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  • Wideglider Posts: 427
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    07 Feb 2019 09:17 PM
    Quoting Nutty on 04 Feb 2019 09:42 PMedited: 04 Feb 2019 09:45 PM
    No way. They're down to $14500 sucker price. You'll easily get another &1K off that. '18s need to move.

    https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2018-Honda-Africa-Twin-(CRF1000L)-MY17/SHRM-AD-480397?pageSource=details&id=SHRM-AD-480397

    Ride a AT Wideglide, if you're keen I'll sort you a cheap one. ;)
    Quoting Wideglider on 04 Feb 2019 10:30 PM
    Thanks for the link Nutty, I will definitely take your advice & test ride the Honda. The base model has no ABS, traction control or cruise control from what I can make out, whereas the BMW base has all this for the lower price. I would obviously consider the Honda models with extras or a 2018 year if the price was right.
    As I said, I grew up on Hondas & always feel like I belong on one - funny how a brand/make can do this.
    Do you know a fair dealer in these Hondas?  - are you over here the eastern states?
         
    Quoting Nutty on 05 Feb 2019 08:08 AM
    Yep, good mate owns a Honda franchise in Wollongong NSW. I'm in the Shoalhaven.
    I'll be being doing a bit of test riding different makes soon - will have to drop in there to try an AT.
  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1508
    Castlemaine
    Motor Head Geoff3DMN
    08 Feb 2019 12:07 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

  • Wideglider Posts: 427
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    09 Feb 2019 07:59 PM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 08 Feb 2019 12:07 AMedited: 08 Feb 2019 12:10 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

    Thanks Geoff, the V-Strom looks very capable for what it is - but not exactly what I'm after.
  • Jayman6 Posts: 921
    Gold Coast QLD
    Performance Poster Jayman6
    11 Feb 2019 07:39 PM
    Get a DR650SE for $9k, spend another $3k getting it set up for your specifics. Now you still have money in the bank and a bulletproof adventure bike that will outlive mankind, no matter what you throw at it. You can thank me later ;)
  • speedzter Posts: 1720
    The 'Rat
    Motor Head speedzter
    12 Feb 2019 08:20 AM
    The Dr650 pretty much sucks on the road compared to any twin cylinder.



  • Wideglider Posts: 427
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    12 Feb 2019 12:43 PM
    Quoting Jayman6 on 11 Feb 2019 07:39 PM
    Get a DR650SE for $9k, spend another $3k getting it set up for your specifics. Now you still have money in the bank and a bulletproof adventure bike that will outlive mankind, no matter what you throw at it. You can thank me later ;)
    The DR650 would be light & east to throw around on the dirt, very manageable but would like a twin cyl & some creature comforts for when on the blacktop.
  • JFE Posts: 1303
    NSW
    Performance Poster JFE
    13 Feb 2019 02:27 PM
    Has anyone asked Lofty when he’s selling his dirt bike?’

    I saw somewhere the Africa Twin is about to get an upgraded engine. That may make some second hand ones a little cheaper, if true. 
  • Wideglider Posts: 427
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    13 Feb 2019 08:50 PM
    Quoting JFE on 13 Feb 2019 02:27 PM
    Has anyone asked Lofty when he’s selling his dirt bike?’

    I saw somewhere the Africa Twin is about to get an upgraded engine. That may make some second hand ones a little cheaper, if true. 
    Well, if that's true I certainly would be on the lookout for the cheaper run-out stock.
  • boxa Posts: 612
    Performance Poster boxa
    13 Feb 2019 09:50 PM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 08 Feb 2019 12:07 AMedited: 08 Feb 2019 12:10 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

    Quoting Wideglider on 09 Feb 2019 07:59 PM
    Thanks Geoff, the V-Strom looks very capable for what it is - but not exactly what I'm after.
    Second the v strom , i love mine , there will be better dirt bikes around , but for bugger all money i done the seat  screen and other things and use it for touring , really comfortable tourer ,  and you can save thousands , with stock suspension  mine handles firetrails ,  dirt roads  with ease , if i was to do serious stuff , its cheap enough to buy you could get some real good suspension with what you save , v strom for me is the perfect second bike ,  a bmw 1200  if i could  reach to get on it , would be good and probably a lot better , but with the cost it would be my first not secondbike ,  V strom 650 a lot of bike for very little money . Perhaps Lofty can chip in , he does serious dirt shit , i know he's owned lots of them , and read somewhere he bought a v strom for commuting , hie could point you in the right direction message him
  • LOFTYBOB Posts: 3799
    Strength in Unity
    Forum Legend LOFTYBOB
    15 Feb 2019 06:44 PM
    V-Strom 650 if you are not going to do single track loony riding, very capable (with the right tyres fitted) and they last for over 150,000 km’s. A lot of bike for $11k
  • Wideglider Posts: 427
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    15 Feb 2019 09:48 PM
    Quoting LOFTYBOB on 15 Feb 2019 06:44 PM
    V-Strom 650 if you are not going to do single track loony riding, very capable (with the right tyres fitted) and they last for over 150,000 km’s. A lot of bike for $11k
    Some good value for money there alright.
    How do you rate the Africa Twin?
  • Baloffski Posts: 1535
    Victoria
    Motor Head Baloffski
    16 Feb 2019 03:17 PM
    Jesus. 70's had many motorcycles. 
    Suzuki had the TS 250.. TS 400 ( a long bike)]
    Gs1000S roadie. 
    But, I agree wit you guys and do say the VStrom 650 is a good option, being broke soon...May suit me as replacement therapy.........
  • Wideglider Posts: 427
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    19 Feb 2019 11:12 AM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 08 Feb 2019 12:07 AMedited: 08 Feb 2019 12:10 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

    Quoting Wideglider on 09 Feb 2019 07:59 PM
    Thanks Geoff, the V-Strom looks very capable for what it is - but not exactly what I'm after.
    Quoting boxa on 13 Feb 2019 09:50 PMedited: 13 Feb 2019 09:53 PM
    Second the v strom , i love mine , there will be better dirt bikes around , but for bugger all money i done the seat  screen and other things and use it for touring , really comfortable tourer ,  and you can save thousands , with stock suspension  mine handles firetrails ,  dirt roads  with ease , if i was to do serious stuff , its cheap enough to buy you could get some real good suspension with what you save , v strom for me is the perfect second bike ,  a bmw 1200  if i could  reach to get on it , would be good and probably a lot better , but with the cost it would be my first not secondbike ,  V strom 650 a lot of bike for very little money . Perhaps Lofty can chip in , he does serious dirt shit , i know he's owned lots of them , and read somewhere he bought a v strom for commuting , hie could point you in the right direction message him
    Thanks for the info boxa - I am test riding a couple of different bikes today.
  • Wideglider Posts: 427
    Illawarra NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Wideglider
    20 Feb 2019 10:58 PM
    Started test riding yesterday. 
    BMW F850GS, great handling, enough power/acceleration, seat height was a little tall - price maybe achievable. 
    BMW R1250 GS, plenty power, handling, suspension excellent, seat height good - can't really afford it.
    Africa Twin, looked at a couple (the automatic & the Adventure), no demo available yet.
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