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  • JFE Posts: 1799
    NSW
    Motor Head JFE
    13 Dec 2019 08:42 PM
    You could pay off the XV in that timeframe! Nuts.
  • paulybronco Posts: 12360
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    13 Dec 2019 09:15 PM
    Quoting JFE on 13 Dec 2019 08:42 PMedited: 13 Dec 2019 08:43 PM
    You could pay off the XV in that timeframe! Nuts.
    Hey i hear you
  • Retroman Posts: 1049
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    12 Feb 2020 12:01 AM

    From what I can glean from the 'net it would appear that humidity/corrosion is the culprit over many years. Corrodes metal components of the airbags.

    My missus has a 2012 Nissan Navara D22 2.5TD. She/we have been PESTERED by Nissan of late to take the car in to the supplying dealer for "airbag replacement".

    Phone calls/emails/direct mail incessantly. So I book the car in , make arrangements to swap work shifts etc etc , real pain in the arse actually.

    So I rocks up on the appointed day roughly 3 weeks ago , to be told "we are ripping the dash apart to replace JUST THE PASSENGER airbag."

    The driver one will be recalled later WTF ? So 2 journeys/ 2 times pain in the arse and the dash opened up TWICE ? Can you imagine the dash rattles after that lot ?

    So the bold me says " Are ye fuck" and I drive away from the workshop.

    Today we get a registered post letter from Nissan and I refuse delivery from the postie ( nice guy). He says " I'm seeing a lot of this folks are well pissed off about it"

    Perth WA has extremely low humidity and there has/have been no airbag problems here apparently. NT and Sydney , both older cars 2002/2003.

    I think it's all part hype meself...

  • paulybronco Posts: 12360
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    12 Feb 2020 10:08 AM
    Quoting Retroman on 12 Feb 2020 12:01 AM

    From what I can glean from the 'net it would appear that humidity/corrosion is the culprit over many years. Corrodes metal components of the airbags.

    My missus has a 2012 Nissan Navara D22 2.5TD. She/we have been PESTERED by Nissan of late to take the car in to the supplying dealer for "airbag replacement".

    Phone calls/emails/direct mail incessantly. So I book the car in , make arrangements to swap work shifts etc etc , real pain in the arse actually.

    So I rocks up on the appointed day roughly 3 weeks ago , to be told "we are ripping the dash apart to replace JUST THE PASSENGER airbag."

    The driver one will be recalled later WTF ? So 2 journeys/ 2 times pain in the arse and the dash opened up TWICE ? Can you imagine the dash rattles after that lot ?

    So the bold me says " Are ye fuck" and I drive away from the workshop.

    Today we get a registered post letter from Nissan and I refuse delivery from the postie ( nice guy). He says " I'm seeing a lot of this folks are well pissed off about it"

    Perth WA has extremely low humidity and there has/have been no airbag problems here apparently. NT and Sydney , both older cars 2002/2003.

    I think it's all part hype meself...

    Its rather interesting that you feel its such a hassle and inconvenience.....i personally see death or disfigurement awfully more inconvenient. As for hype.....perhaps your searching the net that provided your insight as to why they are dangerous should respectfully include how many vehicles globally are effected and the fact that manufacturer of these airbags Takata,the largest in the world has gone broke because of the recalls. As for Perth being low humidity shows a total lack of foresight on your behalf. The airbags were not produced in Perth or even Australia, they were made in anyone of the four continents where they had factories, nine alone in Germany. It was at this point the initial problems started with parts that were pitted or already mildly corroded installed. Over time this corrosion weakens the parts and in the case of deployment the parts have no structural integrity and shatter and have killed and maimed enough people to warrant the recall. Just replace the airbags if not for yourself just do it for your family.
  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 596
    Cairns FNQ
    Performance Poster Ken in Cairns
    12 Feb 2020 02:55 PM
    I would have thought the drivers side would have been the first one to get done, that seat is always used.
  • paulybronco Posts: 12360
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    12 Feb 2020 03:06 PM
    Quoting Ken in Cairns on 12 Feb 2020 02:55 PM
    I would have thought the drivers side would have been the first one to get done, that seat is always used.
    Perhaps its a supply issue. The passenger airbags are different to drivers and may be model specific where the passenger ones are perhaps multi fit.
  • Retroman Posts: 1049
    The far west
    Performance Poster Retroman
    12 Feb 2020 07:18 PM
    Quoting Retroman on 12 Feb 2020 12:01 AM

    From what I can glean from the 'net it would appear that humidity/corrosion is the culprit over many years. Corrodes metal components of the airbags.

    My missus has a 2012 Nissan Navara D22 2.5TD. She/we have been PESTERED by Nissan of late to take the car in to the supplying dealer for "airbag replacement".

    Phone calls/emails/direct mail incessantly. So I book the car in , make arrangements to swap work shifts etc etc , real pain in the arse actually.

    So I rocks up on the appointed day roughly 3 weeks ago , to be told "we are ripping the dash apart to replace JUST THE PASSENGER airbag."

    The driver one will be recalled later WTF ? So 2 journeys/ 2 times pain in the arse and the dash opened up TWICE ? Can you imagine the dash rattles after that lot ?

    So the bold me says " Are ye fuck" and I drive away from the workshop.

    Today we get a registered post letter from Nissan and I refuse delivery from the postie ( nice guy). He says " I'm seeing a lot of this folks are well pissed off about it"

    Perth WA has extremely low humidity and there has/have been no airbag problems here apparently. NT and Sydney , both older cars 2002/2003.

    I think it's all part hype meself...

    Quoting paulybronco on 12 Feb 2020 10:08 AM
    Its rather interesting that you feel its such a hassle and inconvenience.....i personally see death or disfigurement awfully more inconvenient. As for hype.....perhaps your searching the net that provided your insight as to why they are dangerous should respectfully include how many vehicles globally are effected and the fact that manufacturer of these airbags Takata,the largest in the world has gone broke because of the recalls. As for Perth being low humidity shows a total lack of foresight on your behalf. The airbags were not produced in Perth or even Australia, they were made in anyone of the four continents where they had factories, nine alone in Germany. It was at this point the initial problems started with parts that were pitted or already mildly corroded installed. Over time this corrosion weakens the parts and in the case of deployment the parts have no structural integrity and shatter and have killed and maimed enough people to warrant the recall. Just replace the airbags if not for yourself just do it for your family.

    It is indeed a hassle and an inconvenience. doubled in this case ! If the airbags are fugged they are both fugged why not both being replaced at the same time ?

    I worked for GM for 15 years , and have quite some experience with Hyundai and Daihatsu as well so I understand car makers and dealers.

    Personal experience of many manufacturer recalls over the years. For absolute fact many cars have had the exact same aged "new" airbags installed into them !

    I repeat the local area humidity is a major cause of "the problem" , and that is not a problem in Perth WA.

    There is no doubt that I am at far more personal risk every time I ride my Harley than I ever will be driving this 2012 Navara.

    Once Nissan Australia can do both airbags at the same time they can disembowel the dashboard ONCE only.

  • paulybronco Posts: 12360
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    12 Feb 2020 08:24 PM
    Quoting Retroman on 12 Feb 2020 12:01 AM

    From what I can glean from the 'net it would appear that humidity/corrosion is the culprit over many years. Corrodes metal components of the airbags.

    My missus has a 2012 Nissan Navara D22 2.5TD. She/we have been PESTERED by Nissan of late to take the car in to the supplying dealer for "airbag replacement".

    Phone calls/emails/direct mail incessantly. So I book the car in , make arrangements to swap work shifts etc etc , real pain in the arse actually.

    So I rocks up on the appointed day roughly 3 weeks ago , to be told "we are ripping the dash apart to replace JUST THE PASSENGER airbag."

    The driver one will be recalled later WTF ? So 2 journeys/ 2 times pain in the arse and the dash opened up TWICE ? Can you imagine the dash rattles after that lot ?

    So the bold me says " Are ye fuck" and I drive away from the workshop.

    Today we get a registered post letter from Nissan and I refuse delivery from the postie ( nice guy). He says " I'm seeing a lot of this folks are well pissed off about it"

    Perth WA has extremely low humidity and there has/have been no airbag problems here apparently. NT and Sydney , both older cars 2002/2003.

    I think it's all part hype meself...

    Quoting paulybronco on 12 Feb 2020 10:08 AM
    Its rather interesting that you feel its such a hassle and inconvenience.....i personally see death or disfigurement awfully more inconvenient. As for hype.....perhaps your searching the net that provided your insight as to why they are dangerous should respectfully include how many vehicles globally are effected and the fact that manufacturer of these airbags Takata,the largest in the world has gone broke because of the recalls. As for Perth being low humidity shows a total lack of foresight on your behalf. The airbags were not produced in Perth or even Australia, they were made in anyone of the four continents where they had factories, nine alone in Germany. It was at this point the initial problems started with parts that were pitted or already mildly corroded installed. Over time this corrosion weakens the parts and in the case of deployment the parts have no structural integrity and shatter and have killed and maimed enough people to warrant the recall. Just replace the airbags if not for yourself just do it for your family.
    Quoting Retroman on 12 Feb 2020 07:18 PM

    It is indeed a hassle and an inconvenience. doubled in this case ! If the airbags are fugged they are both fugged why not both being replaced at the same time ?

    I worked for GM for 15 years , and have quite some experience with Hyundai and Daihatsu as well so I understand car makers and dealers.

    Personal experience of many manufacturer recalls over the years. For absolute fact many cars have had the exact same aged "new" airbags installed into them !

    I repeat the local area humidity is a major cause of "the problem" , and that is not a problem in Perth WA.

    There is no doubt that I am at far more personal risk every time I ride my Harley than I ever will be driving this 2012 Navara.

    Once Nissan Australia can do both airbags at the same time they can disembowel the dashboard ONCE only.

    I did make reference to the potential reasons why that may happen. As for your experience i was the half Owner/GM of a major car franchise having started in the motorcycle industry initially. So now the dick wagging is out of the way....faced with the facts that the ORIGIN of the fault comes from overseas your local climate has a contributing factor but not the PRIMARY factor in the airbag safety. Get that out of your mind that your Possibly safe, Nissan cant , Takata cant, 100 million cars and manufacturers cant yet you think its hype... I rest my case but urge you to just hold your breath and get the bag changed, if not for you for your family
  • softfat Posts: 276
    Sydney
    Stage 1 Poster softfat
    15 Feb 2020 07:14 AM
    Listening to talkback radio here in Sydney this week and an older retired bloke rings in. Seems he has a 90's Toyota car and he was contacted and told no airbags are made for this car anymore and the company were going to pay him out for the car. He was very disappointed they want to only give him $2800 for the car. Being retired he was asking how was he going to buy another car for $2800.

    Soft...
  • paulybronco Posts: 12360
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    15 Feb 2020 09:43 AM
    Quoting softfat on 15 Feb 2020 07:14 AM
    Listening to talkback radio here in Sydney this week and an older retired bloke rings in. Seems he has a 90's Toyota car and he was contacted and told no airbags are made for this car anymore and the company were going to pay him out for the car. He was very disappointed they want to only give him $2800 for the car. Being retired he was asking how was he going to buy another car for $2800.

    Soft...
    If you read from the initial post this is what has happened to my mates car. He elected to not sell the car at their offer and now has a hire car indefinitely.  The old guy in this example would be in exactly the same boat if the car got crashed or damaged....the insurers would only pay market value $2800 for the car anyway . 
  • Soapbox2627 Posts: 3415
    Whyalla South Australia
    Forum Legend Soapbox2627
    15 Feb 2020 12:47 PM
    Quoting softfat on 15 Feb 2020 07:14 AM
    Listening to talkback radio here in Sydney this week and an older retired bloke rings in. Seems he has a 90's Toyota car and he was contacted and told no airbags are made for this car anymore and the company were going to pay him out for the car. He was very disappointed they want to only give him $2800 for the car. Being retired he was asking how was he going to buy another car for $2800.

    Soft...
    Quoting paulybronco on 15 Feb 2020 09:43 AM
    If you read from the initial post this is what has happened to my mates car. He elected to not sell the car at their offer and now has a hire car indefinitely.  The old guy in this example would be in exactly the same boat if the car got crashed or damaged....the insurers would only pay market value $2800 for the car anyway . 
    you are most likely right pauly, the old guy does not have a choice in an accident and has then got to make something happen from a shit situation, to sell it puts him a shit situation voluntary, crazy talk
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