Have Aussie Harley's always been "5HD" on vin ?

  • Changa
    Changa
    5 years ago
    G'day all.
    I've been told that some  older Harley's from the 80's - 90's were sold in Australia with the vin beginning with "1HD" as opposed to "5HD".

    Is that right ? I've always been led to believe the vin for an Australian sold Harley was 5HD, and others were complianced imports.

    Peter
  • Sparra
    Sparra
    5 years ago
    Yes that is right..
  • Smokey61
    Smokey61
    5 years ago
    Yep. My '86 Softy was 1HD, bought new from HD dealer in Townsville.
  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    5 years ago
    I did not check my old HD's, smokey61 86 was after HD got company back from AMF, I think AMF took over about 1970 or late 69. when they went from generator to alternator cone motors.
  • killerchef
    killerchef
    5 years ago
    yep my 92 sporty was a 1HD & wouldn't have been import.  made in the york factory.
  • steelo
    steelo
    5 years ago
    Isn't that for the Harleys that were designed to be ridden on the other side of the road?
  • Changa
    Changa
    5 years ago
    Thanks guys. Learn something new every day.

    I'm thinking of getting an "older' Harley, and - as I've had a recent import myself - just want to make sure of what's what.

    A couple of older ones I've looked at are 1HD bikes, so your info is great.

    Many thanks,
    Peter
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    5 years ago
    My '96WG has a 1HD VIN. Had a mph speedo when I bought it used from a dealer.
  • snappy
    snappy
    5 years ago
    what year did HD start using the 5HD previx ?
  • Benno
    Benno
    3 years ago
    I have been looking for the answer to the last question of this thread, does anybody know when they first started using the 5HD prefix
  • Old Fatty
    Old Fatty
    3 years ago
    Mines a 2002 Fatboy bought new from Harley Heaven in Adelaide. It is a 1HD vin.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    3 years ago
    The 5HD is for models built for exporting from the USA while the 1HD are USA Domestic (so my FXR is a 1HD as it was imported into NZ years ago) 
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    3 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 29 Jun 2018 07:26 AM

    My '96WG has a 1HD VIN. Had a mph speedo when I bought it used from a dealer.

    If the speedo was in MPH then its was an imported model.
  • Benno
    Benno
    3 years ago
    Quoting tussuck on 24 Jul 2020 03:41 AM

    The 5HD is for models built for exporting from the USA while the 1HD are USA Domestic (so my FXR is a 1HD as it was imported into NZ years ago) 

    Yep, but what year did they change from using 1HD in Oz to 5HD
  • John.R
    John.R
    3 years ago
    Somepoint shortly after introduction of Twin Cams is the closest I know.
  • Benno
    Benno
    3 years ago
    Quoting John.R on 24 Jul 2020 04:38 AM

    Somepoint shortly after introduction of Twin Cams is the closest I know.

    Good on you John, thanks.
  • tussuck
    tussuck
    3 years ago
    1981- Present:
    From 1981 to present the VIN has been a 17 digit code located on the frame and abbreviated on the engine. In this VIN the first 3 digits are the world manufacturer ID (see list below), the fourth digit is the weight class (see weight class list below). The next two letters are the model designation (see list below), the sixth digit was the engine type (see list below), the seventh digit was the introduction period (see list below), The eighth digit was the VIN check digit which could be 0-9 or X, the next letter was the model year (see list below), the letter after that was the assembly plant (see list below) and the last 6 numbers were the production numbers. If you are looking for information on a specific VIN number on a bike produced after 1981 you can look it up on Harley-Davidson's official VIN search at this link: https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson.com/sip/vehicle/lookup?vin=
    Example:
    World Mfg. Class Model Engine Intro Check Year Plant Production Number
    1HD 1 AA K 1 9 B Y 158126
    World Manufacturer ID:
    1HD = Manufactured for sale within the United States
    5HD = Manufactured for sale outside of the United States
    932 = Manufactured in and for sale only in Brazil
    MEG = Manufactured in and for sale only in India

    (if its a 1HD its made for local USA and then someone has imported it into Aussy)

    https://www.tabperformance.com/harley-davidson-vin-reference-guide-s/224.htm

  • John.R
    John.R
    3 years ago
    Quoting John.R on 24 Jul 2020 04:38 AM

    Somepoint shortly after introduction of Twin Cams is the closest I know.

    Quoting Benno on 24 Jul 2020 06:33 AM

    Good on you John, thanks.

    Definitely not a science but I think all domestically imported Evo's are 1hd. 
    I think 5hd exists for Evo's, I think it applies to a different market though like Asia/Africa or something. 

    Then I think there must have been a cross over period somewhere in early 2000's, lots of FB threads about people buying brand new but they're 1HD.

    I dont think I've ever read about anyone buying an 04-05ish onwards bike and it being a 1HD.

    To me it seems like the early 88 cubes where the cross over.
  • steelo
    steelo
    3 years ago
    Check this site
    By the looks of it, 17 digit VINS have been in use since 2001 and that the 5HD designation appeared then
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    3 years ago
    Quoting Wideglider on 29 Jun 2018 07:26 AM

    My '96WG has a 1HD VIN. Had a mph speedo when I bought it used from a dealer.

    Quoting tussuck on 24 Jul 2020 03:42 AM

    If the speedo was in MPH then its was an imported model.

    If I was a betting man....