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  • paulybronco Posts: 12331
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    02 Jan 2020 06:18 PM
    Well  Harley are really prostituting their brand and soul with the introduction of a 340cc  parallel twin designed and made in China. Its not beyond the realms of possibility that all Hd are made in China in the future. 
  • JFE Posts: 1793
    NSW
    Motor Head JFE
    02 Jan 2020 07:19 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 02 Jan 2020 06:18 PM
    Well  Harley are really prostituting their brand and soul with the introduction of a 340cc  parallel twin designed and made in China. Its not beyond the realms of possibility that all Hd are made in China in the future. 
    Stuff that. Only copied shite out of China. 

    If things really get that bad for HD, that’s the end of them. I doubt and hope that won’t happen.
  • ralphski Posts: 1099
    Performance Poster ralphski
    02 Jan 2020 08:44 PM
    Street 750 and 500 motorcycles have been made in India for about 6 years now.
    it's only a matter of time 
  • paulybronco Posts: 12331
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    02 Jan 2020 09:01 PM
    Quoting ralphski on 02 Jan 2020 08:44 PM
    Street 750 and 500 motorcycles have been made in India for about 6 years now.
    it's only a matter of time 
    And they both look like fine motorcycles.....NOT!
  • Evo Wide Posts: 169
    Stock Poster Evo Wide
    02 Jan 2020 09:02 PM
    Triumph are made in Thailand.
    Most of the parts on a Harley are made in other countries, if I remember correctly a few years ago the Honda Gold Wing was made in America and it had more American made parts than the Harleys.
    I will stick with my Evo, 26 years old and the chrome is like new
  • paulybronco Posts: 12331
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    02 Jan 2020 09:05 PM
    Quoting Evo Wide on 02 Jan 2020 09:02 PM
    Triumph are made in Thailand.
    Most of the parts on a Harley are made in other countries, if I remember correctly a few years ago the Honda Gold Wing was made in America and it had more American made parts than the Harleys.
    I will stick with my Evo, 26 years old and the chrome is like new
    Some Triumphs are made in Thailand not all........Indian , i believe is the only true American bike
  • Evo Wide Posts: 169
    Stock Poster Evo Wide
    02 Jan 2020 11:10 PM
    Quoting Evo Wide on 02 Jan 2020 09:02 PM
    Triumph are made in Thailand.
    Most of the parts on a Harley are made in other countries, if I remember correctly a few years ago the Honda Gold Wing was made in America and it had more American made parts than the Harleys.
    I will stick with my Evo, 26 years old and the chrome is like new
    Quoting paulybronco on 02 Jan 2020 09:05 PM
    Some Triumphs are made in Thailand not all........Indian , i believe is the only true American bike
    Speed Triples, Tigers, Explorer and Rockets are still made in England, the rest are made in Thailand.

  • grooveyguru Posts: 55
    Stock Poster grooveyguru
    09 Jan 2020 08:58 PM
    I am from a spares background and I have seen Harley parts with Made in China next to the part number Honda parts made in Thailand and India as well as China. Triumph mufflers are now Chromed in India, not sure where they are made though. Unfortunately its the way of the world now, but things change, when I was a kid, if you got a toy that was made in Japan, it was in the rubbish bin the next day, now people are proud to have a car that is made in Japan if they can find one.
  • Grease Monkey Posts: 842
    Performance Poster Grease Monkey
    09 Jan 2020 09:07 PM
    Quoting ralphski on 02 Jan 2020 08:44 PM
    Street 750 and 500 motorcycles have been made in India for about 6 years now.
    it's only a matter of time 
    Quoting paulybronco on 02 Jan 2020 09:01 PM
    And they both look like fine motorcycles.....NOT!
    Yeah they not real comfortable to ride either, took a 750 for a spin, I'd rather walk or ride a Honda 90 step through.
  • Mr.Mow Posts: 626
    Melbourne
    Performance Poster Mr.Mow
    11 Jan 2020 07:07 AM
    Having got back this year from custom shows in Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand this year, two of which I was an invited guest and judge I can tell you these are the new markets, big emerging cashed up middle classes (still generally lower income than western nations though) who want bikes and they want Harley’s, they absolutely love the whole customising scene and they love the big twins but taxation and income don’t generally allow them to get the big bikes.
    there’s always going to be a market for the big twins but look at the sales world wide, they’re dying out. They need to adapt or die. 
    Baby boomers are done, Gen X have probably only got a couple more buying cycles in us, gen Y through to millennial aren’t as interested. Harley aren’t what they were in the 60s, but to be fair they’re one of the companies out there really pushing new markets. Hell they did it with aermacchi in the 70s.

    Porsche went through the same thing with the Boxster and Cayanne ‘not 911 so not real porsche’, saved the company, you can still buy a ‘real’ 911 (or whatever the newest equivalent is).
  • carbon fibre Posts: 413
    Stage 1 Poster carbon fibre
    11 Jan 2020 09:24 AM
    Quoting ralphski on 02 Jan 2020 08:44 PM
    Street 750 and 500 motorcycles have been made in India for about 6 years now.
    it's only a matter of time 
    Quoting paulybronco on 02 Jan 2020 09:01 PM
    And they both look like fine motorcycles.....NOT!
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 09 Jan 2020 09:07 PM
    Yeah they not real comfortable to ride either, took a 750 for a spin, I'd rather walk or ride a Honda 90 step through.
    Beats walking, wouldnt be seen dead on step through. LOL.

    HD Forums Australia - Street.jpg

  • Soapbox2627 Posts: 3411
    Whyalla South Australia
    Forum Legend Soapbox2627
    11 Jan 2020 11:17 AM
    Quoting Mr.Mow on 11 Jan 2020 07:07 AMedited: 11 Jan 2020 07:12 AM
    Having got back this year from custom shows in Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand this year, two of which I was an invited guest and judge I can tell you these are the new markets, big emerging cashed up middle classes (still generally lower income than western nations though) who want bikes and they want Harley’s, they absolutely love the whole customising scene and they love the big twins but taxation and income don’t generally allow them to get the big bikes.
    there’s always going to be a market for the big twins but look at the sales world wide, they’re dying out. They need to adapt or die. 
    Baby boomers are done, Gen X have probably only got a couple more buying cycles in us, gen Y through to millennial aren’t as interested. Harley aren’t what they were in the 60s, but to be fair they’re one of the companies out there really pushing new markets. Hell they did it with aermacchi in the 70s.

    Porsche went through the same thing with the Boxster and Cayanne ‘not 911 so not real porsche’, saved the company, you can still buy a ‘real’ 911 (or whatever the newest equivalent is).

    I got a bit of stink with the wifes boxter not being a real porsche, it gets called a "the hyundi" among other things, mainly by guys that own Holden Cruse or Ford Mavarick

    the Macan is getting the rub now, I had one as a loan car during a service, they are a nice car

    to replace with a new Boxter it around $140K, not a huge amount of money these days, compared to a 911 $348k

    there are cheaper Porsche's

  • ralphski Posts: 1099
    Performance Poster ralphski
    11 Jan 2020 11:57 AM
    Quoting Mr.Mow on 11 Jan 2020 07:07 AMedited: 11 Jan 2020 07:12 AM
    Having got back this year from custom shows in Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand this year, two of which I was an invited guest and judge I can tell you these are the new markets, big emerging cashed up middle classes (still generally lower income than western nations though) who want bikes and they want Harley’s, they absolutely love the whole customising scene and they love the big twins but taxation and income don’t generally allow them to get the big bikes.
    there’s always going to be a market for the big twins but look at the sales world wide, they’re dying out. They need to adapt or die. 
    Baby boomers are done, Gen X have probably only got a couple more buying cycles in us, gen Y through to millennial aren’t as interested. Harley aren’t what they were in the 60s, but to be fair they’re one of the companies out there really pushing new markets. Hell they did it with aermacchi in the 70s.

    Porsche went through the same thing with the Boxster and Cayanne ‘not 911 so not real porsche’, saved the company, you can still buy a ‘real’ 911 (or whatever the newest equivalent is).
    Quoting Soapbox2627 on 11 Jan 2020 11:17 AM

    I got a bit of stink with the wifes boxter not being a real porsche, it gets called a "the hyundi" among other things, mainly by guys that own Holden Cruse or Ford Mavarick

    the Macan is getting the rub now, I had one as a loan car during a service, they are a nice car

    to replace with a new Boxter it around $140K, not a huge amount of money these days, compared to a 911 $348k

    there are cheaper Porsche's

    $ 348,000...........
    cheap change for you Soapy
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