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  • paulybronco Posts: 11691
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    08 Feb 2019 09:12 PM
    Quoting Tim S.G. on 08 Feb 2019 08:13 PM
    Even the newer framed Tourers have a wallow on fast 160kmh+ sweepers . So I am told ...
    LOL
  • JamesJ Posts: 565
    Performance Poster JamesJ
    09 Feb 2019 08:12 AM
    Quoting Baloffski on 04 Feb 2019 09:53 PM
    Am not a riders Arseole after first 1969 chopper hardtail, I found suspension. But in saying so, there are so many talented riders I have seen , whom persist, and so good to watch and give ya that warm tummy feeling,  are so cool. Where were we?


    you were just saying you are not a rider's arsehole...(sorry Baloff but you led with your chin on that one! ;-p )
  • fatbat Posts: 2827
    Forum Legend fatbat
    09 Feb 2019 09:58 AM
    Going to the newer 2009-2013 frame if possible for similar if not a few more dollars is a no brainer. 
  • paulybronco Posts: 11691
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    09 Feb 2019 11:50 AM
    Quoting fatbat on 09 Feb 2019 09:58 AM
    Going to the newer 2009-2013 frame if possible for similar if not a few more dollars is a no brainer. 
    Not according to Neale....LOL
  • Tim S.G. Posts: 4235
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend Tim S.G.
    11 Feb 2019 07:32 PM
    Quoting fatbat on 09 Feb 2019 09:58 AM
    Going to the newer 2009-2013 frame if possible for similar if not a few more dollars is a no brainer. 
    Quoting paulybronco on 09 Feb 2019 11:50 AM
    Not according to Neale....LOL
    I've seen new ones head shake and nearly throw riders off ,  and wallow something fucking horrible on long , high speed bends .It's what they are . But I'm with Fatbat , if you are looking to buy a second hand one , 2009+ . It's all down to how they are ridden . A lot of riders may never experience a wallow or shake .
  • paulybronco Posts: 11691
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    11 Feb 2019 08:18 PM
    Quoting fatbat on 09 Feb 2019 09:58 AM
    Going to the newer 2009-2013 frame if possible for similar if not a few more dollars is a no brainer. 
    Quoting paulybronco on 09 Feb 2019 11:50 AM
    Not according to Neale....LOL
    Quoting Tim S.G. on 11 Feb 2019 07:32 PM
    I've seen new ones head shake and nearly throw riders off ,  and wallow something fucking horrible on long , high speed bends .It's what they are . But I'm with Fatbat , if you are looking to buy a second hand one , 2009+ . It's all down to how they are ridden . A lot of riders may never experience a wallow or shake .
    Fully agree
  • Soapbox2627 Posts: 3325
    Whyalla South Australia
    Forum Legend Soapbox2627
    11 Feb 2019 08:19 PM
    Quoting fatbat on 09 Feb 2019 09:58 AM
    Going to the newer 2009-2013 frame if possible for similar if not a few more dollars is a no brainer. 
    Quoting paulybronco on 09 Feb 2019 11:50 AM
    Not according to Neale....LOL
    Quoting Tim S.G. on 11 Feb 2019 07:32 PM
    I've seen new ones head shake and nearly throw riders off ,  and wallow something fucking horrible on long , high speed bends .It's what they are . But I'm with Fatbat , if you are looking to buy a second hand one , 2009+ . It's all down to how they are ridden . A lot of riders may never experience a wallow or shake .

    that would be me, never experiance it

    or scrapping my pegs/boards

  • keith Posts: 1787
    Perth West Aust {SOR}
    Motor Head keith
    18 Feb 2019 10:20 PM
    Quoting Sparra on 29 Jan 2019 06:51 PM
    Hey fellas...Looking at a 2008 Road King and was wondering if anyone has ridden one with this frame and also ridden one with the upgraded frame..Is there a great difference in handling and if there is what can be done with the older frame to improve things...I don't ride really aggressively but like to give them a fist full from time to time..
    Cheers... 
    If your ride to your capability's no issues, I'm looking on US web sites for similar garage queen 08 and older for my ride in the states this year, are you still looking or made a decision yet ?
  • Sparra Posts: 1972
    Motor Head Sparra
    19 Feb 2019 06:01 AM
    Thanks for the reply's...The bike I was looking at was sold before I had made up my mind so still looking...I am in no hurry so I will bide my time until I find something that is in my price range and a colour (not black) that I like but will more than likely be a 2009 or newer.
    Cheers...
  • chriso Posts: 2785
    south canberra
    Forum Legend chriso
    19 Feb 2019 08:05 AM
    That video does look a bit over the top but probally to give a good example of the issue.
    It’s a well known fact that harley changed the frame after 2009 because of the wallowing problem and handling issues.
    I had a early noodle bagger and it was a cunt of a feeling when it happened.
    People can deny all they want but they are the facts..
  • Neale Posts: 398
    Richmond NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Neale
    19 Feb 2019 04:47 PM
    Quoting chriso on 19 Feb 2019 08:05 AMedited: 19 Feb 2019 08:06 AM
    That video does look a bit over the top but probally to give a good example of the issue.
    It’s a well known fact that harley changed the frame after 2009 because of the wallowing problem and handling issues.
    I had a early noodle bagger and it was a cunt of a feeling when it happened.
    People can deny all they want but they are the facts..
    Absolutely correct.
    Mines a wobbler, mainly on a downhill sweeping corner.
    I've ridden a 2013 Road King and a 2016 Street Glide and for how I ride I couldn't see the point of upgrading.
    I don't think that mines as violent as my GS 850 Suzuki was, or my 1982GSX 1100. They were scary.
    I still say that video is bullshit though.
  • Baloffski Posts: 1703
    Victoria
    Motor Head Baloffski
    19 Feb 2019 07:13 PM
    OK Boys and Girls. God I do love motorcycles...
     Now, have been riding since, 60"s wit purple BSA A10 with a squeeze horn, thank very much...
    Now , to the issue. I personally am looking at going backwards.. Electronics are are are........
  • paulybronco Posts: 11691
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    20 Feb 2019 10:44 AM
    Quoting chriso on 19 Feb 2019 08:05 AMedited: 19 Feb 2019 08:06 AM
    That video does look a bit over the top but probally to give a good example of the issue.
    It’s a well known fact that harley changed the frame after 2009 because of the wallowing problem and handling issues.
    I had a early noodle bagger and it was a cunt of a feeling when it happened.
    People can deny all they want but they are the facts..
    Quoting Neale on 19 Feb 2019 04:47 PM
    Absolutely correct.
    Mines a wobbler, mainly on a downhill sweeping corner.
    I've ridden a 2013 Road King and a 2016 Street Glide and for how I ride I couldn't see the point of upgrading.
    I don't think that mines as violent as my GS 850 Suzuki was, or my 1982GSX 1100. They were scary.
    I still say that video is bullshit though.
    I reject reality and substitute my own!
  • Neale Posts: 398
    Richmond NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Neale
    20 Feb 2019 01:23 PM
    Quoting chriso on 19 Feb 2019 08:05 AMedited: 19 Feb 2019 08:06 AM
    That video does look a bit over the top but probally to give a good example of the issue.
    It’s a well known fact that harley changed the frame after 2009 because of the wallowing problem and handling issues.
    I had a early noodle bagger and it was a cunt of a feeling when it happened.
    People can deny all they want but they are the facts..
    Quoting Neale on 19 Feb 2019 04:47 PM
    Absolutely correct.
    Mines a wobbler, mainly on a downhill sweeping corner.
    I've ridden a 2013 Road King and a 2016 Street Glide and for how I ride I couldn't see the point of upgrading.
    I don't think that mines as violent as my GS 850 Suzuki was, or my 1982GSX 1100. They were scary.
    I still say that video is bullshit though.
    Quoting paulybronco on 20 Feb 2019 10:44 AM
    I reject reality and substitute my own!
    Very clever.
    Is this the end of it?
  • paulybronco Posts: 11691
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    20 Feb 2019 09:15 PM
    Quoting Neale on 19 Feb 2019 04:47 PM
    Absolutely correct.
    Mines a wobbler, mainly on a downhill sweeping corner.
    I've ridden a 2013 Road King and a 2016 Street Glide and for how I ride I couldn't see the point of upgrading.
    I don't think that mines as violent as my GS 850 Suzuki was, or my 1982GSX 1100. They were scary.
    I still say that video is bullshit though.
    Quoting paulybronco on 20 Feb 2019 10:44 AM
    I reject reality and substitute my own!
    Quoting Neale on 20 Feb 2019 01:23 PM
    Very clever.
    Is this the end of it?
    Not if you keep thinking there is some strange conspiracy to bag the old frames. Several after market people have made shit loads , with selling frame bracing devices for those frames. If you still doubt its a fact happy to send you a shovel to bury your head in the sand
  • Neale Posts: 398
    Richmond NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Neale
    21 Feb 2019 07:28 AM
    Mate, I never suggested that there was any "conspiracy " about the old frames, read my original post again.
    You are the one who brought this shit up, not me.
    What I said was that I can't believe that bike in that video handles like it does. There has to be poor suspension setup or under inflated tyres or something for it to be as tragic as that.
    I am aware how the 08 back baggers  handle, I've had one for 12 yrs.
    But hey, if it will end a stupid argument ..... You're right, I'm wrong .
    Cya.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11691
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    21 Feb 2019 11:38 AM
    Quoting Neale on 21 Feb 2019 07:28 AM
    Mate, I never suggested that there was any "conspiracy " about the old frames, read my original post again.
    You are the one who brought this shit up, not me.
    What I said was that I can't believe that bike in that video handles like it does. There has to be poor suspension setup or under inflated tyres or something for it to be as tragic as that.
    I am aware how the 08 back baggers  handle, I've had one for 12 yrs.
    But hey, if it will end a stupid argument ..... You're right, I'm wrong .
    Cya.
    No argument Neale just find its amusing that you would think that some "unknown" setup issue was performed to stage the video to reflect on the poor handling of the bike. 
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