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toughseal paint protection

wello
4 years ago

g,day .. possibly looking at getting the ultra treated with this toughseal product .. has anybody used it and if so how do you rate it ?

tussuck
4 years ago

How much? Its 'just' a ceramic coating - I'm sure I have a writeup somewhere here about the topic.
Is it DIY?

wello
4 years ago

Quoting tussuck on 16 Feb 2020 12:57 PM
How much? Its 'just' a ceramic coating - I'm sure I have a writeup somewhere here about the topic.
Is it DIY?

i ran into a guy while i was down at the new perth harley shop in midland, he was detailing a new bike that was sold (ultra) so i asked him how much to do mine with this toughseal stuff .. i dont think its a ceramic like some other but i could be wrong .
anyway $400 to do entire bike. and hes mobiles so comes to you.

tussuck
4 years ago

Thats not a bad price...IF he does the proper job. Should look like:
• Wash
• Decontamination (iron removal)
• Clay bar
• Wash again after all above
• Paint Correction
o New bike would be single stage (swirl removal)
o Old bike most likely two stage (cut and then swirl removal)
• Ceramic coat (any claims of stuff lasting up to 5 years is total crap - 2 is the norm). NOTE: most of this stuff comes in a 30ml or 50ml bottle and he will use like 10ml-20ml for a bike so make sure you get the bottles when he is done as you will be paying for them. typically thats about $80 - $100 ish of the price.
• Then typically an overcoat for the ceramic whch is the hydrophobic coating (I think that’s the part 1 + part 2 in the toughseal kit)

Could this be $400? Very easily as the cost of the paint correction equipment (and more importantly the actual products) are not cheap. Should take about 2 hours or more. (I can spend 6 hours on a small car to do a proper job)

- Ask what steps he does and see if they fit with above
- Ask what brand of products he uses (there are not that many out there and the diff between chit and god is pretty clear)
- Ask if you 'have' to use a certain brand of product to wash your bike from that point on... In reality any good Meguires or the like will do a good job.

wello
4 years ago

Quoting tussuck on 17 Feb 2020 02:02 AMedited: 17 Feb 2020 02:12 AM
Thats not a bad price...IF he does the proper job. Should look like:
• Wash
• Decontamination (iron removal)
• Clay bar
• Wash again after all above
• Paint Correction
o New bike would be single stage (swirl removal)
o Old bike most likely two stage (cut and then swirl removal)
• Ceramic coat (any claims of stuff lasting up to 5 years is total crap - 2 is the norm). NOTE: most of this stuff comes in a 30ml or 50ml bottle and he will use like 10ml-20ml for a bike so make sure you get the bottles when he is done as you will be paying for them. typically thats about $80 - $100 ish of the price.
• Then typically an overcoat for the ceramic whch is the hydrophobic coating (I think that’s the part 1 + part 2 in the toughseal kit)

Could this be $400? Very easily as the cost of the paint correction equipment (and more importantly the actual products) are not cheap. Should take about 2 hours or more. (I can spend 6 hours on a small car to do a proper job)

- Ask what steps he does and see if they fit with above
- Ask what brand of products he uses (there are not that many out there and the diff between chit and god is pretty clear)
- Ask if you 'have' to use a certain brand of product to wash your bike from that point on... In reality any good Meguires or the like will do a good job.

yeh ive seen the little bottles of that stuff.. look really small.. however this toughseal stuff looks to be quite large bottles.. he says its a ceramic product but its seams to be quite different to the others .. looks more like a normal type of wax in a bottle so be farked if i know .

Soapbox2627
4 years ago

I got 4 bottles of it, will do the Roady one day

wello
4 years ago

spoke to the guy again today .. he says its toughseal ceramic QFX .. apparently u cant buy it and its only distributed to trained detailers , so anyway ive boked him . for next thurs .. only problem i have now is geetin the farkin water stains off by bike ... jeez black is a pain !!!!!!

tussuck
4 years ago

Quoting wello on 17 Feb 2020 01:22 PMedited: 17 Feb 2020 01:23 PM
spoke to the guy again today .. he says its toughseal ceramic QFX .. apparently u cant buy it and its only distributed to trained detailers , so anyway ive boked him . for next thurs .. only problem i have now is geetin the farkin water stains off by bike ... jeez black is a pain !!!!!!

Hang on...
Question: Is he doing any paint preparation at all or 'just' applies the product and that it? You should not have to do a thing in prep.

Soapbox2627
4 years ago

Quoting wello on 17 Feb 2020 01:22 PMedited: 17 Feb 2020 01:23 PM
spoke to the guy again today .. he says its toughseal ceramic QFX .. apparently u cant buy it and its only distributed to trained detailers , so anyway ive boked him . for next thurs .. only problem i have now is geetin the farkin water stains off by bike ... jeez black is a pain !!!!!!

Quoting tussuck on 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PMedited: 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PM
Hang on...
Question: Is he doing any paint preparation at all or 'just' applies the product and that it? You should not have to do a thing in prep.

I had the Ranger done brand new, dropped off for 11, picked up at 2.
he gave me the rest of the bottle
I dont know what prep he done, I'd guess he had lunch also

tussuck
4 years ago

Okay...well I guess if your happy with the outcome then all is good! Perhaps I'm just too OCD...lol

wello
4 years ago

Quoting wello on 17 Feb 2020 01:22 PMedited: 17 Feb 2020 01:23 PM
spoke to the guy again today .. he says its toughseal ceramic QFX .. apparently u cant buy it and its only distributed to trained detailers , so anyway ive boked him . for next thurs .. only problem i have now is geetin the farkin water stains off by bike ... jeez black is a pain !!!!!!

Quoting tussuck on 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PMedited: 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PM
Hang on...
Question: Is he doing any paint preparation at all or 'just' applies the product and that it? You should not have to do a thing in prep.

nah mate , in my infinite wisdom i decided to clean my brand new bike as it was covered in dust from a ride the day before .. so i hosed it down and then decided to used the blower vac on it to dry it off .. i thought i had done a good job at first , looked great in the garage.. but then i wheeled it outside in the sunlight and faaaaaaaark what a mess !!!!
i normaly dry off with a shammy but i didnt want to put any blemished on the new paint .. that didnt work out as planned so now i gotta go get something to remove all the water stain marks .

tussuck
4 years ago

Quoting wello on 17 Feb 2020 01:22 PMedited: 17 Feb 2020 01:23 PM
spoke to the guy again today .. he says its toughseal ceramic QFX .. apparently u cant buy it and its only distributed to trained detailers , so anyway ive boked him . for next thurs .. only problem i have now is geetin the farkin water stains off by bike ... jeez black is a pain !!!!!!

Quoting tussuck on 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PMedited: 17 Feb 2020 08:28 PM
Hang on...
Question: Is he doing any paint preparation at all or 'just' applies the product and that it? You should not have to do a thing in prep.

Quoting wello on 18 Feb 2020 12:53 AM
nah mate , in my infinite wisdom i decided to clean my brand new bike as it was covered in dust from a ride the day before .. so i hosed it down and then decided to used the blower vac on it to dry it off .. i thought i had done a good job at first , looked great in the garage.. but then i wheeled it outside in the sunlight and faaaaaaaark what a mess !!!!
i normaly dry off with a shammy but i didnt want to put any blemished on the new paint .. that didnt work out as planned so now i gotta go get something to remove all the water stain marks .

Try a vinegar/water mix for the waterstains as they are normally mineral based.
Shammy = 40 grit sandpaper. Invest in some top notch microfibre towels instead. and hosing down never works....lol..but good try.

JFE
4 years ago

Quality drying towels do a good job, I’ve found. Better than a shammy.

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