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  • Birtyyy Posts: 145
    Melbourne
    Stock Poster Birtyyy
    29 Nov 2019 07:51 AM
    My missus rides a Street 500. Rides to work everyday. Yesterday she had to go into Richmond for a meeting, not to her normal office. Parked on the footpath where there was some construction going on nearby. Far enough away that she felt like she wasn't obstructing the crew or the driveway. Two of the guys on the site noticed her parking there and paid her no attention.

    Couple of hours later she came out to jump on the bike and head back to work and found her indicators stuck on (not flashing, constantly on) so she rang me. I had no idea what would cause this so she rang Harley assist and they sent a tech out. While she was waiting she called me again because she realised her bike had been moved. Tech couldn't fix it so they put it on a truck and sent it to the dealer. He said someone had not only moved it but they had done something to try and disable the alarm.

    She went to the guys doing construction and they admitted to moving the bike because they claimed it was in the way. She told them that now the bike was inoperable and needed to be towed and they couldn't care less, she asked for their names, company name etc and got nothing. Cop shop was couple of hundred metres away so she went and spoke to them but they said it's a civil matter and didn't want to get involved. She lost the rest of that day of work and today she's stuck taking the bus.

    Hoping the dealer will be able to look at it today and see what's happened, I'm quite sure it's not going to be anything major at all but I think that's beside the point. I reckon I would've absolutely lost my shit if I was in that situation, what would you have done?
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2703
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    29 Nov 2019 08:45 AM
    Quoting Birtyyy on 29 Nov 2019 07:51 AM
    My missus rides a Street 500. Rides to work everyday. Yesterday she had to go into Richmond for a meeting, not to her normal office. Parked on the footpath where there was some construction going on nearby. Far enough away that she felt like she wasn't obstructing the crew or the driveway. Two of the guys on the site noticed her parking there and paid her no attention.

    Couple of hours later she came out to jump on the bike and head back to work and found her indicators stuck on (not flashing, constantly on) so she rang me. I had no idea what would cause this so she rang Harley assist and they sent a tech out. While she was waiting she called me again because she realised her bike had been moved. Tech couldn't fix it so they put it on a truck and sent it to the dealer. He said someone had not only moved it but they had done something to try and disable the alarm.

    She went to the guys doing construction and they admitted to moving the bike because they claimed it was in the way. She told them that now the bike was inoperable and needed to be towed and they couldn't care less, she asked for their names, company name etc and got nothing. Cop shop was couple of hundred metres away so she went and spoke to them but they said it's a civil matter and didn't want to get involved. She lost the rest of that day of work and today she's stuck taking the bus.

    Hoping the dealer will be able to look at it today and see what's happened, I'm quite sure it's not going to be anything major at all but I think that's beside the point. I reckon I would've absolutely lost my shit if I was in that situation, what would you have done?
    Birtyyy not much you can do by sound of it. but if I was parking my bike like that. I would walk over to the work men first & ask if it is ok, or would it be in the way. you would think it would be simple to sort out.
  • tussuck Posts: 2101
    Melbourne
    Motor Head tussuck
    29 Nov 2019 08:46 AM
    I agree that they are dicks... However odds on getting those lazy SOBs to do anything is zero as they will have all forgotten and crawl behind their union; unless of course it was one of their bikes.  I give work sites a wide miss just because of this sort of chit, it also helps to have an extremely low expectation of construction workers.!  

    Note the names of the companies and file away for future reference.  These things have a habit of equalling out.  I had a tradie do a chit job for me once and then walk away leaving me with the mess to clean up ... about a grand.  The internet is your friend here..... waited a while and then left then 0/10 feedback on ALL the social media and scoring websites.  Someone somwhere will have seen the feedback and kept on walking to the next tradie (and it would have cost the original dick about 10x the profit and costs of my issue)
  • binnsy Posts: 833
    Performance Poster binnsy
    29 Nov 2019 01:06 PM
    Mate if it turns out to be something major as the builder dudes have messed with the bike, keep in mind there are security cameras on just about every building these days.  Footage may be available to prove a point ??
  • Kris78 Posts: 15
    Sydney
    Stock Poster Kris78
    30 Nov 2019 07:33 AM
    I'd be taking a trip back out there , it wouldn't be hard to work out who those guys work for if your partner remembers the guys. 

    Like said above cameras on sites  also in most streets these days. 
    Speak with the company they work for after finding out that info as it's illegal for a construction worker to move property / vehicles of the public unless they have police assistance.... If police assistance was used your partner would have got a call to move the bike or it would have been towed. 

    The repairs should not be at your cost that's for sure. 
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    30 Nov 2019 10:02 AM
    Just move on! Nothing you can do sadly
  • Far Canal Posts: 1764
    Motor Head Far Canal
    30 Nov 2019 07:22 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 30 Nov 2019 10:02 AM
    Just move on! Nothing you can do sadly
    I agree. Drink some beer or something and be thankful nothing really bad happened to the bike.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    30 Nov 2019 08:49 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 30 Nov 2019 10:02 AM
    Just move on! Nothing you can do sadly
    Quoting Far Canal on 30 Nov 2019 07:22 PM
    I agree. Drink some beer or something and be thankful nothing really bad happened to the bike.
    Absolutely. 
  • Wideglider Posts: 742
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    30 Nov 2019 09:36 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 30 Nov 2019 10:02 AM
    Just move on! Nothing you can do sadly
    Quoting Far Canal on 30 Nov 2019 07:22 PM
    I agree. Drink some beer or something and be thankful nothing really bad happened to the bike.
    Quoting paulybronco on 30 Nov 2019 08:49 PM
    Absolutely. 
    Yeah I know the situation pisses you off, but you've gotta choose your battles - this one would be fruitless. 
  • Birtyyy Posts: 145
    Melbourne
    Stock Poster Birtyyy
    02 Dec 2019 07:49 AM
    Quoting paulybronco on 30 Nov 2019 10:02 AM
    Just move on! Nothing you can do sadly
    Quoting Far Canal on 30 Nov 2019 07:22 PM
    I agree. Drink some beer or something and be thankful nothing really bad happened to the bike.
    Well I did that but the fact remains that the bike is still in the shop and Harley haven't figured out a fix for it and the missus is still stuck catching the bus to work...
  • binnsy Posts: 833
    Performance Poster binnsy
    02 Dec 2019 10:00 AM
    A lot of people saying nothing you can do ??? 
    So let me get this straight, lets change the situation to your new Mercedes CLA that you just picked up.  Some dick head from a building site moves it cause he doesn't like where its parked...Fucks up the electrics or whatever, and thats ok?  nothing you can do?? bullshit they have tampered with your shit, totally illegal and well worth following up.  I wouldn't be letting it go if it were me.  These rats had no right whatsoever to move the bike.  If it were creating a problem and blocking traffic it could be towed if the owner was no contactable, but certainly not moved with such force as to disable the bike.  
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    02 Dec 2019 01:04 PM
    Quoting binnsy on 02 Dec 2019 10:00 AM
    A lot of people saying nothing you can do ??? 
    So let me get this straight, lets change the situation to your new Mercedes CLA that you just picked up.  Some dick head from a building site moves it cause he doesn't like where its parked...Fucks up the electrics or whatever, and thats ok?  nothing you can do?? bullshit they have tampered with your shit, totally illegal and well worth following up.  I wouldn't be letting it go if it were me.  These rats had no right whatsoever to move the bike.  If it were creating a problem and blocking traffic it could be towed if the owner was no contactable, but certainly not moved with such force as to disable the bike.  
    Binnsy your overthinking it mate.....same scenario you just made up and they tow the vehicle to a impound yard then ask you for payment to release the vehicle/bike....is that the better outcome? And what do you think you can do in either situation? Like it or not the bike was moved for a reason, you think.......?
  • binnsy Posts: 833
    Performance Poster binnsy
    02 Dec 2019 02:23 PM
    Quoting binnsy on 02 Dec 2019 10:00 AM
    A lot of people saying nothing you can do ??? 
    So let me get this straight, lets change the situation to your new Mercedes CLA that you just picked up.  Some dick head from a building site moves it cause he doesn't like where its parked...Fucks up the electrics or whatever, and thats ok?  nothing you can do?? bullshit they have tampered with your shit, totally illegal and well worth following up.  I wouldn't be letting it go if it were me.  These rats had no right whatsoever to move the bike.  If it were creating a problem and blocking traffic it could be towed if the owner was no contactable, but certainly not moved with such force as to disable the bike.  
    Quoting paulybronco on 02 Dec 2019 01:04 PM
    Binnsy your overthinking it mate.....same scenario you just made up and they tow the vehicle to a impound yard then ask you for payment to release the vehicle/bike....is that the better outcome? And what do you think you can do in either situation? Like it or not the bike was moved for a reason, you think.......?
    Agree mate, it was moved for a reason but be fucked if anyone had the right to do it.  If it was creating a traffic hazard it can be moved by the police but towed correctly.  it would appear this wasn't the way this bike was moved or it wouldn't be in the mess that its in.  If it was towed by the police a tow authority would need to have been authorized and signed.  I smell a rat, and I reckon that rat was wearing a hard hat !!  Might be jut me but if someone moved my bike without going through the correct channels i wouldn't let up until I found out who that was, and why they think they had the right to do it.  You are correct in saying it would have been towed to an impound yard and there would be a fee to pay, but it would have been towed correctly, not disabled by some dick head from a building site.. Lesson would have been an expensive one, how it sits at the moment is the bike cant be ridden and it certainly is not a civil dispute as was described earlier.  Tamper/interfere with motor vehicle is an offence contained in the Road Safety Act 
    ROAD SAFETY ACT 1986 - SECT 70. (1) A person who, without just cause or excuse, tampers or interferes with a motor vehicle owned by any other person is guilty of an offence. Penalty: 2 penalty units or imprisonment for 14 days.  
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    02 Dec 2019 03:01 PM
    Quoting binnsy on 02 Dec 2019 10:00 AM
    A lot of people saying nothing you can do ??? 
    So let me get this straight, lets change the situation to your new Mercedes CLA that you just picked up.  Some dick head from a building site moves it cause he doesn't like where its parked...Fucks up the electrics or whatever, and thats ok?  nothing you can do?? bullshit they have tampered with your shit, totally illegal and well worth following up.  I wouldn't be letting it go if it were me.  These rats had no right whatsoever to move the bike.  If it were creating a problem and blocking traffic it could be towed if the owner was no contactable, but certainly not moved with such force as to disable the bike.  
    Quoting paulybronco on 02 Dec 2019 01:04 PM
    Binnsy your overthinking it mate.....same scenario you just made up and they tow the vehicle to a impound yard then ask you for payment to release the vehicle/bike....is that the better outcome? And what do you think you can do in either situation? Like it or not the bike was moved for a reason, you think.......?
    Quoting binnsy on 02 Dec 2019 02:23 PM
    Agree mate, it was moved for a reason but be fucked if anyone had the right to do it.  If it was creating a traffic hazard it can be moved by the police but towed correctly.  it would appear this wasn't the way this bike was moved or it wouldn't be in the mess that its in.  If it was towed by the police a tow authority would need to have been authorized and signed.  I smell a rat, and I reckon that rat was wearing a hard hat !!  Might be jut me but if someone moved my bike without going through the correct channels i wouldn't let up until I found out who that was, and why they think they had the right to do it.  You are correct in saying it would have been towed to an impound yard and there would be a fee to pay, but it would have been towed correctly, not disabled by some dick head from a building site.. Lesson would have been an expensive one, how it sits at the moment is the bike cant be ridden and it certainly is not a civil dispute as was described earlier.  Tamper/interfere with motor vehicle is an offence contained in the Road Safety Act 
    ROAD SAFETY ACT 1986 - SECT 70. (1) A person who, without just cause or excuse, tampers or interferes with a motor vehicle owned by any other person is guilty of an offence. Penalty: 2 penalty units or imprisonment for 14 days.  
    Binnsy  neither one of us knows the real truth of the matter here other than a account of the husband relaying the story via his wife. We all know that human nature tend to diminish our role in events and deflect the major blame to others when relaying a story or incident to others...so just maybe there is a tiny degree of puff in the story , just maybe..
    Lastly is there any other logical reason other than safety or illegally parked that someone would move the bike?
  • Birtyyy Posts: 145
    Melbourne
    Stock Poster Birtyyy
    03 Dec 2019 01:24 PM
    There's no 'puff' in the story mate. We don't need footage or anything, the guys openly admitted to moving the bike. Bike is still at the dealership and they still can't figure out what's wrong with it.

    I am a little surprised at how many of you wouldn't be bothered if someone moved and disabled your bike and left you catching the bus for a week. If you think fucking with someone else's bike is ok, remind me to never invite you round my place.

    Thanks for the support Binnsy. We have contacted the company who took on these contractors to do the work at this site and they are assisting us but until we know what the fix is going to cost we can't really do much.
  • paulybronco Posts: 11960
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    03 Dec 2019 01:55 PM
    Quoting Birtyyy on 03 Dec 2019 01:24 PM
    There's no 'puff' in the story mate. We don't need footage or anything, the guys openly admitted to moving the bike. Bike is still at the dealership and they still can't figure out what's wrong with it.

    I am a little surprised at how many of you wouldn't be bothered if someone moved and disabled your bike and left you catching the bus for a week. If you think fucking with someone else's bike is ok, remind me to never invite you round my place.

    Thanks for the support Binnsy. We have contacted the company who took on these contractors to do the work at this site and they are assisting us but until we know what the fix is going to cost we can't really do much.
    I still sadly don't get it, when the bike was moved the alarm would have sounded and then reset once the bike settled in the new spot. Unless their is visible damage, pulled wires etc the alarm has failed. Other than the tech telling you "  He said someone had not only moved it but they had done something to try and disable the alarm." how did he come to that conclusion.....
  • Birtyyy Posts: 145
    Melbourne
    Stock Poster Birtyyy
    03 Dec 2019 02:32 PM
    Quoting Birtyyy on 03 Dec 2019 01:24 PM
    There's no 'puff' in the story mate. We don't need footage or anything, the guys openly admitted to moving the bike. Bike is still at the dealership and they still can't figure out what's wrong with it.

    I am a little surprised at how many of you wouldn't be bothered if someone moved and disabled your bike and left you catching the bus for a week. If you think fucking with someone else's bike is ok, remind me to never invite you round my place.

    Thanks for the support Binnsy. We have contacted the company who took on these contractors to do the work at this site and they are assisting us but until we know what the fix is going to cost we can't really do much.
    Quoting paulybronco on 03 Dec 2019 01:55 PM
    I still sadly don't get it, when the bike was moved the alarm would have sounded and then reset once the bike settled in the new spot. Unless their is visible damage, pulled wires etc the alarm has failed. Other than the tech telling you "  He said someone had not only moved it but they had done something to try and disable the alarm." how did he come to that conclusion.....
    I agree with you, I don't understand it either. Noone I've spoken to has ever seen all indicators stuck on (not flashing). I couldn't see any damage and I'm thinking maybe he was just guessing because he didn't have any other answer.
  • Far Canal Posts: 1764
    Motor Head Far Canal
    03 Dec 2019 07:47 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 30 Nov 2019 10:02 AM
    Just move on! Nothing you can do sadly
    Quoting Far Canal on 30 Nov 2019 07:22 PM
    I agree. Drink some beer or something and be thankful nothing really bad happened to the bike.
    Quoting Birtyyy on 02 Dec 2019 07:49 AM
    Well I did that but the fact remains that the bike is still in the shop and Harley haven't figured out a fix for it and the missus is still stuck catching the bus to work...
    I concede, catching the bus to work'd be a bummer.
    Was just implying, at least a 20 ton pre-cast concrete panel from worksite had not crushed the bike or someone had run over it with a steamroller then left the scene.
    Nobody likes something happening to their bike, especially when it is done by some other coot.
    Why can't Harley fix 2 blinkers that are stuck on?
    Mrs should use the steering lock when parking bike too.
    Let us know how it pans out.

  • Wideglider Posts: 742
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    03 Dec 2019 10:19 PM
    I do sympathize with you.
    The longer the HD tech takes to diagnose what he should really know (your bike is not the space shuttle),  and subsequent number of bus trips necessary - the more angrier at the construction guys you become. 
  • Birtyyy Posts: 145
    Melbourne
    Stock Poster Birtyyy
    04 Dec 2019 08:41 AM
    Got the bike back last night. They couldn't find what the issue was, just pulled the main fuse and reset the system and now it's all back to normal. So not really a fix but it's going all the same.

    The steering lock on the Street is right on the ignition so she uses it every time she parks. It was on when the incident occurred.

    No out of pocket expense for her also means we won't bother pursuing anything further, I just hope it's not going to be a blow to her confidence in riding and parking around the city.
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