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  • micathia Posts: 234
    Stock Poster micathia
    01 Aug 2020 05:51 PM
    This was announced before the previous CEO sacked. So I guess it belongs to his years of failed "street bike appealing young rich kid" strategy. 

    He just tried to do everything to piss you (me) off. 

    On the other hand, data showed that without Chinese market, General Motor would have surely ceased to exist today. Not surprised Harley wants to do the same thing. 

    I reckon they would be more successful if they instead using Harley brand, created another Chinese brand, say...Red Dragon or Cute Panda, etc, and just replica Iron 883 nothing else under that brand. 

    I also think they would be more successful if they made an electric bike that looks like Street Bob. 

    Or even more successful if they made a rubber mount no-balancer Milwaukee 8 model. 

    Oh they are so stupid. Glad to see the head of this stupidy removed. And the first fresh air news I heard was, FXDR 114 will be removed. oh yeah!!!!
  • RossW Posts: 182
    Maitland, NSW
    Stock Poster RossW
    01 Aug 2020 07:36 PM
    Quoting micathia on 01 Aug 2020 05:51 PM
    This was announced before the previous CEO sacked. So I guess it belongs to his years of failed "street bike appealing young rich kid" strategy. 

    He just tried to do everything to piss you (me) off. 

    On the other hand, data showed that without Chinese market, General Motor would have surely ceased to exist today. Not surprised Harley wants to do the same thing. 

    I reckon they would be more successful if they instead using Harley brand, created another Chinese brand, say...Red Dragon or Cute Panda, etc, and just replica Iron 883 nothing else under that brand. 

    I also think they would be more successful if they made an electric bike that looks like Street Bob. 

    Or even more successful if they made a rubber mount no-balancer Milwaukee 8 model. 

    Oh they are so stupid. Glad to see the head of this stupidy removed. And the first fresh air news I heard was, FXDR 114 will be removed. oh yeah!!!!
    The Chinese motorcycle market is very different to ours. They place motorcycles in the same category as bicycles. 

    You can't ride a motorcycle on the motorways for that reason. The whole time I was in Shanghai I probably saw one bike that was more than 125cc and that was a Chian Jang Ural/BMW clone with a sidecar attached. It isn't really a market that HD would play in much without a local partner to build much smaller and cheaper machines. I don't think that would match up with their brand image somehow.

  • shady1964 Posts: 41
    Stock Poster shady1964
    02 Aug 2020 07:10 AM
    They have 44 harley dealers in China....everything harley has a 120% import tax placed on it....a street glide special is $388000 Chinese dollars or $76000 in Australian money....and even a street 500 is $80000 Chinese dollars and believe it or not they sell quite a lot of harleys...i have been to the dealer in guanzhou to have a look. 
  • Rivo Posts: 91
    Chiang Rai Thailand
    Stock Poster Rivo
    02 Aug 2020 11:20 AM
    Quoting shady1964 on 02 Aug 2020 07:10 AM
    They have 44 harley dealers in China....everything harley has a 120% import tax placed on it....a street glide special is $388000 Chinese dollars or $76000 in Australian money....and even a street 500 is $80000 Chinese dollars and believe it or not they sell quite a lot of harleys...i have been to the dealer in guanzhou to have a look. 
    Ive also been to a few HD dealers in South East Asia, Singapore, Vietnam, Bali and the tax is ridiculous at all of them which hugely inflates the price.


    I am currently living in Thailand, I have a few mates with Harleys here, a mate is looking at a new Sportglide, about $50 000 Aud..........Streetglide Special $72 000 Aud...............or a CVO Limited $157 950 Aud...............like car dealers here aswell the advertised price is not negotiable, all fixed prices at every dealer, negotiation is usually what extras the dealers are willing to include in the deal.


    Sportsters are very popular here, under $30 000 Aud and the Thais are more suited to this size bike.


    Thailand has banned personal imports which used be a popular way of getting a HD to Thailand.


    And would you believe motorcycles are not allowed on the motorways around Bangkok, because they say they cannot do the posted speed limits (120 kmh), this includes all bikes, even a Hayabusa lol
  • Neale Posts: 485
    Richmond NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Neale
    02 Aug 2020 05:06 PM
    To me, Looking at the crank cases,it looks like a late model bmw or Yamaha.
  • Mr.Mow Posts: 698
    Melbourne
    Performance Poster Mr.Mow
    03 Aug 2020 10:26 AM
    Haha what’s it matter? Your ‘US’ Harley is probability 50-70% Chinese parts anyway ‘assembled’ in the US.

    The Thai market get kit bikes assembled locally to avoid a lot of taxes, bmw do similar.

    Your Union made with pride in the US with good ole US steel and Pabst drinking blue collar workers is a marketing myth.

    I went to the Ducati factory, big dirty building with 60yo nonnas dropping valves into heads, sauced up factory workers staggering back to the workshop after a long Italian lunch at the pub, nothing romantic about it.
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 3016
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    03 Aug 2020 11:38 AM
    In old day’s we used to worry if our Harleys had parts that came from Japan.
    Who cares , as if you don’ t  like it don’t buy. No need to cry!
  • dicko Posts: 314
    BRANYAN/BUNDABERG
    Stage 1 Poster dicko
    04 Aug 2020 12:33 PM
    Where is the Harley Davidson factory located?
    Harley-Davidson manufactures its motorcycles at factories in York, Pennsylvania; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Kansas City, Missouri (closing); Manaus, Brazil; and Bawal, India. Construction of a new plant in Thailand began in late 2018.

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