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  • leachy Posts: 156
    Stock Poster leachy
    12 Jul 2019 10:21 PM
    I havnt ridden the new softails yet myself but everyone who reviews them says how great they handle. But my question is are they comparing the new softail low rider to the standard suspension of a dyna lowrider. If a dyna's suspension was upgraded to progressive, legend or ohlins shocks and cartridge inserts would it be equal or better than the new standard softails'? Or is the new frame that much superior. 
  • brash Posts: 650
    Performance Poster brash
    13 Jul 2019 09:56 AM
    Stock for stock the Softail is much better.

    I have ohlins front and back on my FXDLS, it's like night and day difference. Not a cheap exercise but worth it IMO.
  • Grease Monkey Posts: 789
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    13 Jul 2019 10:12 AM
    Agree with Brash, everyone of the new Softail models I've ridden had superior suspension to its twin cam equivalent, the Sportglide is a notch above all of them, seriously great out of the box in the handling department.
  • tussuck Posts: 2100
    Motor Head tussuck
    13 Jul 2019 10:57 AM
    My god thats got to a first.  EVERY softail I have ridden and they were all Evos, had shit suspension and handling to boot. (thats comparing to an FXR)
  • Neale Posts: 416
    Richmond NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Neale
    13 Jul 2019 11:29 AM
    I have a new heritage, and yes it's ride is far superior to any of the other 4 hd's that I've owned. Including my Electra Glide.
    I'm only talking suspension .
  • Smokey61 Posts: 738
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    13 Jul 2019 02:26 PM
    Given the dyna frame dates back to around 1991 and was designed for Evo motors, I'd say the new frames would be a huge improvement. That said, Harleys only lean over so far before you're gouging anyway.
  • Ratbob Posts: 1096
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    14 Jul 2019 10:11 AM
    The simple change of attaching the swing arm to the frame rather than to a wobbly rubber mounted transmission couldn’t be a bad thing.
    But even that hasn’t fixed the handling issues of the Breakout nor new Fat Boy. I guess it’s the 240 rear.

  • leachy Posts: 156
    Stock Poster leachy
    14 Jul 2019 11:41 AM
    Interesting comments. The other reason i was interested is I'm weighing up the options of selling my 2016 Low Rider, stage 1 with upgraded rear shocks to a Low Rider 2019. 

    If i don't upgrade the 2019 ill spend a bit on the front front suspension. Not expecting sports bike handling but if the latest 2019 is still a lot better after full suspension upgrades on mine i dont want to waste more money. 

    Think its time to take one for a run.
  • Grease Monkey Posts: 789
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    14 Jul 2019 12:18 PM
    Leachy my comments are based on the stock suspension of both the twin cam and M8, you can upgrade the Dyna to equal or better the stock M8, it's just money aye, the new Softail frame is stiffer than the old Softail frame but I can't tell the difference there, my 2016 Softail has had a lot spent on suspension, no new stock one comes close except the the Sportglide and that's only because my front is not top end, if it was set specifically for my weight it would be much better there, the new frame is a better mousetrap though, no question about it, but if you do your homework on the twin cam you would be flat out to pick the sensible models apart. 
  • leachy Posts: 156
    Stock Poster leachy
    15 Jul 2019 09:57 AM
    Thanks for the info GM.

    Im happy to stick with the Dyna but just doing my home work, not looking for sports bike handling or performance as theres one of those beside the Harley in the shed, just making sure its just not wasted.
  • Grease Monkey Posts: 789
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    15 Jul 2019 11:09 AM
    No worries mate, they will never be a sport bike but having predictable suspension is just nicer to punt along. My slim was so mushy in the front in stock form it wasn't funny, now it's a little firm for my weight but I can live with it as it's perfect two up.
  • leachy Posts: 156
    Stock Poster leachy
    15 Jul 2019 06:26 PM
    I have to head to usa in September so might pick up the legend cartridge kit for it.

    Ohlins is just a little too much for me.
  • brash Posts: 650
    Performance Poster brash
    17 Jul 2019 08:05 AM

    The issue with the legend kit is if you don't fall in the "bell curve" of the tune for that cartridge it's not gonna be much chop.

    ie, if you are light, or north of 90kg. The Ohlins is good in the fact the compression and rebound shim stacks can be easily tuned for the riders weight and riding style.

    Give Howard at Motorcycle metal an email. The prices are much better from the USA than the rip off distributor here in Aus. Plus Howard will custom shim the fork/shocks for you for nothing and put the right spring rate in.

  • leachy Posts: 156
    Stock Poster leachy
    17 Jul 2019 12:19 PM
    Ok Thanks for the info. Im about 84kg with my gear on.

    Has anyone used the Fox Performance Cartridge?
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