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  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    14 Jan 2019 08:12 PM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 12 Jan 2019 10:31 AMedited: 13 Jan 2019 01:01 PM
    People buy them because Holden and Ford no longer sell any other V8 cars in Australia.

    There are a few very expensive V8 euro cars but they're LOTS more expensive than $75k and the Japanese/Korean performance cars are mostly turbo 4s or sometimes 6s.

    If you like that V8 rumble... and you want new... and you're spending sub $100k there are basically zero alternatives to the Stang (and it looks good too).


    Quoting rodders on 14 Jan 2019 07:56 PM

    Sad but true Geoff.

    Although if you have deeper pockets you might be able to grab a HSV converted Chevy Camaro. It costs $20k more than a similar specked Mustang but still comes in under the $100k mark.

    I reckon the Stangs look good and the latest models with the adjustable exhaust notes sound good too. Fit and finish seems ok, ignoring the badge that fell into my lap....LOL.


    have not seen the HSV chevy yet sounds good , I'm looking forward to seeing the new race this year what's it called now?

  • Smokey61 Posts: 814
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    14 Jan 2019 10:04 PM
    A bloke I knew bought a new Mustang, got a flat out of town, no spare. None. Had to wait three hours for tray truck.

    A few months ago I bought myself an immaculate one owner, regularly serviced '12 VE II SS Commy V8 manual with 30,000kms for $20K. And it has a spare. I'm happy.
  • paulybronco Posts: 13332
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    14 Jan 2019 10:37 PM
    Quoting Smokey61 on 14 Jan 2019 10:04 PM
    A bloke I knew bought a new Mustang, got a flat out of town, no spare. None. Had to wait three hours for tray truck.

    A few months ago I bought myself an immaculate one owner, regularly serviced '12 VE II SS Commy V8 manual with 30,000kms for $20K. And it has a spare. I'm happy.
    Plenty of new cars come without a spare tyre nowadays , more come with a space saver and very few come with a full size spare
  • rodders Posts: 5840
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    15 Jan 2019 12:30 AM
    Quoting Smokey61 on 14 Jan 2019 10:04 PM
    A bloke I knew bought a new Mustang, got a flat out of town, no spare. None. Had to wait three hours for tray truck.

    A few months ago I bought myself an immaculate one owner, regularly serviced '12 VE II SS Commy V8 manual with 30,000kms for $20K. And it has a spare. I'm happy.

    Perhaps you and I know the same bloke? Nah...doubt it.

    Same thing happened to my mate. Only had 700kms on the odo when he got a nail in the rear tyre.

    Ford...being the generous soles that they are don't supply a spare wheel/tyre.

    You get an inflation kit instead which consists of a tyre sealing foam and compressor unit. Didn't work so ol mate waited for a tow. The tyre/wheel was full of foam which didn't seal as intended meaning a new tyre had to be fitted.

    $600 for the tyre,

    $200 for the tow

    $150 for a replacement genuine Ford inflation kit. You know, so it can fail again next time he gets a flat.

    Total $950.

    Like I said earlier, I'm bewildered as to why anyone buys these shit boxes.

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    15 Jan 2019 08:20 AM
    the space saver what a joke! & the repair kit that you need a lot of luck to work, but hey, they bought the car like that without questioning or looking to check what they had. that might work in some country's but I've never thought it was right for Australia where can drive vast distances. also some tyres seem to attract nails others don't.
    so how many have had flats on there Harleys & what did you do? what distance per year do you ride? I think I average about 20,000k a year on the Harley, it used to be a lot higher. but only had a few flats in all those k's & places I road but only once I could not repair ( glass slashed the tyre.
  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1532
    Castlemaine
    Motor Head Geoff3DMN
    15 Jan 2019 08:34 AM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 15 Jan 2019 08:20 AM
    the space saver what a joke! & the repair kit that you need a lot of luck to work, but hey, they bought the car like that without questioning or looking to check what they had. that might work in some country's but I've never thought it was right for Australia where can drive vast distances. also some tyres seem to attract nails others don't.
    so how many have had flats on there Harleys & what did you do? what distance per year do you ride? I think I average about 20,000k a year on the Harley, it used to be a lot higher. but only had a few flats in all those k's & places I road but only once I could not repair ( glass slashed the tyre.

    I've had 1 flat on the Harley and one on the KLR650 in the last 5 years (I had the KLR before the V-Strom), both times I called RACV roadside assist and sat by the side of the road listening to the pocket radio I carry in the bike pannier when I travel, drinking the 'emergency' water I make sure is also in the pannier (and fresh) before each trip.

    The 1st time they were there in 45 minutes, the second time it took about 2 hours but it was between christmas day and new years day so I'll give them a pass on that one.

    If I was outside of mobile phone range then I'd drag out the after market tyre repair kit and have a go at plugging the tyre then use the gas cartridges to get some air in it but fucked if I'm going to bother with that by the side of the road for a temporary fix when I don't have to.  I'd rather let a stealer do a permanent fix or fit a new tyre if needed.
  • rodders Posts: 5840
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    15 Jan 2019 12:31 PM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 15 Jan 2019 08:20 AM
    the space saver what a joke! & the repair kit that you need a lot of luck to work, but hey, they bought the car like that without questioning or looking to check what they had. that might work in some country's but I've never thought it was right for Australia where can drive vast distances. also some tyres seem to attract nails others don't.
    so how many have had flats on there Harleys & what did you do? what distance per year do you ride? I think I average about 20,000k a year on the Harley, it used to be a lot higher. but only had a few flats in all those k's & places I road but only once I could not repair ( glass slashed the tyre.

    I've had a couple of rear punctures on my Harley. The first time it still had the original wire wheels so I was stuck waiting for the RACV 2 hours for the truck to arrive and as the shop had shut by then it was towed to a mates house. Next day it was picked up and taken to the shop for a new tube to be fitted. That stuffed my long weekend ride so soon after I pissed off the wire wheels and got alloy wheels with tubeless tyres.

    The next rear flat was with the new wheels. Used a plug repair kit on the side of the road and was mobile again in 15 minutes. These are great but only work on tubeless tyres.

  • Smokey61 Posts: 814
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    15 Jan 2019 12:52 PM
    HD Forums Australia - flattyre_1.jpg

    In my day, when we got a flat, we fixed it.

  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1532
    Castlemaine
    Motor Head Geoff3DMN
    16 Jan 2019 08:39 AM
    Quoting Smokey61 on 15 Jan 2019 12:52 PM
    HD Forums Australia - flattyre_1.jpg

    In my day, when we got a flat, we fixed it.

    Yeah... I remember doing that, but I'm old now... got congestive heart failure and arthritis.

    To be honest I'm lucky to be still riding, so I figure if the bit I have to give up is changing tyres then I'm ok with that.
  • Smitthy Posts: 18
    Stock Poster Smitthy
    17 Jan 2019 06:52 PM
    I am on my second Mustang, no issues and they cop an absolute flogging....I was a long time Turbo Falcon owner and was not happy when production stopped but the Mustang has turned out to be a great alternative.
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    18 Jan 2019 09:16 AM
    Quoting Smitthy on 17 Jan 2019 06:52 PM
    I am on my second Mustang, no issues and they cop an absolute flogging....I was a long time Turbo Falcon owner and was not happy when production stopped but the Mustang has turned out to be a great alternative.
    Good for you smithy!! yeh the turbo 6 pack was a strong motor!
    Is your mustang's V8's?
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    18 Jan 2019 09:17 AM
    Quoting Smokey61 on 15 Jan 2019 12:52 PM
    HD Forums Australia - flattyre_1.jpg

    In my day, when we got a flat, we fixed it.

    Well done Smokey61!
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    18 Jan 2019 09:25 AM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 15 Jan 2019 08:20 AM
    the space saver what a joke! & the repair kit that you need a lot of luck to work, but hey, they bought the car like that without questioning or looking to check what they had. that might work in some country's but I've never thought it was right for Australia where can drive vast distances. also some tyres seem to attract nails others don't.
    so how many have had flats on there Harleys & what did you do? what distance per year do you ride? I think I average about 20,000k a year on the Harley, it used to be a lot higher. but only had a few flats in all those k's & places I road but only once I could not repair ( glass slashed the tyre.
    Quoting rodders on 15 Jan 2019 12:31 PMedited: 15 Jan 2019 12:36 PM

    I've had a couple of rear punctures on my Harley. The first time it still had the original wire wheels so I was stuck waiting for the RACV 2 hours for the truck to arrive and as the shop had shut by then it was towed to a mates house. Next day it was picked up and taken to the shop for a new tube to be fitted. That stuffed my long weekend ride so soon after I pissed off the wire wheels and got alloy wheels with tubeless tyres.

    The next rear flat was with the new wheels. Used a plug repair kit on the side of the road and was mobile again in 15 minutes. These are great but only work on tubeless tyres.

    hey rodders, yes I'm on original 03 year spoke wheels myself. I would like to set my spoke wheels up like my mountain bike ( has spoke wheels & run them tubeless ) the sealer I use on the mountain bike amazing stuff. I'll just tape over the spokes to seal that area & add sealer every 6 months. can just carry a few tubes of it and a gas bottle of air. if get a flat this stuff seals straight off. need to check if will work with the bike.
     ( motor bike )

  • Smitthy Posts: 18
    Stock Poster Smitthy
    19 Jan 2019 02:59 PM
    Quoting Smitthy on 17 Jan 2019 06:52 PM
    I am on my second Mustang, no issues and they cop an absolute flogging....I was a long time Turbo Falcon owner and was not happy when production stopped but the Mustang has turned out to be a great alternative.
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 18 Jan 2019 09:16 AM
    Good for you smithy!! yeh the turbo 6 pack was a strong motor!
    Is your mustang's V8's?
    Yea mate V8s..best car to date was my G6ET should have kept it...cheers.
  • rodders Posts: 5840
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    20 Jan 2019 06:54 PM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 15 Jan 2019 08:20 AM
    the space saver what a joke! & the repair kit that you need a lot of luck to work, but hey, they bought the car like that without questioning or looking to check what they had. that might work in some country's but I've never thought it was right for Australia where can drive vast distances. also some tyres seem to attract nails others don't.
    so how many have had flats on there Harleys & what did you do? what distance per year do you ride? I think I average about 20,000k a year on the Harley, it used to be a lot higher. but only had a few flats in all those k's & places I road but only once I could not repair ( glass slashed the tyre.
    Quoting rodders on 15 Jan 2019 12:31 PMedited: 15 Jan 2019 12:36 PM

    I've had a couple of rear punctures on my Harley. The first time it still had the original wire wheels so I was stuck waiting for the RACV 2 hours for the truck to arrive and as the shop had shut by then it was towed to a mates house. Next day it was picked up and taken to the shop for a new tube to be fitted. That stuffed my long weekend ride so soon after I pissed off the wire wheels and got alloy wheels with tubeless tyres.

    The next rear flat was with the new wheels. Used a plug repair kit on the side of the road and was mobile again in 15 minutes. These are great but only work on tubeless tyres.

    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 18 Jan 2019 09:25 AM
    hey rodders, yes I'm on original 03 year spoke wheels myself. I would like to set my spoke wheels up like my mountain bike ( has spoke wheels & run them tubeless ) the sealer I use on the mountain bike amazing stuff. I'll just tape over the spokes to seal that area & add sealer every 6 months. can just carry a few tubes of it and a gas bottle of air. if get a flat this stuff seals straight off. need to check if will work with the bike.
     ( motor bike )

    Hi KK. Seems little point in making bicycle wheels tubeless as you can put sealant, such as Slime, into the tubes and that works good.

    The reason you shouldn't use Slime in the tubes of ya Harley is that at higher speeds it might distribute unevenly within the tube resulting in an unbalanced wheel,


  • rodders Posts: 5840
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    21 Jan 2019 09:50 PM

    Well the update is the car is back on the road. Problem was some kinda spring in the steering column which was shorting out the airbag circuit which resulted in the illumination of the air bag warning light....or something like that.

    Let's hope there are no other issues.

  • perthhog Posts: 1656
    Motor Head perthhog
    21 Jan 2019 10:05 PM
    It’s probably the clock spring that was at fault that’s the spring which flicks your indercator switch 
    Back after you have turned the corner  and the steering wheel is back in its neutral position 
    Which every car has  probably a part made in Mexico for the Spaztang 

  • rodders Posts: 5840
    Victoria
    Forum Legend rodders
    21 Jan 2019 11:28 PM

    Thanks perthhog & loopie. That's exactly it. I couldn't remember the name of it. Seems a relatively minor, but annoying issue so perhaps I was a bit harsh in the title of this thread.....LOL.

    So ol mate is a happy man again with his new Stang. Hopefully I'll get a steer of it sooner or later. It's a good looking car and sounds pretty good too when he gives it a kick in the guts.

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    22 Jan 2019 09:31 AM
    Quoting Smokey61 on 15 Jan 2019 12:52 PM
    HD Forums Australia - flattyre_1.jpg

    In my day, when we got a flat, we fixed it.

    gets hard to remove tyre from rim if they have a saftey rim!! but you can do it. you can find someone with a jack and something heavy enough to jack up ( might be hard these days no one with spare tyres so doubt they carry a jack )
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    22 Jan 2019 09:37 AM
    Quoting Smokey61 on 14 Jan 2019 10:04 PM
    A bloke I knew bought a new Mustang, got a flat out of town, no spare. None. Had to wait three hours for tray truck.

    A few months ago I bought myself an immaculate one owner, regularly serviced '12 VE II SS Commy V8 manual with 30,000kms for $20K. And it has a spare. I'm happy.
    Quoting paulybronco on 14 Jan 2019 10:37 PM
    Plenty of new cars come without a spare tyre nowadays , more come with a space saver and very few come with a full size spare
    that is very true! the idea is gives you more space to carry what you need to. one problem I can see with this way of thinking is. If you are loaded up & on a trip, & you get a flat & only have a space saver and the compartment you have space saver is only large enough, for a space saver. If you un pack the car to get to the space saver, then remove the flat tyre, put space saver on, the full size flat tyre won't fit were the space saver did.  so you might have a dirty old wheel and tyre to try to get in the car with your clean luggage.
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