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  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    07 Oct 2019 09:54 AM
    Never been used.  Came from a 2014 Harley Breakout. $350 or nearest offer.HD Forums Australia - a_harley_tuner.jpg

  • Ratbob Posts: 1061
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    08 Oct 2019 10:42 AM
    Hi Bogie, how do you know it’s not been used? 
  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    08 Oct 2019 12:19 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 08 Oct 2019 10:42 AM
    Hi Bogie, how do you know it’s not been used? 
    I bought the motorcycle brand new at harley Heaven and many things were replaced before delivery and I kept them all, including the tuner.
  • steelo Posts: 2507
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    08 Oct 2019 12:28 PM
    Bogie. The tuner is ONE TIME paired to the host bike. To  be used on another bike, it must be reset at some cost by an operator like FIKMIK. If your bike was ever professionally tuned stage one, two or three (unlikely that it wouldn't have been prior to you buying it if you bought new pipes etc) Then the tuner still perhaps has a resale value (not that much) but the buyer can't use it until it has been reset. If it has been used, it is worth more selling it with the bike.
  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    08 Oct 2019 01:26 PM
    Quoting steelo on 08 Oct 2019 12:28 PMedited: 08 Oct 2019 12:29 PM
    Bogie. The tuner is ONE TIME paired to the host bike. To  be used on another bike, it must be reset at some cost by an operator like FIKMIK. If your bike was ever professionally tuned stage one, two or three (unlikely that it wouldn't have been prior to you buying it if you bought new pipes etc) Then the tuner still perhaps has a resale value (not that much) but the buyer can't use it until it has been reset. If it has been used, it is worth more selling it with the bike.
    Thanks for that... I went and had another look at it and it has a handwritten VIN number on it so you would be spot on... I got different exhaust and breather on the bike when it was delivered and the tuner has been in the box since delivery and only taken out recenty to photograph and have a look at today... so how much do you think it would be worth  now as it would have to be reset? 
  • Birtyyy Posts: 117
    Melbourne
    Stock Poster Birtyyy
    08 Oct 2019 01:32 PM
    Quoting steelo on 08 Oct 2019 12:28 PMedited: 08 Oct 2019 12:29 PM
    Bogie. The tuner is ONE TIME paired to the host bike. To  be used on another bike, it must be reset at some cost by an operator like FIKMIK. If your bike was ever professionally tuned stage one, two or three (unlikely that it wouldn't have been prior to you buying it if you bought new pipes etc) Then the tuner still perhaps has a resale value (not that much) but the buyer can't use it until it has been reset. If it has been used, it is worth more selling it with the bike.
    Quoting Bogie on 08 Oct 2019 01:26 PM
    Thanks for that... I went and had another look at it and it has a handwritten VIN number on it so you would be spot on... I got different exhaust and breather on the bike when it was delivered and the tuner has been in the box since delivery and only taken out recenty to photograph and have a look at today... so how much do you think it would be worth  now as it would have to be reset? 
    If you still have the bike it's probably more valuable to you than anyone else. If there's even a small chance that you might do some more modifications down the track I'd keep it. If that does happen you'll kick yourself for selling it.
  • steelo Posts: 2507
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    08 Oct 2019 01:33 PM
    Well done Bogie. My recommendation would be to keep it for the bike it's paired to. OTHERWISE, you and or the new owner cannot further modify / tune or even revert the bike back to stock as there's no way to talk to it. That could affect its (the bikes) resale price
    My 2014 Ultra had one, never used it once it had tuned the bike, had to trade it with the bike or potentially drop a thousand.
    Lots of threads on it. Some of the other guys may be able to offer further advice. Cheers mate
  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    08 Oct 2019 02:17 PM
    Quoting steelo on 08 Oct 2019 01:33 PMedited: 08 Oct 2019 01:34 PM
    Well done Bogie. My recommendation would be to keep it for the bike it's paired to. OTHERWISE, you and or the new owner cannot further modify / tune or even revert the bike back to stock as there's no way to talk to it. That could affect its (the bikes) resale price
    My 2014 Ultra had one, never used it once it had tuned the bike, had to trade it with the bike or potentially drop a thousand.
    Lots of threads on it. Some of the other guys may be able to offer further advice. Cheers mate
    Great info... thanks.
  • Ratbob Posts: 1061
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    08 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 08 Oct 2019 10:42 AM
    Hi Bogie, how do you know it’s not been used? 
    Quoting Bogie on 08 Oct 2019 12:19 PM
    I bought the motorcycle brand new at harley Heaven and many things were replaced before delivery and I kept them all, including the tuner.
    Good advice from all because the only way of knowing it wasn’t used is if you personally broke open the sealed box and never used it.
    I have an unopened spare and would have liked another.
    When it comes to resale, it’s also a good idea to keep all of the original parts you changed out. 
  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    08 Oct 2019 10:31 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 08 Oct 2019 10:42 AM
    Hi Bogie, how do you know it’s not been used? 
    Quoting Bogie on 08 Oct 2019 12:19 PM
    I bought the motorcycle brand new at harley Heaven and many things were replaced before delivery and I kept them all, including the tuner.
    Quoting Ratbob on 08 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Good advice from all because the only way of knowing it wasn’t used is if you personally broke open the sealed box and never used it.
    I have an unopened spare and would have liked another.
    When it comes to resale, it’s also a good idea to keep all of the original parts you changed out. 
    Yeah, good to know these things... sold my harley breakout on Saturday.  Had it advertised with all orginal parts included and no-one was interested for a long time.  So I kept them all and sold the bike as it is.  
  • Sparra Posts: 1975
    Motor Head Sparra
    09 Oct 2019 06:42 AM
    If the tuner was used on your Breakout , the right thing to do would be to contact the new owner and pass the tuner onto them or at least give them the opportunity to buy it off you..
  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    09 Oct 2019 07:59 AM
    Quoting Sparra on 09 Oct 2019 06:42 AM
    If the tuner was used on your Breakout , the right thing to do would be to contact the new owner and pass the tuner onto them or at least give them the opportunity to buy it off you..
    Yes... I will be doing that now I know.
  • Ratbob Posts: 1061
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    09 Oct 2019 08:50 AM
    Quoting Bogie on 08 Oct 2019 12:19 PM
    I bought the motorcycle brand new at harley Heaven and many things were replaced before delivery and I kept them all, including the tuner.
    Quoting Ratbob on 08 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Good advice from all because the only way of knowing it wasn’t used is if you personally broke open the sealed box and never used it.
    I have an unopened spare and would have liked another.
    When it comes to resale, it’s also a good idea to keep all of the original parts you changed out. 
    Quoting Bogie on 08 Oct 2019 10:31 PM
    Yeah, good to know these things... sold my harley breakout on Saturday.  Had it advertised with all orginal parts included and no-one was interested for a long time.  So I kept them all and sold the bike as it is.  
    Congrats on the sale, not easy these days. 
    Good on ya for keeping the parts. Personally I can’t believe people don’t want the original parts, as we all know, the older a bike gets, the more valuable the original bits. 

    Are you replacing the Breakout?
  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    09 Oct 2019 12:27 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 08 Oct 2019 08:49 PM
    Good advice from all because the only way of knowing it wasn’t used is if you personally broke open the sealed box and never used it.
    I have an unopened spare and would have liked another.
    When it comes to resale, it’s also a good idea to keep all of the original parts you changed out. 
    Quoting Bogie on 08 Oct 2019 10:31 PM
    Yeah, good to know these things... sold my harley breakout on Saturday.  Had it advertised with all orginal parts included and no-one was interested for a long time.  So I kept them all and sold the bike as it is.  
    Quoting Ratbob on 09 Oct 2019 08:50 AM
    Congrats on the sale, not easy these days. 
    Good on ya for keeping the parts. Personally I can’t believe people don’t want the original parts, as we all know, the older a bike gets, the more valuable the original bits. 

    Are you replacing the Breakout?
    No... I think my riding days are over... have a few parts to sell from the bike, including the original parts. The new owner didn't want the sissy bar and once he gets other handlebars I will be getting back the reduced reach handle bar and lines. As the original parts, the sissy bar and handle bars and lines are in perfect condition.harley_breakout_handlebars.jpg


  • Bogie Posts: 119
    Adelaide
    Stock Poster Bogie
    09 Oct 2019 12:52 PM
    The tuner isn't for sale now... thankyou to all that gave information about the tuner... I rang the new owner and said he could have it at no cost... it should have gone with the bike anyway, as I now know. 
  • Baloffski Posts: 1756
    Victoria
    Motor Head Baloffski
    09 Oct 2019 01:29 PM
    Quoting Bogie on 09 Oct 2019 12:52 PM
    The tuner isn't for sale now... thankyou to all that gave information about the tuner... I rang the new owner and said he could have it at no cost... it should have gone with the bike anyway, as I now know. 
    Bogie, good man.
    I for one would appreciate the gesture in these seemingly cut throat days.
  • Soapbox2627 Posts: 3343
    Whyalla South Australia
    Forum Legend Soapbox2627
    09 Oct 2019 10:11 PM
    Humor me


    They say “married to the bike”
    So can’t be used on on other

    How does it know, could you just put it in a new bake And change the tune to suit
    What does it really marry to?

  • SONNY D Posts: 425
    brisbane
    Stage 1 Poster SONNY D
    10 Oct 2019 10:55 AM
    Quoting Soapbox2627 on 09 Oct 2019 10:11 PM
    Humor me


    They say “married to the bike”
    So can’t be used on on other

    How does it know, could you just put it in a new bake And change the tune to suit
    What does it really marry to?

    section 8 in frequently asked questions will answer that for you mate 
    it states that........... 

    Q: Can the user program more than one bike?
     A: No. The Screamin' Eagle Pro Super Tuner VCI is a "single unit" design that permanently"mates" itself to the first ECM that it communicates with. The VCI can then be used an infinitenumber of times to program or record data with it's ECM mate, but will not be able tocommunicate with any other ECM

    hope this helps Cheers Sonny
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