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  • LOFTYBOB
    LOFTYBOB
    5 years ago
    My last trip North to the Flinders Ranges convinced me I needed a bike with a lot bigger fuel range.
    So I went out and did a deal on one of these just released Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports.
    Over 500 km's between fills, should get me where I want to go.

    Pick it up next week.


    Africa Twin.jpg
  • steelo
    steelo
    5 years ago
    Bloody heck LB!! Looks good.
  • kevinc
    kevinc
    5 years ago
    Bewdiful. post a review . i want one too.
    What put me off was the amount of mods people make to these bikes.
    Can you buy one and ride it stock standard so it doesn't become a money pit?
  • steelo
    steelo
    5 years ago
    Oh heck. I've just woken up after a half hour of a black priest at the wedding. Praaaaaaiiiisee the lord.
    I think the queen is not amused. Camilla was having a chuckle


    priest.jpg
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    Well Kingchops, you don’t need to worry about changing the forum. So far it’s a Honda’s Africa Twin, mileage as a big issue cause we don’t like pulling into pubs at every chance,  Kevinc’s great coment about adventure bikes needing to be modified, (hey cause we never do that with Harleys), suspension travel (not a real big Harley topic), mid range tourque, duh, Aust sales stats, a Honda Bagger option, then somehow James Brown, the Queen and that Camilla Parker Bowles bint. Somehow at the end, buying an Africa Twin to get away from it all seems to make sense.
  • Smokey61
    Smokey61
    5 years ago
    Colours haven't changed much in 35 years...

    honda-vf750f-100170-915.jpg
  • John.R
    John.R
    5 years ago
    A bloke I met was fucked over by Honda and nearly paralyzed from the first gen Africa twin.
    Suspension link failed on an erosion mound at 40-50kmh and sent full force through his spine. 

    No warranty or compensation because it wasnt using the OEM brand tyres.


  • B0GN
    B0GN
    5 years ago
    The dodgy elbow doesn’t seem to be slowing you down any, Lofty :-)
  • B0GN
    B0GN
    5 years ago
    Damn!! Well at least it’s the cold wet months ;-)
  • steelo
    steelo
    5 years ago
    Yes I'm sorry about the whole James brown thing. I was looking for somewhere to post and LB's was the most recent thread.
  • boxa
    boxa
    5 years ago
    What tyres do you run on these adventure bikes you've had Lofty , do you just use what they come with or change to a prefered brand , I assume you ride on the road until you get to the dirt stuff .

  • bloodog
    bloodog
    5 years ago
     
  • LOFTYBOB
    LOFTYBOB
    5 years ago
    GIVI Treckers like what I had on the Triumph, light and strong.
  • John.R
    John.R
    5 years ago
    Stated super clearly in the manual re tyres. 
    Not sure they were 100% identical to OEM spec, but were normal suitable adventure tyres. And certainly not the cause of a complete shock failure 

    Honda flew an engineer from Japan to inspect it (and likely make notes to update it, which they did)

    Honda knocked warranty on the head and compo on the head (he had a few fused vertebrae or something now).

    Next step was to have a certified  motorcycling engineer prove the tyres made fk a difference to the failure. Strangely enough they were all on retainers to Honda and nobody could do it. 30k down the drain and no riding again .

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/kambah-organ-recipient-terry-cunningham-says-thanks-on-donatelife-day-20171116-gzmwic.html
  • LOFTYBOB
    LOFTYBOB
    5 years ago
    Quoting John.R on 06 Jun 2018 01:20 PMedited: 06 Jun 2018 01:26 PM

    Stated super clearly in the manual re tyres. 

    Not sure they were 100% identical to OEM spec, but were normal suitable adventure tyres. And certainly not the cause of a complete shock failure 

    Honda flew an engineer from Japan to inspect it (and likely make notes to update it, which they did)

    Honda knocked warranty on the head and compo on the head (he had a few fused vertebrae or something now).

    Next step was to have a certified  motorcycling engineer prove the tyres made fk a difference to the failure. Strangely enough they were all on retainers to Honda and nobody could do it. 30k down the drain and no riding again .

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/kambah-organ-recipient-terry-cunningham-says-thanks-on-donatelife-day-20171116-gzmwic.html

    There must be a lawyer that will take Honda apart.
    First I have heard of a failure like this, and there are thousands of these bikes being hammered and raced in desert races around the world with no failures reported.
    Hope he recovers well.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Quoting John.R on 06 Jun 2018 01:20 PMedited: 06 Jun 2018 01:26 PM

    Stated super clearly in the manual re tyres. 

    Not sure they were 100% identical to OEM spec, but were normal suitable adventure tyres. And certainly not the cause of a complete shock failure 

    Honda flew an engineer from Japan to inspect it (and likely make notes to update it, which they did)

    Honda knocked warranty on the head and compo on the head (he had a few fused vertebrae or something now).

    Next step was to have a certified  motorcycling engineer prove the tyres made fk a difference to the failure. Strangely enough they were all on retainers to Honda and nobody could do it. 30k down the drain and no riding again .

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/kambah-organ-recipient-terry-cunningham-says-thanks-on-donatelife-day-20171116-gzmwic.html

    So do we have any idea if a tyre failure was the cause of the shock failure or the shock failed first causing the rear to collapse ?
  • John.R
    John.R
    5 years ago
    Quoting John.R on 06 Jun 2018 01:20 PMedited: 06 Jun 2018 01:26 PM

    Stated super clearly in the manual re tyres. 

    Not sure they were 100% identical to OEM spec, but were normal suitable adventure tyres. And certainly not the cause of a complete shock failure 

    Honda flew an engineer from Japan to inspect it (and likely make notes to update it, which they did)

    Honda knocked warranty on the head and compo on the head (he had a few fused vertebrae or something now).

    Next step was to have a certified  motorcycling engineer prove the tyres made fk a difference to the failure. Strangely enough they were all on retainers to Honda and nobody could do it. 30k down the drain and no riding again .

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/kambah-organ-recipient-terry-cunningham-says-thanks-on-donatelife-day-20171116-gzmwic.html

    Quoting LOFTYBOB on 06 Jun 2018 11:20 PM

    There must be a lawyer that will take Honda apart.

    First I have heard of a failure like this, and there are thousands of these bikes being hammered and raced in desert races around the world with no failures reported.
    Hope he recovers well.

    He went down the legal channel and spent a whole heap of money, but in the end he needed a specific type of engineer to provide a report to the court that the tyre had absolutely nothing to do with the failure of the bike. Of the 8 or so that can do it across the country, none of them would touch as apparently they were on a retainer.

    The family ended up finding the surgeons who did some crazy surgery so hes walking again and taking photos again.

    Apparently the failure point was fixed on the next model/year.

    Shame because he's a gun photographer and used to photograph adventure tours around Aus.

    tcphoto.com.au



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