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  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1532
    Castlemaine
    Motor Head Geoff3DMN
    08 Feb 2019 12:07 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

  • Wideglider Posts: 574
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    Performance Poster Wideglider
    09 Feb 2019 07:59 PM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 08 Feb 2019 12:07 AMedited: 08 Feb 2019 12:10 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

    Thanks Geoff, the V-Strom looks very capable for what it is - but not exactly what I'm after.
  • Jayman6 Posts: 938
    Gold Coast QLD
    Performance Poster Jayman6
    11 Feb 2019 07:39 PM
    Get a DR650SE for $9k, spend another $3k getting it set up for your specifics. Now you still have money in the bank and a bulletproof adventure bike that will outlive mankind, no matter what you throw at it. You can thank me later ;)
  • speedzter Posts: 1769
    The 'Rat
    Motor Head speedzter
    12 Feb 2019 08:20 AM
    The Dr650 pretty much sucks on the road compared to any twin cylinder.



  • Wideglider Posts: 574
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    12 Feb 2019 12:43 PM
    Quoting Jayman6 on 11 Feb 2019 07:39 PM
    Get a DR650SE for $9k, spend another $3k getting it set up for your specifics. Now you still have money in the bank and a bulletproof adventure bike that will outlive mankind, no matter what you throw at it. You can thank me later ;)
    The DR650 would be light & east to throw around on the dirt, very manageable but would like a twin cyl & some creature comforts for when on the blacktop.
  • JFE Posts: 1553
    NSW
    Motor Head JFE
    13 Feb 2019 02:27 PM
    Has anyone asked Lofty when he’s selling his dirt bike?’

    I saw somewhere the Africa Twin is about to get an upgraded engine. That may make some second hand ones a little cheaper, if true. 
  • Wideglider Posts: 574
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    Performance Poster Wideglider
    13 Feb 2019 08:50 PM
    Quoting JFE on 13 Feb 2019 02:27 PM
    Has anyone asked Lofty when he’s selling his dirt bike?’

    I saw somewhere the Africa Twin is about to get an upgraded engine. That may make some second hand ones a little cheaper, if true. 
    Well, if that's true I certainly would be on the lookout for the cheaper run-out stock.
  • boxa Posts: 642
    Performance Poster boxa
    13 Feb 2019 09:50 PM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 08 Feb 2019 12:07 AMedited: 08 Feb 2019 12:10 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

    Quoting Wideglider on 09 Feb 2019 07:59 PM
    Thanks Geoff, the V-Strom looks very capable for what it is - but not exactly what I'm after.
    Second the v strom , i love mine , there will be better dirt bikes around , but for bugger all money i done the seat  screen and other things and use it for touring , really comfortable tourer ,  and you can save thousands , with stock suspension  mine handles firetrails ,  dirt roads  with ease , if i was to do serious stuff , its cheap enough to buy you could get some real good suspension with what you save , v strom for me is the perfect second bike ,  a bmw 1200  if i could  reach to get on it , would be good and probably a lot better , but with the cost it would be my first not secondbike ,  V strom 650 a lot of bike for very little money . Perhaps Lofty can chip in , he does serious dirt shit , i know he's owned lots of them , and read somewhere he bought a v strom for commuting , hie could point you in the right direction message him
  • LOFTYBOB Posts: 3832
    Strength in Unity
    Forum Legend LOFTYBOB
    15 Feb 2019 06:44 PM
    V-Strom 650 if you are not going to do single track loony riding, very capable (with the right tyres fitted) and they last for over 150,000 km’s. A lot of bike for $11k
  • Wideglider Posts: 574
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    15 Feb 2019 09:48 PM
    Quoting LOFTYBOB on 15 Feb 2019 06:44 PM
    V-Strom 650 if you are not going to do single track loony riding, very capable (with the right tyres fitted) and they last for over 150,000 km’s. A lot of bike for $11k
    Some good value for money there alright.
    How do you rate the Africa Twin?
  • Baloffski Posts: 1671
    Victoria
    Motor Head Baloffski
    16 Feb 2019 03:17 PM
    Jesus. 70's had many motorcycles. 
    Suzuki had the TS 250.. TS 400 ( a long bike)]
    Gs1000S roadie. 
    But, I agree wit you guys and do say the VStrom 650 is a good option, being broke soon...May suit me as replacement therapy.........
  • Wideglider Posts: 574
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    19 Feb 2019 11:12 AM
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 08 Feb 2019 12:07 AMedited: 08 Feb 2019 12:10 AM
    Depending upon how much off road riding you’re going to be doing a V-Strom 650XT or V-Strom 1000XT (the wire wheel models) could be an option. There are a shit load of after market farkles available for them.

    And for our short poster earlier the V-Storm 650 has a low seat option but you have to be pretty short to need it, I am only 5 foot 8 and fine with the stock seat (There is also a tall seat).  The 1000 is taller and wider and I’d need a low seat for that.

    The BWW F750GS also has a low seat option (the 700GS has a low suspension option, the 750 probably will too but I haven’t checked).

    Quoting Wideglider on 09 Feb 2019 07:59 PM
    Thanks Geoff, the V-Strom looks very capable for what it is - but not exactly what I'm after.
    Quoting boxa on 13 Feb 2019 09:50 PMedited: 13 Feb 2019 09:53 PM
    Second the v strom , i love mine , there will be better dirt bikes around , but for bugger all money i done the seat  screen and other things and use it for touring , really comfortable tourer ,  and you can save thousands , with stock suspension  mine handles firetrails ,  dirt roads  with ease , if i was to do serious stuff , its cheap enough to buy you could get some real good suspension with what you save , v strom for me is the perfect second bike ,  a bmw 1200  if i could  reach to get on it , would be good and probably a lot better , but with the cost it would be my first not secondbike ,  V strom 650 a lot of bike for very little money . Perhaps Lofty can chip in , he does serious dirt shit , i know he's owned lots of them , and read somewhere he bought a v strom for commuting , hie could point you in the right direction message him
    Thanks for the info boxa - I am test riding a couple of different bikes today.
  • Wideglider Posts: 574
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    20 Feb 2019 10:58 PM
    Started test riding yesterday. 
    BMW F850GS, great handling, enough power/acceleration, seat height was a little tall - price maybe achievable. 
    BMW R1250 GS, plenty power, handling, suspension excellent, seat height good - can't really afford it.
    Africa Twin, looked at a couple (the automatic & the Adventure), no demo available yet.
  • Geoff3DMN Posts: 1532
    Castlemaine
    Motor Head Geoff3DMN
    28 Feb 2019 10:07 PM
    Quoting Wideglider on 20 Feb 2019 10:58 PMedited: 21 Feb 2019 07:16 PM
    Started test riding yesterday. 
    BMW F850GS, great handling, enough power/acceleration, seat height was a little tall - price maybe achievable. 
    BMW R1250 GS, plenty power, handling, suspension excellent, seat height good - can't really afford it.
    Africa Twin, looked at a couple (the automatic & the Adventure), no demo available yet.

    You didn't look at the F750GS?  

    That's basically the same motor as the 850GS, just in a different state of tune and it has a much lower seight height.
  • Wideglider Posts: 574
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    28 Feb 2019 10:34 PM
    Quoting Wideglider on 20 Feb 2019 10:58 PMedited: 21 Feb 2019 07:16 PM
    Started test riding yesterday. 
    BMW F850GS, great handling, enough power/acceleration, seat height was a little tall - price maybe achievable. 
    BMW R1250 GS, plenty power, handling, suspension excellent, seat height good - can't really afford it.
    Africa Twin, looked at a couple (the automatic & the Adventure), no demo available yet.
    Quoting Geoff3DMN on 28 Feb 2019 10:07 PM

    You didn't look at the F750GS?  

    That's basically the same motor as the 850GS, just in a different state of tune and it has a much lower seight height.
    Thanks Geoff, I saw it on showroom floor next to the F850GS. I just took a look at the smaller 19" front cast wheel and straight away the F850GS with the spoked 21"er looked more capable for what I want. Plus I read a couple of reviews that mentioned that the F750GS is pitched more for road than trail than the 850.
    Anyway, seat height is only one factor in my quest.     
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2524
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    01 Mar 2019 04:28 PM
    Quoting Baloffski on 04 Feb 2019 09:44 PM
    BSA Bantam with school bags......
    you have good taste Mick!!
    I'd go KTM 790 think they would be light and fun. get into some real Adventure.
  • Nath103 Posts: 12
    Sydney
    Stock Poster Nath103
    13 Mar 2019 12:15 PM
    Have you considered a KTM 625SXC? or 640ADV. same bike just front fairing and few other cosmetic changes
    I owned a 625 after my DRz300(not a typo) and DR650 and it was hands down way better, Cruised all day at 120 then great on the single track. 
    Easy to service. Nice tall bike esp as Im 6'4
    Only reason I sold it was to Get a KTM950s 
  • Wideglider Posts: 574
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    13 Apr 2019 07:58 PM
    Yeah Nath, would like to test ride a KTM as well.
  • Wideglider Posts: 574
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    13 Apr 2019 08:08 PM
    Nearby dealer has a 2016 Africa Twin CRF1000L auto for sale - have arranged for test ride on Monday. Looked odd without the foot gear shifter.
    Any info/opinions on that year's model?
  • Nutty Posts: 292
    Stage 1 Poster Nutty
    15 Apr 2019 12:25 PM
    Quoting Nath103 on 13 Mar 2019 12:15 PM
    Have you considered a KTM 625SXC? or 640ADV. same bike just front fairing and few other cosmetic changes
    I owned a 625 after my DRz300(not a typo) and DR650 and it was hands down way better, Cruised all day at 120 then great on the single track. 
    Easy to service. Nice tall bike esp as Im 6'4
    Only reason I sold it was to Get a KTM950s 
    All the LC4 KTMs are great bikes, the earlier models with OC forks are the best. The 4CS fork is a strange thing. One thing LC4s CAN do is climb a sandhill, for true sandy desert work they'll flog any 1000cc+ bike. A low km pre-4CS 690 would always be my pick. The A/T is a great bike for the price though. 
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