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  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    08 Nov 2018 10:35 PM
    Never really looked at this function before for road tuning, got told once that it was shit and just ignored it, was having a read today and it strikes me I could do much the same as I used to with TTS, that is mount a tablet on the bike and fill the cells on the histogram as much as possible, anyone tried to use it this way? I realise it's not as comprehensive as TTS but it's got to be better than just collecting data on the VCI, I have the orange 08 variety SEPST, might give it a crack this weekend if it's feasible, anyone tried it?
  • 98fxstc Posts: 258
    Blackmans Bay,Tasmania
    Stage 1 Poster 98fxstc
    09 Nov 2018 07:11 AM
    Sounds like it should be ok in theory.
    You will be limited by the vci.
    Would certainly be useful for tuning idle and higher kPa at low RPM
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    09 Nov 2018 07:22 AM
    I asked the same question on another forum and Jason said he has done it that way on a trike and it works, let you know how I go. 
    On a different matter I see our mate has PV on his new sled, be interested to hear what he makes of it.
  • 98fxstc Posts: 258
    Blackmans Bay,Tasmania
    Stage 1 Poster 98fxstc
    09 Nov 2018 10:31 AM
    Quoting Hilly on 09 Nov 2018 07:22 AM
    I asked the same question on another forum and Jason said he has done it that way on a trike and it works, let you know how I go. 
    On a different matter I see our mate has PV on his new sled, be interested to hear what he makes of it.
    He is happy to embrace the technology, but wants the unit gone from the bars.  :)
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    09 Nov 2018 11:21 AM
    Quoting Hilly on 09 Nov 2018 07:22 AM
    I asked the same question on another forum and Jason said he has done it that way on a trike and it works, let you know how I go. 
    On a different matter I see our mate has PV on his new sled, be interested to hear what he makes of it.
    Quoting 98fxstc on 09 Nov 2018 10:31 AMedited: 09 Nov 2018 10:34 AM
    He is happy to embrace the technology, but wants the unit gone from the bars.  :)
    Haha, yes it's rather blingy, beautiful bike though, the paint is something special.
  • fatslim Posts: 175
    Stock Poster fatslim
    09 Nov 2018 04:27 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 09 Nov 2018 07:22 AM
    I asked the same question on another forum and Jason said he has done it that way on a trike and it works, let you know how I go. 
    On a different matter I see our mate has PV on his new sled, be interested to hear what he makes of it.
    Quoting 98fxstc on 09 Nov 2018 10:31 AMedited: 09 Nov 2018 10:34 AM
    He is happy to embrace the technology, but wants the unit gone from the bars.  :)
    Its currently in a box in my desk.
    Very likely to stay there until tuning time comes. Even comes with widebands.
    Now I need a friggin' external CD drive just to operate the PV. 
    What a joke, it's old technology that requires a computer with a CD drive. 
    Even HD managed to allow downloads.
  • 98fxstc Posts: 258
    Blackmans Bay,Tasmania
    Stage 1 Poster 98fxstc
    09 Nov 2018 04:50 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 09 Nov 2018 07:22 AM
    I asked the same question on another forum and Jason said he has done it that way on a trike and it works, let you know how I go. 
    On a different matter I see our mate has PV on his new sled, be interested to hear what he makes of it.
    Quoting 98fxstc on 09 Nov 2018 10:31 AMedited: 09 Nov 2018 10:34 AM
    He is happy to embrace the technology, but wants the unit gone from the bars.  :)
    Quoting fatslim on 09 Nov 2018 04:27 PMedited: 09 Nov 2018 04:46 PM
    Its currently in a box in my desk.
    Very likely to stay there until tuning time comes. Even comes with widebands.
    Now I need a friggin' external CD drive just to operate the PV. 
    What a joke, it's old technology that requires a computer with a CD drive. 
    Even HD managed to allow downloads.
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  • fatslim Posts: 175
    Stock Poster fatslim
    09 Nov 2018 04:51 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 08 Nov 2018 10:35 PM
    Never really looked at this function before for road tuning, got told once that it was shit and just ignored it, was having a read today and it strikes me I could do much the same as I used to with TTS, that is mount a tablet on the bike and fill the cells on the histogram as much as possible, anyone tried to use it this way? I realise it's not as comprehensive as TTS but it's got to be better than just collecting data on the VCI, I have the orange 08 variety SEPST, might give it a crack this weekend if it's feasible, anyone tried it?
    I've tried it with the cable, tethered to the bike lift.
    Used to look at idle VEs and Timing as well as other parameters.
    Reckon it's doable on the run.
    Keeping your eyes on the road....well, that's up to you and your straight roads.

    Now, if you had an XB Buell, you could have it bluetoothed to a phone on your bars and run live data on ECDdroid.
    For free!
    BUT, the ole paintshaker plays havoc with the phone at idle ;-)
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    09 Nov 2018 04:54 PM
    Quoting 98fxstc on 09 Nov 2018 10:31 AMedited: 09 Nov 2018 10:34 AM
    He is happy to embrace the technology, but wants the unit gone from the bars.  :)
    Quoting fatslim on 09 Nov 2018 04:27 PMedited: 09 Nov 2018 04:46 PM
    Its currently in a box in my desk.
    Very likely to stay there until tuning time comes. Even comes with widebands.
    Now I need a friggin' external CD drive just to operate the PV. 
    What a joke, it's old technology that requires a computer with a CD drive. 
    Even HD managed to allow downloads.
    Quoting 98fxstc on 09 Nov 2018 04:50 PM
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    But PV is the best isn't it?
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    09 Nov 2018 04:59 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 08 Nov 2018 10:35 PM
    Never really looked at this function before for road tuning, got told once that it was shit and just ignored it, was having a read today and it strikes me I could do much the same as I used to with TTS, that is mount a tablet on the bike and fill the cells on the histogram as much as possible, anyone tried to use it this way? I realise it's not as comprehensive as TTS but it's got to be better than just collecting data on the VCI, I have the orange 08 variety SEPST, might give it a crack this weekend if it's feasible, anyone tried it?
    Quoting fatslim on 09 Nov 2018 04:51 PMedited: 09 Nov 2018 07:55 PM
    I've tried it with the cable, tethered to the bike lift.
    Used to look at idle VEs and Timing as well as other parameters.
    Reckon it's doable on the run.
    Keeping your eyes on the road....well, that's up to you and your straight roads.

    Now, if you had an XB Buell, you could have it bluetoothed to a phone on your bars and run live data on ECDdroid.
    For free!
    BUT, the ole paintshaker plays havoc with the phone at idle ;-)
    True that, my phone has more capacity and speed than my tablet (even though it's an evil hang up pixal)and this tablet is about fucked anyway but I'm making some brackets now to give it a whirl, speed things up at minimum.
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    09 Nov 2018 05:19 PM
    Think I've got it sorted, try it out tomorrow if it ain't raining, I hope it is raining but I'll believe it when I see it!

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  • Baloffski Posts: 1328
    Victoria
    Performance Poster Baloffski
    09 Nov 2018 05:39 PM
    Hilly, call you "handy Hilly" . 
    That is a great concept, and like a good idea for a play to keep busy, and interested.
    They drill holes or bulletsholes, now you Queenslander's". But it looks like you got a handle on it?
    Where you mounting ya target, bars, more rubber comes to mind help insulating.
    Let us know how you go, good stuff, as usual.
  • fatbat Posts: 2677
    Forum Legend fatbat
    09 Nov 2018 06:14 PM
    Hilly this is how I imagine you look. Intended positively haha 

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  • Lushy Posts: 182
    Stock Poster Lushy
    09 Nov 2018 06:14 PM
    What a joke, it's old technology that requires a computer with a CD drive.
    Even HD managed to allow downloads.




    I may be missing something,I just used my dealer PV to tune a guys trike. It worked out pretty well, I mounted the PV on the bars and rode about hitting cells with carefree abandon. Came back to the shop and applied the learning etc. I did not have to plug into a CD drive??? 
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    09 Nov 2018 06:37 PM
    Quoting fatbat on 09 Nov 2018 06:14 PM
    Hilly this is how I imagine you look. Intended positively haha 

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    Love it mate, it was that be fucked moment for sure
  • fatslim Posts: 175
    Stock Poster fatslim
    09 Nov 2018 07:46 PM
    Quoting Lushy on 09 Nov 2018 06:14 PMedited: 09 Nov 2018 06:15 PM
    What a joke, it's old technology that requires a computer with a CD drive.
    Even HD managed to allow downloads.




    I may be missing something,I just used my dealer PV to tune a guys trike. It worked out pretty well, I mounted the PV on the bars and rode about hitting cells with carefree abandon. Came back to the shop and applied the learning etc. I did not have to plug into a CD drive??? 
    To install the PV software....
    it is on a CD, which requires loading into a computer.
    Though, it does appear it can be downloaded direct.
     The PO perhaps was not aware....I was advised I'd need a CD drive.
    I can see now, from the instructions the software can be loaded directly from the internet.

    I don't have a dealer PV, am a mere mortal.
    Thanks for making me think.
  • fatslim Posts: 175
    Stock Poster fatslim
    09 Nov 2018 07:49 PM
    Quoting fatslim on 09 Nov 2018 04:27 PMedited: 09 Nov 2018 04:46 PM
    Its currently in a box in my desk.
    Very likely to stay there until tuning time comes. Even comes with widebands.
    Now I need a friggin' external CD drive just to operate the PV. 
    What a joke, it's old technology that requires a computer with a CD drive. 
    Even HD managed to allow downloads.
    Quoting 98fxstc on 09 Nov 2018 04:50 PM
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    Quoting Hilly on 09 Nov 2018 04:54 PM
    But PV is the best isn't it?
    fark nose.

  • Smokey61 Posts: 607
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    09 Nov 2018 08:01 PM
    I've been away from Harleys for 25 years, what's a PV?
  • 98fxstc Posts: 258
    Blackmans Bay,Tasmania
    Stage 1 Poster 98fxstc
    10 Nov 2018 08:01 AM
    Quoting Smokey61 on 09 Nov 2018 08:01 PM
    I've been away from Harleys for 25 years, what's a PV?
    PV
    running second to TTS  :)
    an efi tuning system
  • fatbat Posts: 2677
    Forum Legend fatbat
    10 Nov 2018 08:23 AM
    Power vision
    Made by dyno jet who made the power commander 
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