If you don't mind Ken , let me know excatly which kteck  shocks you bought ,  they quoted me on 2 one at  $1450 fitted one at $2200 fitted , But i will say  when i spoke to them again today to ask which model numbers there quoting on ,, i spoke and asked him  which in his opinion are the best , and he said in his opinion , Kteck are not as well known in Aust but he felt every bit has good has Ohlins ..

Got to be honest don't even know what cartridges are Lol . might look at paying the dollars for the shocks and  looking round for the front  but if i could get  that setup  including powder coating the front black ,for $3500  i'd be in like flyn .... a mate just paid 1200 i think for his wide glide to have progresive springs in the front and the   tubes recromed.

$1200 shit new tubes are about 240 each.

 Cheers thanks for that , very helpful ,,,  You may be right it could be overkill to go the real expensive way ,,, To start with once set up  i'll never touch them , i probably will only do around 5000 klm a year , i have another bike i tend to use more anyway , an adventure style bike ,   maybee them and the race teck stuff for the front with the gold valve things ,  might be a good compromise , i'll have a ring around  and see what other prices i can get  2 grand for the front fitted is probably a real overkill for me , i don't really have a big problem with the standard front  anyway ,,, The guys i have been talking too are not far from me ,in Adelaide   they have a good name for suspension , and usually service my bikes   i've found them to be pretty good and fair in the past , I know he does'nt even like to bother  with cheaper   suspensions , he's sort of adamant there not worth it .

Once again thanks for your imput

Boxa, I bought them from a company called MPE in Caloundra on the Sunshine Coast in April 2018, below is the thread that I done a short review on them. Whichever way you go, Ohlins or K-Tech I am sure you will be pleased with the end result, but as I and many others have suggested, don't do just the back, doing the front also will open your eyes to just how crappy the standard set up is. Good luck with it.

Benno

The Ohlans I have are the Harley style 36, I got mine off a mate he used them on a dyna sport, he got Frank Pons to build them for him longer. he , mate sold the bike with low k's put the stock shocks back on. he had the Ohlans 36 like new in his garage I saw them and he gave them to me cheap. they were better than the stock sporty shocks bike had and raised the bike up at rear. they road hard. then took them to Terry Hayes, they said they could improve them as very old design ( well it was an old sporty anyway ) So give them my forks for them to set up & the Ohlans 36 shocks. the bike is stock hight at front & 1" higher at rear, I can adjust springs and the rear shocks extend another 1.5" but with stock side stand bike leans over a lot more. what I notice with rear shocks adjusted up another 1.5" is the steering becomes real quick. even without the rear shocks adjusted up & just 1" longer than stock can lean over so right up the wall of tyres ( no chick strips ) and does not scape. but as I mentioned it rides hard but does not worry me, as if going fast it smooths out & feels safer at speeds.

everyone different.

I fitted PS 444s to mine  (2012 SG FXDC) to replace the standard shocks which bottomed out on nearly evey bump in the road.

I also had PS HD front spings and new oil done at same time.

Rear end now is much nicer but if you hit a bad hole it still smashes the back but in general pretty good.

I don't think any amount of money will prevent the occasional back breaker but you can get a nicer ride by changing them out

The front end change got rid of a lot of sag in the front legs but now has a clunky feel if you rock forward on the front brake, was not there prior to the spring change.

Bike steers nicer and glides over general bumps but you always have the eye out for a big one if you can.

Like someone else said in this chat HDs are not superbikes but they should go around corners with confidense.

I am spoilt though as I also have a Duke Diaval if I want to nuts which has realy good suspension and handles great but I still cop the occasional back breaker.

Heard good things. 

Only downside is they are not cheap new (but you can occasionally pick up a good second hand set) and if you have to deal with the Aussie distributor it may / may not be painful experience (I personally have not had any troubles but a few others seem to have had problems). A couple of other threads on here about the Fournales dealer

Pretty much got it summed up what i'm after and want , . Its a hard one   theres so many too choose from with so many variations in price .. The place of choice for me was  a local guy , who like i said  has worked on all my bikes , but he's fairly adamant on a few things ,, He will not put racetech  front end with the gold valves , instead he insists that you put  ohlins back  back and front or ktech back and front ,,  but thats just TOOOO expensive

 Anyway to keep it simple   i decided to go racetech on front and one or the other on back ,, One thing that  has become   constant with who i talk to is i don't need the expensive piggy back  stuff ,  a few i've spoke to  have all said if you have back issusses and really need that extra bit of dial in ,  go  the piggy back otherwise its  overkill , this was confirmed by Ken .

For the front  theres a couple around by me  who do the   race tech ,  prices i've got range from $750  to $850 ,  not bad  and that price seems consistant whoever you ring , its around the mark , , , theres 2 guys near me , the 750 one works from home , just started up ,  the 850 guy has been there in his work shop for years , employs an apprentice , so i'm gonna opt to go with him simply because for 100 bucks it helps out  a local buisness pay there rent , most except for my normal mechanic who sprouts the ohlins ktech only   say race tech , gold valve emulaters ect are the way to go .

When it comes down to rear shocks that makes it harder ,, overkill is   what i need to be aware of , i'm no Mick doohan and its a harley not a haybuska on the track ,  so i seem to be offered a lot of choices ,  decided   Ohlins  or ktech , everyone says theres up there and the best , , Now my local guy  who highly recomends them , is the same price has everyone else for the Ktech  he says  1450 fitted ,  but  his price on the ohlins  is $650 -$750  dollars more than others , others are quoting  1700 -1850 fitted , he quotes , $2500 fitted , , but he says to me k tech at $1450  are the way i should go ,    a lot don't deal in them but all say there very good , so i might go that way .

Other interesting thing is  the guy i'm gonna get to do the front end reccomends hagon nitro , not the piggy back the normal ones  with a 10 mill oversize , and there $85 fitte3d .

worth noting for some of you , a few people suggested i put on yss , cos they deal with them , and quoted   around the $!600 dollar mark ,, but yss direct sells a front end and rear shock kit for $1000 , plus $200 for heavy duty .

So all in all you ring around , try and do your homework and the options and prices vary so much you or at least i did get an headache , and confuse yourself ,  thats why i've decided , not to go with the yss and save heaps , or the  hagons  and save heaps , i'm gonna stick to either ohlins or ktech .

But what i am gonna do , cos i think its only fair is my local guy who like i said  done 3 services for me  , and worked on my rocket gearbox in the last 12 months  , i'm gonna go in and ask him to explain why he's actually  $650 and $800  dearer  than two others for the same shock   who knows , maybee he is getting his ass spanked by Ohlins he's   a reccomended dealer for them  they may be charging him heaps more , it does happen   , i found when i was working my supplier was charging me around  20 % more  than guys buying a quarter of what i was , i was constantly having to check and re check  , I'' let him know ,   if the response is a so what he can get stuffed , he'll lose my buisness altogether .

PS , You REALLY REALLY  should phone around , because  for the same shock it was not unusual to find  $300 - $500 variations in price  ,  most did'nt kow or want to tell me EXCATLY what  model shock i was getting  , after doing homework , thats when i started to relize the big differences in price

ex .. hagons nitron , non piggy ,,  one mob $1200 , my local guy $885

  Yss $1600  direct to yss $750   or  a full front and back kit for $1000

 Ohlins stx 36 blacklines series 762 ,,    one mob . $1600 ---- someone else $1750 ... elsewhere , $2500 , with the ohlin distributer  being the expensive one

Do your homework or get your arse spanked

Bit of a weird attitude by your normal guy, as long as the components are matched and balanced there is no problem. Perhaps he doesn't have the equipment to test and adjust suspension gear, or has had something happen in the past. The gold valves are adjustable, but it is a bit more involved as you have to pull then out of the fork tubes to do it 

Actually  , Just got back from going round to see my local fella ,, He has always been good ,  and always seems to really know his job , i know for a fact he's a send it too guy the dealers uses when they can't sort stuff out ,, last year  gearbox problems with the rocket , dealer  and his mechanics , could'nt  or would'nt tell me what was wrong ,  started quoting 4-5 THOUSAND dollars , went to him he laughed , rode it , said detent spring , 3 bucks to buy $250 to put in , and he was right .

Anyway ,  i went and seen him and told him , look your  miles away with your price on the Ohlins than others ,  does'nt matter i said cos your same on the Ktech and i'm going with them , . he could'nt understand and we went on the site , , turns out  when i told him i don't want the cheaper , not much better shock , he took me at my word , and qouted for  what he called there middle range shock , top of the range would be overkill for a harley , the others have been quoiting a cheaper shock , which he said although  better than harley  are not the bees knees ,,  that he said is why he recommended the k tech ,  a notch above  but not to badly priced ,,, So thats sorted ktech it is ,

Good news is when i asked him why you don't do the race tech valves he said , we do , but i prefer to go like for like , he said if you do the valves springs  and everything  it will be ok but   he would prefer to do ktech front and back , anyway his price for  that was excatly the same  has others , so its booked in let you all know how it works out in a few weeks ,

And thanks for all your imput ,  it makes things a lot easier and  saves heaps of money when you   have good advice   , some of my speils may have been long winded but i'm trying to inform the others who may be like me , and don't know a spanner from a hammer

All the setting up and tuning was one of the reasons I went with Joe, he set the valves and did a full overhaul on the forks, sent them ready to fit up, and I am pretty happy with it how it is, so no mucking about tuning them for the time being and they forks are good for 15000 or so km as are the rear shocks.

UPDATE .... Well got the bike back last friday , not had time to take it out until this morning  ,  I got the raceteck springs and vaves  plus oil , new seals ect on the front ,   I was quoted $860 , it came in at $920  was'nt gonna argue over  60 bucks   $850-860 was the price most quoted me   one guy working from home quoted $770  , but he had no overheads , so the guys with overheads get the job .

K teck shocks , next one down from piggy back , but reputedly very good  $quoted $1450 fitted ,  but  they came in at $1350  , no charge for fitting , so all in all  , twas 40 bucks cheaper than quoted . for the whole job . ..... Now performance

Well the front , i noticed BEFORE i rode it home , just pulling it of the stand , it seemed  stiffer and heavier , riding home definetly  not has light , but  it was better ,, went for a ride today , yep , the front is definetly stiffer and more responsive   does'nt bounce and waiver  ,  think i had just got used to the original  and rode accordingly .  well worth doing .

Now the back ,,, In a prvious post  i said about a mate who put hagon shocks on his   with the sundowner seat , and  i swapped with him and could'nt tell the difference bewteen  mine and his when i put my sundowner seat on ,,, Well this is the same , i can still feel the jar of the bumps   ,  i think   if i just put my sundowner seat on  thicker foam it would have been just has good , the shocks to me anyway hav'nt made a lot of difference   in the   comfort side ,, .

But  in the handling side ,  i was on a favorite bit of road which is twisty and a bit bumpy in places , Bull Creek road for the adelaide guys , and decided to get a giddy up , well i know from the hundreds of times i've done this road theres parts on bends where   i will definetly get that bouncy wallowing feel from the back end if i push it , NOT TODAY  ,  no bouncing , no wallowing , mo awww shit moments , just  felt in control all the time  especielly the front , ,  , so  was it worth the $1350 ,, Mmmm  dunno jurys out , definetly handles a bit better ,    when risking my liscence , but the comfort is'nt what i expected ,  its a bit hard .

But all is not lost , because to be honest its adjustable  and i've not even checked what its on , i may be able to soften it up ,  you can't have everything   and you do have to have a think about what your trying to do    , and really   when my mate bought a low rider same time has me , he changed everything  and still was'nt happy  and my advice to him was simple , i said if you wanted a fooking tourer you should of bought one , not buy a dyna and try and turn it into a tourer . .

I'll adjust the shocks tomoro take it out and if i can get it a bit smoother , softer over the bumps , i'm gonna be one happy chappie , who's  gonna get his cake and eat it ,,, If not  well alls not lost , its more confidence inspiring in the twisty stuff , and i can always put the sundowner seat on  when i want to be a soft cock ,,, Let you know after i've adjusted them , 

But overall ,, the front raceteck , well worth it ,, the rear shocks ,   a softer plusher seat  , up till now would be just has good . But we will see after the adjustment

Talk to the guy who did the job for a value .

Should have some sag with just the bike weight, mine was set to 5 to 10 mm static  and about 35 to 40 with me on it.

Sounds like it a little stiff 

You will need some help doing the measurements.

See what he says about the rebound, might need to come up one.

You can have it relatively comfy and handle good at the same time, it shouldn't be harsh over bumps 

DocGreen