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  • rodders Posts: 5709
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    11 Jan 2019 11:44 PM

    Bloke I know recently shelled out $75k on a new Ford Mustang. Not the shit box 2 star safety rated Stang from a few years ago. He bought the newest 2019 model shit box with the improved 3 star safety rating.

    5 stars in the maximum safety rating, you know, like the $15k Hyundai and many/most other makes & model cars get.

    I wasn't impressed but wasn't surprised when he recently took me for a spin and the Mustang badge on the dash fell into my lap. LOL.

    Of more serious concern is the car, only a month or so old, is now at the dealers in un-roadworthy condition due to an airbag issue. Ford can't tell him when it will be back on the road as there are no parts in Australia.

    FFS I'm bewildered as to why anyone buys these shit boxes. You may have seen elsewhere in this section Auto Experts review on the previous model. Seems Ford has learnt nothing and has no issue is accepting $75k from customers for a car with serious safety issues.

    So it must be true...Ford stands for Fixed Or Repaired Daily. At least that's better than First On Rubbish Dump.

    It will be interesting to see the outcome. I'll keep y'all posted with updates.


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  • Wideglider Posts: 404
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    12 Jan 2019 12:18 AM
    Hey Rodders, this Mustang is just a show-pony. The reason people buy them is obviously purely for the look - just like many of the Harley-based builds you see occasionally for sale (trouble on the first corner).
  • WideglidingNZ Posts: 116
    Stock Poster WideglidingNZ
    12 Jan 2019 07:43 AM
    Quoting rodders on 11 Jan 2019 11:44 PMedited: 11 Jan 2019 11:48 PM

    Bloke I know recently shelled out $75k on a new Ford Mustang. Not the shit box 2 star safety rated Stang from a few years ago. He bought the newest 2019 model shit box with the improved 3 star safety rating.

    5 stars in the maximum safety rating, you know, like the $15k Hyundai and many/most other makes & model cars get.

    I wasn't impressed but wasn't surprised when he recently took me for a spin and the Mustang badge on the dash fell into my lap. LOL.

    Of more serious concern is the car, only a month or so old, is now at the dealers in un-roadworthy condition due to an airbag issue. Ford can't tell him when it will be back on the road as there are no parts in Australia.

    FFS I'm bewildered as to why anyone buys these shit boxes. You may have seen elsewhere in this section Auto Experts review on the previous model. Seems Ford has learnt nothing and has no issue is accepting $75k from customers for a car with serious safety issues.

    So it must be true...Ford stands for Fixed Or Repaired Daily. At least that's better than First On Rubbish Dump.

    It will be interesting to see the outcome. I'll keep y'all posted with updates.


    HD Forums Australia - Ford Mustang 2019.jpg


    I wonder if you drive a Holden by any chance? I've seen a few shit box Commodores also (HSV included) sorry love the mighty Ford (mainly Falcons though) 
  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1506
    Castlemaine
    Motor Head Geoff3DMN
    12 Jan 2019 10:31 AM
    People buy them because Holden and Ford no longer sell any other V8 cars in Australia.

    There are a few very expensive V8 euro cars but they're LOTS more expensive than $75k and the Japanese/Korean performance cars are mostly turbo 4s or sometimes 6s.

    If you like that V8 rumble... and you want new... and you're spending sub $100k there are basically zero alternatives to the Stang (and it looks good too).


  • wadewilson Posts: 16
    SA
    Stock Poster wadewilson
    12 Jan 2019 10:51 AM

    Hey Rodders, you have a couple of superfluous words in the heading. Being a Ford it is naturally a Shit Box. ;)


    OK all you Ford lovers settle down it is a joke...

  • speedzter Posts: 1700
    The 'Rat
    Motor Head speedzter
    12 Jan 2019 11:05 AM
    A mate bought one when they first were released in RHD.
    He loved it and has had zero problems, and he recently sold it and upgraded to the new model.

    If your really worried about safety ratings, maybe you shouldn't be riding .
    The ANCAP rating can be a bit misleading.
    One area the Mustang is let down big time is in child safety protection, (15 out of 49 points)  but it's a 2 door sports car !
  • tussuck Posts: 1538
    Melbourne
    Motor Head tussuck
    12 Jan 2019 12:33 PM
    I used to like these cars...BUT now every Tom Dick and Harry is driving one they are just too common; and scream wannabe.
  • VirtualT Posts: 278
    Yanchep
    Stage 1 Poster VirtualT
    12 Jan 2019 12:39 PM
    I hired a mustang convertible in the states last year and did a heap of miles in it. I'm not a Ford man as such but I was really impressed.
    I'm 6'2 and it was really comfortable for long distance driving, plenty of leg and head room and we could fit 2 large suitcases in the trunk (just).
    Plenty of power in the hills and it handled really well for a big car.
  • Sparra Posts: 1933
    Motor Head Sparra
    12 Jan 2019 03:09 PM
    Quoting tussuck on 12 Jan 2019 12:33 PM
    I used to like these cars...BUT now every Tom Dick and Harry is driving one they are just too common; and scream wannabe.
    A bit like Harleys...not like back in the 70's and 80's...
  • paulybronco Posts: 10705
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    12 Jan 2019 04:40 PM
    My brother in law has a 2016 manual one. Been a passenger in it and seems to go ok, he uses his as a daily driver , done 60k no issues at all. I Would buy one but not a manual for around town 
  • tussuck Posts: 1538
    Melbourne
    Motor Head tussuck
    12 Jan 2019 06:07 PM
    Quoting tussuck on 12 Jan 2019 12:33 PM
    I used to like these cars...BUT now every Tom Dick and Harry is driving one they are just too common; and scream wannabe.
    Quoting Sparra on 12 Jan 2019 03:09 PM
    A bit like Harleys...not like back in the 70's and 80's...
    Got to agree with you there too!  I was riding back in the 80's before the yuppies thought they would look cute on a hog...lol
  • JFE Posts: 1264
    NSW
    Performance Poster JFE
    12 Jan 2019 08:25 PM
    I wouldn’t buy a car that has such a poor safety rating but brother, what do you care about a 2-3 star rating — you ride a motorcycle! How many ANCAP stars your HD come with? As long as no family in the car (no vomiting kids = win!).

    Love my Ford Ranger so far. Be great to try a 8-cylinder Mustang one day but not really my go.
  • paulybronco Posts: 10705
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    12 Jan 2019 10:00 PM
    Quoting JFE on 12 Jan 2019 08:25 PM
    I wouldn’t buy a car that has such a poor safety rating but brother, what do you care about a 2-3 star rating — you ride a motorcycle! How many ANCAP stars your HD come with? As long as no family in the car (no vomiting kids = win!).

    Love my Ford Ranger so far. Be great to try a 8-cylinder Mustang one day but not really my go.
    LOL Recon my body would cope with a small stumble in the car park on my bike but after that its a straight out FAIL
  • rodders Posts: 5709
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    13 Jan 2019 12:51 PM
    Good reading so far...lol.
    The main point I'm making is the poor blokes new car is off the road after only a month of ownership and to date has no ETA as to when it will be " safe" to drive again.

    In this day & age you'd reckon there would be a minimum of 4 or 5 star safety in this country.

    It's true about motorcycle safety stars. They don't have any but isn't ABS now mandatory on all new road bikes?
  • paulybronco Posts: 10705
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    13 Jan 2019 02:01 PM
    Quoting rodders on 13 Jan 2019 12:51 PM
    Good reading so far...lol.
    The main point I'm making is the poor blokes new car is off the road after only a month of ownership and to date has no ETA as to when it will be " safe" to drive again.

    In this day & age you'd reckon there would be a minimum of 4 or 5 star safety in this country.

    It's true about motorcycle safety stars. They don't have any but isn't ABS now mandatory on all new road bikes?
    No ABS is not a requirement
  • speedzter Posts: 1700
    The 'Rat
    Motor Head speedzter
    13 Jan 2019 02:16 PM
     Quoting rodders on 13 Jan 2019 12:51 PM
    The main point I'm making is the poor blokes new car is off the road after only a month of ownership and to date has no ETA as to when it will be " safe" to drive again.


    Yes, that would suck. Warranty is crap in this country.
    Wouldn't you think they would just air freight the parts to get him back on the road !!
  • JFE Posts: 1264
    NSW
    Performance Poster JFE
    13 Jan 2019 02:41 PM
    Sucks to be without a car. A real inconvenience for most. I’d hate to be in that situation.

    Was the airbag involved related to the Takata issue (therefore not Ford’s fault) or is this something else? If something else that is very poor and potentially worrisome for other owners.

    My Ford service promise that you’d get a loan car while they worked on yours recently turned into ‘oh, you need to book at least two weeks out’. Great.
  • beaglebasher Posts: 821
    Performance Poster beaglebasher
    14 Jan 2019 07:35 PM
    Am I missing something here?  I didn't buy my bike cos it was the best engineered machine available. I  bought it cos I liked the fuckin thing.

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2338
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    14 Jan 2019 07:54 PM
    here's me laughing a biker with a safety rating fettish, me I'm a survivor, I drove an EH ute three on the tree 179 cubic inch red motor ( no safety rating and I lived ) I road on the back of my dad's 1955 Chevy ten tone truck holding onto back board standing up, I lived. I like the look of the new stang's , not too sure if I like the style V8 they have but I like the look . all Harley riders the same they like the look & ignore Joe Public ( they made reliable bike's for Joe.
    sorry about mates bad luck I've no first hand knowledge on what they are like. but any car dealer employ broom sweeper type spanner men, not real quick at thinking. so need to be lucky to get a new car that just needs oil changed as they can do that ok.

  • rodders Posts: 5709
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    14 Jan 2019 07:56 PM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 12 Jan 2019 10:31 AMedited: 13 Jan 2019 01:01 PM
    People buy them because Holden and Ford no longer sell any other V8 cars in Australia.

    There are a few very expensive V8 euro cars but they're LOTS more expensive than $75k and the Japanese/Korean performance cars are mostly turbo 4s or sometimes 6s.

    If you like that V8 rumble... and you want new... and you're spending sub $100k there are basically zero alternatives to the Stang (and it looks good too).


    Sad but true Geoff.

    Although if you have deeper pockets you might be able to grab a HSV converted Chevy Camaro. It costs $20k more than a similar specked Mustang but still comes in under the $100k mark.

    I reckon the Stangs look good and the latest models with the adjustable exhaust notes sound good too. Fit and finish seems ok, ignoring the badge that fell into my lap....LOL.


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