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  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    27 Jul 2019 11:29 PM

    Could be "nasty" rumours , but word is Frasers are withdrawing from Perth and WA

    It has been known that their current Morley site has been sold some time ago for property development ( 125 retirement units apparently ).

    Other sites around Perth were considered , but just today the latest "rumour" is they are leaving WA and "another" crew have taken the HD franchise.

    Even more rumours suggest the location of this "new" franchise holder , Midland in the eastern suburbs has been mooted , existing motorcycle site ( NOT currently HD !)

    I feel for the current Frasers employees , all of whom are nice guys ( and girls !). I have ALWAYS had good service from Frasers these last 25 years , as have multitudes !

    This is not meant to exacerbate that angst for the current employees.

    That would leave Perth HD as the only show in town if no-one else has assumed the franchise for the north of the city.

  • keith Posts: 1826
    Perth West Aust {SOR}
    Motor Head keith
    27 Jul 2019 11:39 PM
    Thanks for the share, life will go on, upside, closing down sale with some realistic pricing ??
  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    27 Jul 2019 11:47 PM

    Could all be "shite" of course , but seems pretty strong suggestion to me. I for one of many will miss them.

    That and the Cannington dealership is over 45 K's one way from my house .

    The new HD stock of parts and bikes will all be going east as a job lot I hear. Makes sense I suppose.

    I stocked up today on oil filters/ spark plugs / primary derby gaskets / sump plug O rings etc etc.

    Basically so I don't have to ride 90K's return journey to collect them for long and weary.

    All the best to their current staff cohort, wishing them well for the future.

  • Rivo Posts: 68
    Chiang Rai Thailand
    Stock Poster Rivo
    28 Jul 2019 05:44 PM
    I read that their current lease in Morley is up in January 2020 so maybe the land owner wants them out, thats only 5 x months away, I am sure the bean counters know whether it is worth relocating to different premises.


    I haven't bought a bike off then since 1998, always enjoy looking around their showroom though, great presentation.
  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    28 Jul 2019 05:54 PM

    Yes I bought new Harleys from them in '95 , '97 , 2000 , 2005, 2007, 2008.

    So it has been 11 years for me. I last bought an ex-US "import" in 2011 and I still have it.

    I won't be alone there , maybe I am "part of the problem" in the greater scheme of things.

    I have been a constant parts customer 1995 to Yesterday Saturday 27th tho' !

    And yes a well lovely showroom and will be missed sorely if they exit WA

  • DarKasH69 Posts: 115
    C.O.U. WA
    Stock Poster DarKasH69
    31 Jul 2019 12:00 PM
    Sad news to hear. As I worked there for a short time and often spend $$$
    Great crew there and I’m sure they will continue into somewhere else, if not into the new store if opened by another owner as they have clientele they could pull over to new place. Time will tell. 
    This will leave Perth HD and Rockingham HD
    Both of which are owned by same person. 
    Bunbury HD closed a while ago also. 

    Show of the economic times .. though with a few more lines opening up, this could all change. 
  • Speeding Big Twin Posts: 37
    Western Australia
    Stock Poster Speeding Big Twin
    31 Jul 2019 06:03 PM

    Today I was at Fraser Motorcycles here in Perth. The shop will close at the end of August. 

    Through September some people will still be there sorting things out but the shop will be closed to the public as of the end of August. If you need more info please contact the shop.

    Eric

  • noctm Posts: 425
    WA
    Stage 1 Poster noctm
    01 Aug 2019 12:36 AM
    i hear savage are taking on the harley franchise and corse are taking on the ducati side. 

    i had a number of poor experiences with frasers and their techs really seemed to know next to fuck all. so a fresh start could be a good thing

  • liberator Posts: 206
    Stock Poster liberator
    02 Aug 2019 05:45 PM
    So whatever happened to Bike World and Belmont Harley ?
  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    02 Aug 2019 09:43 PM

    Shit mate that is ANCIENT history indeed , pre 1994 !

    Frasers took the WA franchise ( for the whole of WA mind !) around that time.

    All the other dealers , Geraldton/Kalgoorlie/Albany/Southern Perth etc etc got all their new bikes and parts thru' Frasers.

    So Frasers were both importer/wholesaler/distributor AND retailer.

    Bit of a cash cow for many years for Frasers NSW , to where they are now retreating.

    the Bike world/Belmont mob got into yankee cars instead , and only closed the doors there late last year

    "Performance West" the last operating name on Gt Eastern Highway. Did "grey import" Harleys from 2011 onwards as well.

    Nice clean bikes they were too , obviously hand picked by their buyers in Texas

  • keith Posts: 1826
    Perth West Aust {SOR}
    Motor Head keith
    03 Aug 2019 12:59 AM
    Quoting liberator on 02 Aug 2019 05:45 PM
    So whatever happened to Bike World and Belmont Harley ?
    Blast from the past "Bikeworld" , only ever have bought one new Harley and it was from them in 91, ah life was good then, weren't to many Harleys on the streets in Perth in those days.
  • STROPP Posts: 397
    Perth
    Stage 1 Poster STROPP
    03 Aug 2019 04:21 PM
    I believe savage Suzuki has bought the Hd franchise and corse the Ducati one
  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    03 Aug 2019 06:31 PM

    Frasers staff were only told last Tuesday that it was all over Red Rover.

    Bit of a shock for them of course. No wonder

    There were rumours for months of relocation to Osborne park ( and other Northern areas , Malaga or Wangara )

    Up to 90% off sale today on clothing /accessories/ memorabilia/parts , which I attended with my usual riding mates.

    Place was jumping and sales brisk. Genuine HD branded denim jeans $40 etc etc. Some T shirts $5

    I was informed yesterday by email of this sale , and apparently the shop was jumping all day yesterday as well.

    SO by today most of the "good stuff" had been cherry picked of course

    The manager did tell my crew that indeed the HD franchise was going to Savage Suzuki over Midland way and Ducati to Corse motorcycles.

    New HD bike stock is going to Savage , used bikes to NSW Frasers shops so no "fire sale" on them.

    End of an era , and myself and my riding crew will really miss the place

  • liberator Posts: 206
    Stock Poster liberator
    03 Aug 2019 08:04 PM
    Quoting liberator on 02 Aug 2019 05:45 PM
    So whatever happened to Bike World and Belmont Harley ?
    Quoting keith on 03 Aug 2019 12:59 AMedited: 03 Aug 2019 11:30 PM
    Blast from the past "Bikeworld" , only ever have bought one new Harley and it was from them in 91, ah life was good then, weren't to many Harleys on the streets in Perth in those days.
    I bought a new Electra Glide off of Bike World in '82, Bike World gave me a better trade for my '79 Fat Bob than Belmont Harley offered, Bike World gave me $7.5k, the bike cost me new in '79 $5.7k, those were the days,
    I ended up selling the Electra Glide in '86 for $12.5k, paid $9k for it in '82, yep, good investments those Harleys were,
  • liberator Posts: 206
    Stock Poster liberator
    03 Aug 2019 08:14 PM
    Here ya go, a price list from 1982 Belmont Harley ,

    HD Forums Australia - 1982 hd price list.png

  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    03 Aug 2019 09:35 PM

    Residual resale pricing on new Harleys has changed since then ! For ever no shadow of a doubt

    Maybe only in the last 7 years did that change. My first '95 Dyna was $21750. At 2 years old in Jan' 97 with 20K K's on it I got $22K

    Almost the perfect combo to make a "perfect storm" has arisen since 2011/12.

     Now these are just my "learned" opinions on the matter.

    Perth HD opened around 2012 ( I think ?). First and only TRUE "competition" for Frasers in WA since 1994.

    Perth HD probably paid too much for trade in bikes , and Frasers lost new bike sales as a result. ( Perth HD ended up with far too many used bikes !)

    Around 2011 it became possible to bring a used Harley from the USA ( or elsewhere ) under the RAWS import scheme.Used Harleys flooded into Australia.

    For a fair while the dollar(s) were at parity , and some times the Aussie dollar was worth $1.05 USD ! That's when I got my own 2008 CVO, still have it !

    I for one would NEVER have paid the $58K Frasers had these for in 2007/8 ( some folks did !! Boomtime WA y'see...)

    Frasers were the importer/distributor/retailer of ALL Harleys into NSW and WA , with a huge margin on each bike , and NO oversupply.1994 to 2012

    Waiting/order list sometimes 18 months in advance I kid you not. That HELPED keep the huge % residual values for those who owned a young HD.

    Maybe 2012 Frasers became "just a dealer" like everyone else , HD Australia took over all importing of bikes and parts, Frasers margin slashed !

    "Boom" gone bye bye , Perth HD , no importer margin ,US imports for a fair few years, Gumtree and Bikesales chock full of cheap low K's clean Harleys.

    Like I said the "perfect storm" and Frasers NSW decided to ride it out no longer.

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2703
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    04 Aug 2019 08:35 AM
    Quoting liberator on 03 Aug 2019 08:14 PM
    Here ya go, a price list from 1982 Belmont Harley ,

    HD Forums Australia - 1982 hd price list.png

    The prices look a bit higher than what we payed in NSW at that time. have to also remember the Aussie dollar was higher that the US dollar & about 20% higher than US dollar now about 30%+ lower, was thanks to Paul Keating.


  • Broke Posts: 79
    WA
    Stock Poster Broke
    06 Aug 2019 06:54 PM
    Dianella was far enough away, now will have to go to Midvale for a service !
  • Retroman Posts: 1036
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    25 Aug 2019 03:35 PM

    All done and dusted. Yesterday , Saturday 24th was Frasers Perth last trading day.

    Mu usual 15 man riding crew all met there before a run over to the coast. Bright but COOL all day.

    Sad in a way , but as a wiser man than I once said

    "The only guarantee in life is that nothing will stay the same"

  • steelo Posts: 2577
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    25 Aug 2019 04:17 PM
    Quoting Retroman on 25 Aug 2019 03:35 PM

    All done and dusted. Yesterday , Saturday 24th was Frasers Perth last trading day.

    Mu usual 15 man riding crew all met there before a run over to the coast. Bright but COOL all day.

    Sad in a way , but as a wiser man than I once said

    "The only guarantee in life is that nothing will stay the same"

    Good segue RM to a saying I also heard from someone much wiser than I (I know that's not hard)
    Except
    "The smell of grandads farts!"
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