Jun 2018 08:17 AM
    I'll wait a few years and let someone else depreciate it, but yeah a bloody good deal for a new bike.
  • Damobigred Posts: 3
    Stock Poster Damobigred
    09 Jul 2018 09:23 AM
    2018 street bob, 0km just over $20k 
    12” chiseled mini apes 
    VH short shots 
    Cam push rod package 
    Power vision 
    Air cleaner
    First Harley I’ve purchased but have been admiring for years so once I was given this quote it was a done deal take my money lol


  • JFE Posts: 1159
    NSW
    Performance Poster JFE
    09 Jul 2018 06:57 PM
    Quoting Damobigred on 09 Jul 2018 09:23 AM
    2018 street bob, 0km just over $20k 
    12” chiseled mini apes 
    VH short shots 
    Cam push rod package 
    Power vision 
    Air cleaner
    First Harley I’ve purchased but have been admiring for years so once I was given this quote it was a done deal take my money lol


    ...bloody hell, they are giving them away now. Good deal.
  • Damobigred Posts: 3
    Stock Poster Damobigred
    09 Jul 2018 07:11 PM
    Quoting Damobigred on 09 Jul 2018 09:23 AM
    2018 street bob, 0km just over $20k 
    12” chiseled mini apes 
    VH short shots 
    Cam push rod package 
    Power vision 
    Air cleaner
    First Harley I’ve purchased but have been admiring for years so once I was given this quote it was a done deal take my money lol


    Quoting JFE on 09 Jul 2018 06:57 PM
    ...bloody hell, they are giving them away now. Good deal.
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    Super impressed with the dealer they have bent over backwards to help with everything 
  • Damobigred Posts: 3
    Stock Poster Damobigred
    09 Jul 2018 07:13 PM
    Quoting Damobigred on 09 Jul 2018 09:23 AM
    2018 street bob, 0km just over $20k 
    12” chiseled mini apes 
    VH short shots 
    Cam push rod package 
    Power vision 
    Air cleaner
    First Harley I’ve purchased but have been admiring for years so once I was given this quote it was a done deal take my money lol


    Quoting JFE on 09 Jul 2018 06:57 PM
    ...bloody hell, they are giving them away now. Good deal.
    Quoting Damobigred on 09 Jul 2018 07:11 PM
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    Super impressed with the dealer they have bent over backwards to help with everything 
    Obviously midway through the build ??
  • JFE Posts: 1159
    NSW
    Performance Poster JFE
    25 Jul 2018 06:25 PM
    HD Forums Australia - 1B209E8A-7594-4280-8C8F-FDBD9D3FBBB9.jpeg
    ....not a bad EOFY price; Canberra HD (part of M&W). A few other Softys at similar discounts.
  • Baloffski Posts: 1081
    Victoria
    Performance Poster Baloffski
    25 Jul 2018 06:59 PM
    Quoting JFE on 25 Jul 2018 06:25 PM
    HD Forums Australia - 1B209E8A-7594-4280-8C8F-FDBD9D3FBBB9.jpeg
    ....not a bad EOFY price; Canberra HD (part of M&W). A few other Softys at similar discounts.
    But, do you get a Sar Wars Storm Trooper riders suit with Bob? 
    i kinda don"t mind the look after checking out for some time, grows onya, like a fungus.....
  • Smokey61 Posts: 552
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    25 Jul 2018 07:33 PM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 11 Jun 2018 10:36 AM

    They gambled that they could shift most of them to the new and improved softail range and pick up some new younger riders and I don't think it's working.

    I reckon they've lost the interest of a big chunk of their rider base who liked the dynas, the new softails aren't different enough to attract younger riders and the Street range (whilst it's not tanking) isn't selling well enough to make up the slack.
    Quoting brash on 11 Jun 2018 03:21 PM
    spot on, I'm a young bloke. All I wanted was a tough as dyna for years. I cut my teeth on sporties and custom choppers now I'm having the best time on my Low Rider S. A proper modern classic.
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 11 Jun 2018 04:01 PM

    If I had to pick a bike today that would be as fondly remembered as the FXR is now in 20 years time I'd bet on the Lowrider S 110.

    As for the Softail guys, I don't have a problem with them but how many people do you see talking about the 110S Softail model the way they talk about the Lowrider S?

    Not many from what I've seen, I've said before and I'll say it again, if they had to drop one of the model ranges then it should have been the Softail and NOT the dynas.
    They dropped the Dyna *and* Softail frames. They only kept the name 'Softail'.

    The rear frame/swingarm is the problem with the new frames. It looks like a WL rather than a UL/Knuck/Pan.
  • Jay-Dee Posts: 18
    Great South East
    Stock Poster Jay-Dee
    25 Jul 2018 10:52 PM
    Quoting JFE on 25 Jul 2018 06:25 PM
    HD Forums Australia - 1B209E8A-7594-4280-8C8F-FDBD9D3FBBB9.jpeg
    ....not a bad EOFY price; Canberra HD (part of M&W). A few other Softys at similar discounts.
    Quoting Baloffski on 25 Jul 2018 06:59 PM
    But, do you get a Sar Wars Storm Trooper riders suit with Bob? 
    i kinda don"t mind the look after checking out for some time, grows onya, like a fungus.....
    Agree, at the start I really wanted to hate them but sort of liked them for some unknown reason, and with time, like that fungus you mentioned, they've grown on me.
  • WideglidingNZ Posts: 95
    Stock Poster WideglidingNZ
    26 Jul 2018 05:06 AM
    Quoting LOFTYBOB on 15 Jun 2018 07:26 AM
    Seems a good deal

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    Yeah we have the same deal in NZ, I was in at my local dealer yesterday and enquired about the brand new (black)  Streetbob and they were all sold bar a demo bike, but they had a ugly green one there and wanted just under 3 grand more for it (bloody expensive paint job?), I am considering moving to a M8 or upgrading my '15 wideglide, don't really want a streetbob though, I like the Sportglide but can't get over the ugly mag's and exhaust
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