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  • Joelzy Posts: 7
    Stock Poster Joelzy
    27 Nov 2019 01:33 PM
    So after buying a 2019 fatbob 107 with stage 1,
    Im now upgrading to stage 2.
    I was given the usb key and noticed i was charged $400-$500 at the dealership and unaware what it was. 
    Now enquiring about stage 2 upgrade i asked about if i had to pay for another tune? 
    The service man said no charge for tune it will be included in the $1300 stage 2 cam upgrade. And he said i already had the maximus tuner installed in my bike, so i asked can i tune it myself?  He replied i have to bring the bike into the shop for them to tune it? He also said the unit was installed on the bike somewhere? 

    So what im trying to get my head around is i thought these tuners are so you can connect to the device and do ur own tunning thru a laptop? 

    What am i missing? 

    TIA

  • RossW Posts: 63
    Maitland, NSW
    Stock Poster RossW
    27 Nov 2019 06:51 PM
    Quoting Joelzy on 27 Nov 2019 01:33 PM
    So after buying a 2019 fatbob 107 with stage 1,
    Im now upgrading to stage 2.
    I was given the usb key and noticed i was charged $400-$500 at the dealership and unaware what it was. 
    Now enquiring about stage 2 upgrade i asked about if i had to pay for another tune? 
    The service man said no charge for tune it will be included in the $1300 stage 2 cam upgrade. And he said i already had the maximus tuner installed in my bike, so i asked can i tune it myself?  He replied i have to bring the bike into the shop for them to tune it? He also said the unit was installed on the bike somewhere? 

    So what im trying to get my head around is i thought these tuners are so you can connect to the device and do ur own tunning thru a laptop? 

    What am i missing? 

    TIA

    The one I was provided with didn't come with the cable. You can buy  them separately.
  • Grease Monkey Posts: 848
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    27 Nov 2019 08:08 PM
    Maximus shouldn't be on the bike, it's an interface like you said, download the software to a computer and plug in, just like many others of that ilk.
  • Joelzy Posts: 7
    Stock Poster Joelzy
    28 Nov 2019 03:27 AM
    Quoting Joelzy on 27 Nov 2019 01:33 PM
    So after buying a 2019 fatbob 107 with stage 1,
    Im now upgrading to stage 2.
    I was given the usb key and noticed i was charged $400-$500 at the dealership and unaware what it was. 
    Now enquiring about stage 2 upgrade i asked about if i had to pay for another tune? 
    The service man said no charge for tune it will be included in the $1300 stage 2 cam upgrade. And he said i already had the maximus tuner installed in my bike, so i asked can i tune it myself?  He replied i have to bring the bike into the shop for them to tune it? He also said the unit was installed on the bike somewhere? 

    So what im trying to get my head around is i thought these tuners are so you can connect to the device and do ur own tunning thru a laptop? 

    What am i missing? 

    TIA

    Quoting RossW on 27 Nov 2019 06:51 PMedited: 27 Nov 2019 06:52 PM
    The one I was provided with didn't come with the cable. You can buy  them separately.
    So if i insert usb key into my laptop and download program and get the cable that  connects laptop to bike it should work?

    Or do i need  the actual maximus unit itself? 
    Ie,   cord from bike to maximus unit, to laptop? 
  • RossW Posts: 63
    Maitland, NSW
    Stock Poster RossW
    28 Nov 2019 06:41 AM
    Quoting Joelzy on 27 Nov 2019 01:33 PM
    So after buying a 2019 fatbob 107 with stage 1,
    Im now upgrading to stage 2.
    I was given the usb key and noticed i was charged $400-$500 at the dealership and unaware what it was. 
    Now enquiring about stage 2 upgrade i asked about if i had to pay for another tune? 
    The service man said no charge for tune it will be included in the $1300 stage 2 cam upgrade. And he said i already had the maximus tuner installed in my bike, so i asked can i tune it myself?  He replied i have to bring the bike into the shop for them to tune it? He also said the unit was installed on the bike somewhere? 

    So what im trying to get my head around is i thought these tuners are so you can connect to the device and do ur own tunning thru a laptop? 

    What am i missing? 

    TIA

    Quoting RossW on 27 Nov 2019 06:51 PMedited: 27 Nov 2019 06:52 PM
    The one I was provided with didn't come with the cable. You can buy  them separately.
    Quoting Joelzy on 28 Nov 2019 03:27 AM
    So if i insert usb key into my laptop and download program and get the cable that  connects laptop to bike it should work?

    Or do i need  the actual maximus unit itself? 
    Ie,   cord from bike to maximus unit, to laptop? 
    Ok I misread your post. With mine I got an actual Maximus unit keyed to my bike, but no cable. It sounds as though your dealer has a workshop unit that requires a licence for each bike controlled by a USB dongle. So all you got was the licence and the dongle. So yes, you need to take it back to them or any other workshop with the same unit and bring your dongle.
  • Joelzy Posts: 7
    Stock Poster Joelzy
    28 Nov 2019 06:53 AM
    Quoting RossW on 27 Nov 2019 06:51 PMedited: 27 Nov 2019 06:52 PM
    The one I was provided with didn't come with the cable. You can buy  them separately.
    Quoting Joelzy on 28 Nov 2019 03:27 AM
    So if i insert usb key into my laptop and download program and get the cable that  connects laptop to bike it should work?

    Or do i need  the actual maximus unit itself? 
    Ie,   cord from bike to maximus unit, to laptop? 
    Quoting RossW on 28 Nov 2019 06:41 AM
    Ok I misread your post. With mine I got an actual Maximus unit keyed to my bike, but no cable. It sounds as though your dealer has a workshop unit that requires a licence for each bike controlled by a USB dongle. So all you got was the licence and the dongle. So yes, you need to take it back to them or any other workshop with the same unit and bring your dongle.
    Cheers mate!
    Im still trying to figure this out. 
    I was given a usb dongle when i received the bike.   
    Also the other day i called the service dept and they told me a tuner was fitted to the bike,  but i never took any notice before hand. 
    I think i only paid around $400-$500  on the receipt which stated maximus tuning key. 

    If i find the tuner mounted in the bike does this mean i just get the cable so i can hook it up to a laptop to do my own tunning? 

    As the engine light has come on and running a bit rough just on its 1600klm first service. 
  • Chaser Posts: 279
    Stage 1 Poster Chaser
    28 Nov 2019 12:35 PM
    Quoting Joelzy on 28 Nov 2019 03:27 AM
    So if i insert usb key into my laptop and download program and get the cable that  connects laptop to bike it should work?

    Or do i need  the actual maximus unit itself? 
    Ie,   cord from bike to maximus unit, to laptop? 
    Quoting RossW on 28 Nov 2019 06:41 AM
    Ok I misread your post. With mine I got an actual Maximus unit keyed to my bike, but no cable. It sounds as though your dealer has a workshop unit that requires a licence for each bike controlled by a USB dongle. So all you got was the licence and the dongle. So yes, you need to take it back to them or any other workshop with the same unit and bring your dongle.
    Quoting Joelzy on 28 Nov 2019 06:53 AM
    Cheers mate!
    Im still trying to figure this out. 
    I was given a usb dongle when i received the bike.   
    Also the other day i called the service dept and they told me a tuner was fitted to the bike,  but i never took any notice before hand. 
    I think i only paid around $400-$500  on the receipt which stated maximus tuning key. 

    If i find the tuner mounted in the bike does this mean i just get the cable so i can hook it up to a laptop to do my own tunning? 

    As the engine light has come on and running a bit rough just on its 1600klm first service. 
    I had a 'tune' fitted to a breakout by my mechanic.  i had to buy the Maximus unit from Rollies in Qld (@$720 off memory). He tuned the bike with it and now I have it at home in the cupboard.  If i ever sell the bike, it goes with it as I am told they only do THAT particular bike.
  • BLKDG Posts: 20
    Perth, Western Australia
    Stock Poster BLKDG
    28 Nov 2019 01:19 PM
    Quoting Joelzy on 27 Nov 2019 01:33 PM
    So after buying a 2019 fatbob 107 with stage 1,
    Im now upgrading to stage 2.
    I was given the usb key and noticed i was charged $400-$500 at the dealership and unaware what it was. 
    Now enquiring about stage 2 upgrade i asked about if i had to pay for another tune? 
    The service man said no charge for tune it will be included in the $1300 stage 2 cam upgrade. And he said i already had the maximus tuner installed in my bike, so i asked can i tune it myself?  He replied i have to bring the bike into the shop for them to tune it? He also said the unit was installed on the bike somewhere? 

    So what im trying to get my head around is i thought these tuners are so you can connect to the device and do ur own tunning thru a laptop? 

    What am i missing? 

    TIA

    Essentially for $400 you’re buying a licence and USB for unlimited tunes on that particular bike. The shop has a master key and equipment to perform the tune itself and has it backed up on your dongle along with OEM parameters to revert back to stock if need be.

    If you want to have a play yourself, you need to basically spend double for a stand-alone tuner with cables for DIY adjustments.
  • Joelzy Posts: 7
    Stock Poster Joelzy
    28 Nov 2019 02:21 PM
    Quoting Joelzy on 27 Nov 2019 01:33 PM
    So after buying a 2019 fatbob 107 with stage 1,
    Im now upgrading to stage 2.
    I was given the usb key and noticed i was charged $400-$500 at the dealership and unaware what it was. 
    Now enquiring about stage 2 upgrade i asked about if i had to pay for another tune? 
    The service man said no charge for tune it will be included in the $1300 stage 2 cam upgrade. And he said i already had the maximus tuner installed in my bike, so i asked can i tune it myself?  He replied i have to bring the bike into the shop for them to tune it? He also said the unit was installed on the bike somewhere? 

    So what im trying to get my head around is i thought these tuners are so you can connect to the device and do ur own tunning thru a laptop? 

    What am i missing? 

    TIA

    Quoting BLKDG on 28 Nov 2019 01:19 PMedited: 28 Nov 2019 01:21 PM
    Essentially for $400 you’re buying a licence and USB for unlimited tunes on that particular bike. The shop has a master key and equipment to perform the tune itself and has it backed up on your dongle along with OEM parameters to revert back to stock if need be.

    If you want to have a play yourself, you need to basically spend double for a stand-alone tuner with cables for DIY adjustments.
    Cheers Bloke all makes sense now!
    Just wish he didnt say the tuner was installed lin the bike to confuse my situation. 

  • Grease Monkey Posts: 848
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    28 Nov 2019 06:41 PM
    Quoting Joelzy on 27 Nov 2019 01:33 PM
    So after buying a 2019 fatbob 107 with stage 1,
    Im now upgrading to stage 2.
    I was given the usb key and noticed i was charged $400-$500 at the dealership and unaware what it was. 
    Now enquiring about stage 2 upgrade i asked about if i had to pay for another tune? 
    The service man said no charge for tune it will be included in the $1300 stage 2 cam upgrade. And he said i already had the maximus tuner installed in my bike, so i asked can i tune it myself?  He replied i have to bring the bike into the shop for them to tune it? He also said the unit was installed on the bike somewhere? 

    So what im trying to get my head around is i thought these tuners are so you can connect to the device and do ur own tunning thru a laptop? 

    What am i missing? 

    TIA

    Quoting BLKDG on 28 Nov 2019 01:19 PMedited: 28 Nov 2019 01:21 PM
    Essentially for $400 you’re buying a licence and USB for unlimited tunes on that particular bike. The shop has a master key and equipment to perform the tune itself and has it backed up on your dongle along with OEM parameters to revert back to stock if need be.

    If you want to have a play yourself, you need to basically spend double for a stand-alone tuner with cables for DIY adjustments.
    Quoting Joelzy on 28 Nov 2019 02:21 PM
    Cheers Bloke all makes sense now!
    Just wish he didnt say the tuner was installed lin the bike to confuse my situation. 

    Guess he ment the tune was installed not the tuner, I overlooked the USB bit, that's the giveaway with the cost.....not sure what they charge for a key but that doesn't leave a lot for the actual tune, just saying.
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