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  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 286
    Cairns FNQ
    Stage 1 Poster Ken in Cairns
    17 Aug 2018 06:32 PM
    Yep but not for another 2 1/2 Weeks :(

    Cheers
    Ken
  • Smokey61 Posts: 663
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    18 Aug 2018 09:08 AM
    Watching this thread with great interest. I have a '12 Wide Glide. Front end needs improvement. 


  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 286
    Cairns FNQ
    Stage 1 Poster Ken in Cairns
    18 Aug 2018 11:27 AM
    I'll let you know how it goes Smokey, but I think I'll probably go with what Hilly suggested, as it is pretty much what I stated off thinking, though I wasn't going to to elite Olin's then, more high middle quality, but I'm waiting for a reply from Howard about the Olin units, so I'll see what they cost and go from there.

    Looking at the fork tube replacements at the moment, the difference between cheap quality and better quality doesn't look like that much. But I'm not sure which is which, maybe some one will clue me up as to which fork tubes are good and which ones are to be avoided, I don't see the point in doing all the work and having soft tubes that over flex etc.

    Also looking at what single rate spring to run, I'm guessing there isn't much between them as long as you get the correct weight ratio.
    Bit limited communications wise for the next 2 1/2 weeks, no phone and patchy internet, but I'm searching the best I can.

    Cheers
    Ken

  • Steve L Posts: 1248
    Gold Coast
    Performance Poster Steve L
    18 Aug 2018 04:38 PM
    Mate give Joe at Ride Dynamics a call and have a chat. He is at Yatala which is Brisbane southside. He only does bike suspension in his shop and also does a lot of race bike stuff. He did my Street Glide and can help sort you out even on a budget.
  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 286
    Cairns FNQ
    Stage 1 Poster Ken in Cairns
    18 Aug 2018 05:51 PM
    Thanks Steve I will, got a number ?

    Cheers
    Ken
  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 286
    Cairns FNQ
    Stage 1 Poster Ken in Cairns
    18 Aug 2018 06:29 PM
    Thanks Hilly.
    Also going to ring Suspension R US and Race Tech.

    Anyone point me in the right direction for the fork tubes brand wise ?

    Cheers
    Ken

  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 286
    Cairns FNQ
    Stage 1 Poster Ken in Cairns
    18 Aug 2018 08:12 PM
    Yeah gonna price them too Hilly.
    Rollies stock good aftermarket units for 600 a pair and racetec have the black diamond ones for about 400.
     I'm going to email my local HD dealer for a price on oem and order the brake master and caliper kits. Have the old brake light switch problem because the front master cylinder isn't fully retracting.
    Cheers 
    Ken 
  • Steve L Posts: 1248
    Gold Coast
    Performance Poster Steve L
    19 Aug 2018 07:37 AM
    Quoting Ken in Cairns on 18 Aug 2018 05:51 PM
    Thanks Steve I will, got a number ?

    Cheers
    Ken
    0433571482
  • brash Posts: 618
    Performance Poster brash
    19 Aug 2018 03:29 PM
    Quoting Ken in Cairns on 18 Aug 2018 06:29 PM
    Thanks Hilly.
    Also going to ring Suspension R US and Race Tech.

    Anyone point me in the right direction for the fork tubes brand wise ?

    Cheers
    Ken

    Top Line tubes.

    Does DLC and TiNi coatings mostly but will have good old chrome.

    https://toplinetubes.myshopify.com/
  • Smokey61 Posts: 663
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    06 Sep 2018 10:51 AM
    I'm guessing the cartridge emulators aren't available for 2" over stock Wide Glide forks?
  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 286
    Cairns FNQ
    Stage 1 Poster Ken in Cairns
    06 Sep 2018 05:47 PM
    They should be the same ones Smokey, it is the id of the tube that counts, the spring length is longer though 380mm vs 350mm.
    Going to ship the lower legs to Suspensions r us so they can set them all up, along with a strip and powdercoat. They like to fit the emulators to ensure the fit up seals correctly. Will also be tested and set on the suspension dyno. Going with the Nitron non piggy  back shocks for just over a grand. I just can't justify  the more expensive  1700 buck ones for what I need. If I need more on the future then I'll know.
    Give them a call mate, he was very helpful.
    Cheers Ken 
  • Fxdfsteve Posts: 2
    Stock Poster Fxdfsteve
    06 Oct 2018 09:44 AM
    Quoting Ken in Cairns on 14 Aug 2018 01:59 PM

    Hi everyone, thinking it’s time I did some more work on the bike.

    I want to tackle the suspension now, as that is where it is now lacking the most now.

     So after going back to nearly page one of the dyna forum pages and reading suspension threads on this and other forums till my eyes bled, I’m not sure where I am now.

     

    I am considering fitting longer wide glide tubes to lift the front end up and gain some ground clearance, with 13 inch shocks on the back so the rack and trail doesn’t change too much. Is a guy up this way who has done it and said it was a vast improvement clearance wise, do a lot of mountain road riding with tight twisty bits up this way.

    When I get home I want to see what sag I currently have in the front as I’m pretty sure it is more than the 25 ~ 30 mm that seems to be recommended, and see how the clearance goes when I reset it, and check the oil height, still thinking it will be low, but I might not drag my heels going through a normal roundabout at 50 clicks.

     

    For the forks I was either going to go with either a cartridge insert or single rate springs (Traxton ?) for my weight and either the gold valve or Ricor Intiminators, which are easier to fit and do not alter the std damper rod.

     

    However I think the cost for a cartridge will probably lead me down the single rate spring route for the time being.

     

    As to the rear shocks, this is where I got REALLY lost.

     

    I was originally just going to go IKON (front fork spring as well), but then came upon all the reports on the Ricor, Hagon Nitro and the Gazi units, unfortunately higher cost units (Wilber’s, Olin etc) are not really on the cards due to budget constraints, I might be able to stretch the budget on the rears if I don’t do the wide glide tubes. However if I go the longer front tube I sort of need to do both ends together so keep the same geometry.

     

    Ricor have a sale on at the moment, shocks and the Intiminators for just over 1250 delivered (without the extra 10% gouging tax now imposed on everything imported), and that is probably the best value at the moment, provided the shocks are as good as later reports make out, there early ones were prone to seal failure from what I have read. Probably have to keep the stock duel rate springs till I can get the single rate replacements, not ideal but should be some improvement on the stock front end.

     

    Was a guy on the forum custom building Olin units in the states, but his posts were form 2011 and 2012, and I haven’t seen any later ones, even on the US forums.

     

    I had looked at the progressive suspension units, but am put off with the reports (on here) of the quality not being as good as it once was. Sort of heard about mixed results with the YSS units too.

     

    So I guess I’m asking has anyone have a direct comparison of the Ricor and Hagon Nitros vs the Gazi and Ikon models, or recently fitted them. From what I gather there isn’t much between the Ricor and Hagon units, main difference is the way they operate and manual vs auto adjustment system.

    The Gazi ones seem like they would be OK, but not sure about the looks, but the ride height adjustment is a plus.

     

    So I’m leaning towards either Rico or the Hagon units, but as I run saddle bags I believe I can’t fit piggyback style shocks, though a remote reservoir might work, depending on where and how they are mounted.

     

    Sorry for the long post, but I can’t expect an answer if I don’t let you all know what I’m thinking, and how I got there.

     

    Cheers

    Ken

    Hi Ken, don't go near ikon I have an fixed 09 with ikons on the back the bushings in these are crap to soft chew out ,and the shock can move off the bike ,I have ended up with Nylon bushes what a pain in the ass these things are , only 3 adjustments for spring ,i saw those gazi s  and they have bearing Bush's that move with the bike .if your shock moved straight up and down it wouldn't matter if the shock was mounted hard to the swingarm ,but if they are angled then they need to move , cant believe Harley jams them hard on the swing arm from New its bullshit  ,have a good look around at what's available there's better than ikon  out there' for the same money ,
  • manyanna Posts: 26
    Stock Poster manyanna
    09 Dec 2018 11:59 AM
    I'd buy Harley WG tubes not other brands. I bought 2 different brand sets out of the States and quality was ordinary. Last set I bought are genuine and top quality and good price.
  • DJP_120ci Posts: 154
    Stock Poster DJP_120ci
    09 Dec 2018 05:44 PM
    Quoting manyanna on 09 Dec 2018 11:59 AM
    I'd buy Harley WG tubes not other brands. I bought 2 different brand sets out of the States and quality was ordinary. Last set I bought are genuine and top quality and good price.
    Old thread but I’ll chime in anyways. 
    Someone else mentioned top line tubes, I just put a set on my street bob and the quality is top notch. 
    Ohlins nix22 cartridges installed as well. 

    HD Forums Australia - F9A20454-C558-412B-90A1-250FCA799D8A.jpeg

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  • brash Posts: 618
    Performance Poster brash
    10 Dec 2018 08:11 AM

    nice, I'm super happy with the NIX upgrade.


    Stupid me did the rear suspension first, that amplified how rubbish the front was and then did the front. Should have done it in one big purchase.

  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 286
    Cairns FNQ
    Stage 1 Poster Ken in Cairns
    10 Dec 2018 08:40 AM
    Thanks for the reports. I hoped to get it done when I get home in late January, but just had to spend a lot of my cash stash on other stuff going on.
    Hopefully it will happen around March.
    I will have to rethink going non OEM tubes. Was looking at the American Custom Cycle ones.

    Have  a few noggins for me over Christmas.
    Cheers Ken 
  • Berms777 Posts: 5
    Stock Poster Berms777
    19 Dec 2018 05:04 PM
    Quoting DJP_120ci on 15 Aug 2018 03:23 PM
    HD Forums Australia - IMG_4834.jpg

    Another happy customer with the ohlins, I can't recommend them enough, I would suggest saving the money a little longer and going this way you will not regret it. 
    I also have the ohlins cartridge kit on order and will be putting them in a set of DLC coated fork tubes. Not cheap by any means but by all accounts well worth the money. 

    "I have since gone to the Ohlins nix 22 cartrages, which are another level again but costly. If you go down this track you will need the wideglide tubes as they are made only for that length. Which as you would know is an extra 2 inches ( missus told me thats a must)

    Chriso, just to set the record straight this is no longer the case, Ohlins make kits for both the standard length and the wide glide tubes now. 

    Cheers.

    Thanks for posting the pic.  Must for reference,  can you please tell me exactly what model shocks these Ohlins are and what length you went with? Cheers
  • DJP_120ci Posts: 154
    Stock Poster DJP_120ci
    19 Dec 2018 09:07 PM
    Ohlins HD763 
    305mm/12” stock length
  • chriso Posts: 2782
    south canberra
    Forum Legend chriso
    02 Jan 2019 06:00 PM
    Got them on my dyna too.. ya won’t get better
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