Loud exhaust testing

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  • Ronin079
    Ronin079
    5 years ago
    Exhaust noise testing is happening in QLD, has anyone had any experiences with it?
  • Ronin079
    Ronin079
    5 years ago
    From what I have heard anything other than the standard issued/stock pipes are all technically considered illegal. However if they pass the decibel test then there is leniency to the rule.... 
  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    5 years ago
    So if you don't have a tacho how do they figure out what rpm they are testing at a mobile stop?
  • Jay-Dee
    Jay-Dee
    5 years ago
    So I'd take from that board in the original post that my Breakout is good to 100db, 95 as per the compliance decal +5db, that's probably not too bad if I'm correct.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Be careful with any admissions on here as the police are on the site taking notes........
  • Roo Ted
    Roo Ted
    5 years ago
    Don't let Paranoia get in the way of a good story.
    We all know the walls have ears.....
    Roo ;-)
  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    5 years ago
    I grew up when v8s were the norm and the gurgling of a finely tuned (or not so finely tuned) was something even the older generation admired.  Seems to me we're doing that lazy policing thing again where it's just easier to grab everyone who isn't "in the box" rather than hitting the streets and grabbing the guys who are running obviously obnoxious gear.

    So since we're all destined to become pussies are there any pipes that give the rumble without the dbs when the revs go up?
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    oops. posted my stuff below and just saw Hilly's post above, must have gone in while I was typing, great article, thanks Hilly.

    A lots been raised here. 
    The following's a bit dull but I like to know the rules at least as well as Mr Plod who often knows very little about legislation.
    The full test guidelines are available, google up
    National Stationary Exhaust Noise Test Procedures for In-Service Motor Vehicles – September 2006 (ISBN: 1 921168 50 1)
    but basically the microphone is set 500mm back from the bike at the level of the exhaust and at a 45 degree angle to the side of the bike. For HD's the revs are 2500, (don't know what you do without a tacho)   For a bike built after 1985 the Db level should be no more than 94Db, for pre 85 bikes it's 100Db.

    As for defects, other than noise I can't find anything in the vehicle standards legislation or regs (at least in SA) that prevent running after market or even home made pipes.  So giving a defect solely on the grounds that your pipes are not genuine shouldn't stand up in court.  People have been telling me that pipes must have the compliance stamp or you'll get defected but so far I can't find that requirement in any legislation, has anyone else found it?

  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    5 years ago
    Just back from a 450run that went through Mt Glorious to see if the cops were about like they say. We stopped at the top and spoke to an older dude who rides the road once a week that they are out in force every weekend for the last 3 weeks. Lic, tyres , rbt and Qld transport testing exhausts. Anywhere up to 7 cars and 15-20 cops. Great utilisation of resources .....NOT!
  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    5 years ago
    Now that you've mentioned it Scouser I do remember hooking a mulitimeter up to a coil (cage) years ago.  I think that was a specialty meter though, with an RPM setting and all kinds of auto goodies.  Wouldn't be surprised to hear road side testing would have one.  That answers my question as to how they'd do it.
  • Ronin079
    Ronin079
    5 years ago
    So how would one get another sticker, put the stock pipes back on get a new test and be issued with another sticker? 
  • Ronin079
    Ronin079
    5 years ago
    Thanks Hilly, Bonkerz, everyone for the info, appreciate it! It’s an interesting discussion....
    Yeah avoid the Latte strip..??
  • Mr.Mow
    Mr.Mow
    5 years ago
    Years ago I had a Cagiva Mito 125, little 2 stroke single.. thing was not far off a 125 GP bike with headlights.
    I got pinged for noise (redlined it past a cop car), when I went for testing it failed, stock factory exhaust... it had no baffles, was straight through and loud as fck.

    Problem came up, ADR testing has something to do with displacement X power = dB at xyz revlimit.
    Meant a little 125 was tested at 4000rpm. These bikes idled at 2000rpm, powervalve opened at 8000 and redlined at 11000.
    It was fckn loud, ear splitting loud at 8000.

    So regardless of it being the factory exhaust, unmodified and passing adr, it wasn’t complying with local testing, was a nightmare that saw me sell the thing on as someone else’s problem.
    Goes to show how stupid the state vs federal systems were.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    5 years ago
    NSW, if you fitted aftermarket system, seller had a sticker to say system met the noise test. if you had that on your muff to show cops, got past if pulled up. but think law has changed.
    I have only ever been defected for noise once, & was on my old Shovel, all the info cop gave me turned out wrong. wrong phone # for EPA. but got in touch with EPA they told me shovel could be over 100db as older. went to muffler place had a test, got a form from them went to rego. guy there took defect off said, the cops don't know & waste there time so carry the form he filled out, to show any cop that stops me in future. has never happened since. but I've never liked the look of these new pipes, a lot fit, can understand why people use them, but I've never needed too. QLD Cops from what I've seen throw a curved ball, or it might be the state government . but last year I road top to bottom or QLD not one problem saw less cops than I see patrolling in NSW. but I'll give FNQ bikers the thumbs up, ( they still know how to nod or wave to another biker on the road. sad to say NSW don't.
  • Oz Dan
    Oz Dan
    5 years ago
    My Tamborine......the copper’s own sign says any bike after 2005 you can add 5dB to stickered noise level.....

  • Iron
    Iron
    5 years ago
    If you got a iPhone there are a few descent apps to download which will give you a idea of what noise your putting out. Mine will fail either way V&H big rads mixed in with a stage 3

    Sorry OZdan I didn't get to reading your earlier post mate
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    5 years ago
    I purchased a Db meter and laser thermometer off eBay. About $40 each. 
    Db readings on my iPhone App are comparable but as the mic doesn’t have any wind protection like the Db meter, (foam ball) it’s only useful in the garage on maybe on a very still day. 
  • liberator
    liberator
    5 years ago
    Me, I'm not a fan of loud pipes, you see the reason being is that I have a small dick, and I don't feel the need to advertise it,
  • Bonkerz
    Bonkerz
    5 years ago
    Quoting liberator on 28 May 2018 04:44 AM

    Me, I'm not a fan of loud pipes, you see the reason being is that I have a small dick, and I don't feel the need to advertise it,

    There's loud and obnoxious and then there's that sweet rumble.  I don't care if they take all the obnoxious pipes off the road but FFS don't go down the path or V8s went where half of them sound like bees farting.
  • Ric
    Ric
    5 years ago

    Hi gents,

    Been testing a few of those free apps for testing my exhaust.

    Calibrated them as advised then checked the bikes note.

    With a set of Freedom 4" Racing pipes with no quiet baffle inserted the results were.

    Idle 1000 rpm 86 Db.

    2500 rpm 86 Db.

    4000 rpm 86 Db.

    One of my farts coz I couldn't resist testing it 82 Db. LOL

    Cheers

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