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  • Onequickpuck Posts: 89
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    09 Oct 2018 07:50 PM

    I had one near tumble about after getting my Breakout.

    When the stand went down it didn't slide well on the bitumen, so it didn't engage the lock (and I didn't look to see).

    5 minutes later it started to roll over, but 4 of us were right there to catch it.

    I have hated and not trusted the thing ever since, but always look down to make sure I can see the engagement at the top.

    Once I see that I trust it.

    So on the weekend my missus parked her FXSE on a slope, with really rough bitumen.

    Whilst standing to the side of the bike getting her gear on, the bike just went WHAM and slammed her to the ground as it shot over on it's side!

    Mirror - toast

    Clutch lever - toast

    Custom Rear peg - toast

    Primary cover - toast

    Custom carved Derby cover - toast

    Fuel tank - sorta toast (scratched but not dented)


    Anyhow, I had already been researching the dilemma before and pretty much worked out that a Softail jiffy stand would help ensure a quicker/better engagement of the jiffy locking mechanism.

    So the query is......who has one (or even two) stock standard chrome or black Softail jiffy stands for sale??


    Flick me an email if you have anything -   mike@cqsteel.com.au





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  • fatbat Posts: 2652
    Forum Legend fatbat
    10 Oct 2018 06:25 AM
    Quoting Onequickpuck on 09 Oct 2018 07:50 PM

    I had one near tumble about after getting my Breakout.

    When the stand went down it didn't slide well on the bitumen, so it didn't engage the lock (and I didn't look to see).

    5 minutes later it started to roll over, but 4 of us were right there to catch it.

    I have hated and not trusted the thing ever since, but always look down to make sure I can see the engagement at the top.

    Once I see that I trust it.

    So on the weekend my missus parked her FXSE on a slope, with really rough bitumen.

    Whilst standing to the side of the bike getting her gear on, the bike just went WHAM and slammed her to the ground as it shot over on it's side!

    Mirror - toast

    Clutch lever - toast

    Custom Rear peg - toast

    Primary cover - toast

    Custom carved Derby cover - toast

    Fuel tank - sorta toast (scratched but not dented)


    Anyhow, I had already been researching the dilemma before and pretty much worked out that a Softail jiffy stand would help ensure a quicker/better engagement of the jiffy locking mechanism.

    So the query is......who has one (or even two) stock standard chrome or black Softail jiffy stands for sale??


    Flick me an email if you have anything -   mike@cqsteel.com.au





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    Not good that your wife's bike dropped and sustained damage. 

    As far as I know the jiffy stands you are after are already installed on your bikes. Harley call a side stand a jiffy stand. They work well once you know their limitation and how to use them properly. 
  • Onequickpuck Posts: 89
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    10 Oct 2018 08:22 AM

    The pic above is actually a mates 2012 Softail.

    The jiffy stands on the Breakouts are of the same design, but considerably shorter.

    They do work as designed, but sometimes on rough bitumen, they do not slide easily(due to the steep angle), and therefore don't always engage the lock on top.

    I try to make a habit of looking down to see the engagement, but it's pretty hard to see sometimes since it's underneath the shift lever pivot.


    The longer Softail stand will have more leverage, and more likely slide easier - causing the lock to engage more securely.


    I can get them from EasyR. I just thought somebody might have some parts floating around in the garage.

  • fatbat Posts: 2652
    Forum Legend fatbat
    10 Oct 2018 06:41 PM
    I understand what you're saying but the longer jiffy stand you want to replace with works rhe same way as the shorter one albeit with a slightly different placement of where you kick it out from. 

    The downside is that the longer jiffy stand makes your bike less stable on the stand as  there is less weight shifted across to the left. The bike is more secure on the shorter jiffy stand

    (added later): shorter jiffy stand intended for lower bikes perhaps like breakout and vrod and longer stand for higher bikes 
  • Onequickpuck Posts: 89
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    11 Oct 2018 12:18 AM

    I measured the lean on my mates softail, and I'm real comfortable with the security on it, as it actually leans over nearly the same as our Breakouts.


    I ordered a couple Softail kickstands from EasyR. Will report back with the fit and function in a few days.

    Cheers

  • redrider Posts: 13
    Stock Poster redrider
    17 Oct 2018 12:40 AM
    If your bikes jiffy stand and forward controls are the same as the one pictured and you are changing to the jiffy stand leg that looks longer with less downward length,  I'm pretty sure you will have to change your forward control mount aswell, the actual jiffy stand mounts differently because of the different design 
  • Onequickpuck Posts: 89
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    17 Oct 2018 08:34 AM

    The forward control mounts are identical between the Breakout and the Softail.

    I put the '07 - UP Softail jiffy stands on last night.

    They are perfect, and MUCH improved locking as they start to lock as soon as you start to lean the bike.

    They also slide easier across the bitumen.

    Will post up some pics later.


    There is a slight loss of angle clearance loss, and the kickstand sticks out about 20mm past the lowest part of the Primary.

    if you like to drag your primary in the corners, the Softail kickstand aint for you :)

    At least you'll drag a $85. kickstand instead of a $285. Primary cover LOL

  • fatbat Posts: 2652
    Forum Legend fatbat
    17 Oct 2018 11:11 AM
    Good outcome mate. Glad it worked out to your plan 
  • Onequickpuck Posts: 89
    Stock Poster Onequickpuck
    17 Oct 2018 11:16 AM
    Some of the pics are a bit ordinary, but here's the deal.....
     the 2007 and Up Softail Jiffy Stand is about 90mm longer (not taller), than the Breakout Jiffy stand. It starts to slide earlier as you set it over - engaging the jiffy lock sooner. This gives a more secure lockup instead of the false sense of security sometimes given by the Breakout stand. Mine has nearly tumbled from the original stand, and my missus fell a couple weeks ago. I got these from EasyR for $85. each and love them! Still need to source the rubber bumper as it is not the same, but happy for now with a small rubber adhesive on the bottom of primary.


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