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  • micathia Posts: 271
    Stage 1 Poster micathia
    14 Sep 2020 11:25 AM
    Hi

    I know all harleys are heavier on the left side. What I have been bothered with is, I have had three harleys, they all seem to "dog walk" to some degree. 

    On flat ground, if I sit straight up, I can feel the left side is heavier. I have to let the bike lean towards the right to get it to balance itself. On iron 883, this is a small lean, on Softail crossbones, this is significant. 

    As a result, all my bikes are leaning while going straight. So say if on the highway I am going straight, then I look down to the tank, the tank looks like while going to straight (12) but pointing to somewhere between 12 to 1 o'clock direction all the time. (someone called it dog walk in other forums I guess)

    I swear it's not bent frame or wheel alignment issues, all three bikes are doing the same just to a different extent.  


    Anyone has this issue too? 

    thx
  • Soapbox2627 Posts: 3633
    Whyalla South Australia
    Forum Legend Soapbox2627
    14 Sep 2020 02:09 PM
    nice pie mic, mushrooms in it??
  • beaglebasher Posts: 1331
    fuckin everywhere
    Performance Poster beaglebasher
    14 Sep 2020 06:25 PM
    No offence meant mic but I reckon you have a tendency to overthink things.

  • micathia Posts: 271
    Stage 1 Poster micathia
    15 Sep 2020 01:21 PM
    Quoting beaglebasher on 14 Sep 2020 06:25 PM
    No offence meant mic but I reckon you have a tendency to overthink things.

    lol
  • RossW Posts: 208
    Maitland, NSW
    Stock Poster RossW
    15 Sep 2020 05:37 PM
    Quoting micathia on 14 Sep 2020 11:25 AM
    Hi

    I know all harleys are heavier on the left side. What I have been bothered with is, I have had three harleys, they all seem to "dog walk" to some degree. 

    On flat ground, if I sit straight up, I can feel the left side is heavier. I have to let the bike lean towards the right to get it to balance itself. On iron 883, this is a small lean, on Softail crossbones, this is significant. 

    As a result, all my bikes are leaning while going straight. So say if on the highway I am going straight, then I look down to the tank, the tank looks like while going to straight (12) but pointing to somewhere between 12 to 1 o'clock direction all the time. (someone called it dog walk in other forums I guess)

    I swear it's not bent frame or wheel alignment issues, all three bikes are doing the same just to a different extent.  


    Anyone has this issue too? 

    thx
    Not that I've noticed. 
  • skirtster Posts: 208
    Stock Poster skirtster
    15 Sep 2020 07:31 PM
    camber?
  • steelo Posts: 3238
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    15 Sep 2020 08:03 PM
    They probably do weigh more on the left, that's where the primary is. Loaded up for a trip last week, the bike was clearly left side heavy and I felt I was fighting it. Get a small household spirit level (with a magnet) and put it on the tank. Go for a ride in a straight line. That'll tell you.
    level.jpg



  • brucefxdl Posts: 1467
    south west victoria
    Performance Poster brucefxdl
    15 Sep 2020 08:52 PM
    Quoting steelo on 15 Sep 2020 08:03 PMedited: 15 Sep 2020 08:04 PM
    They probably do weigh more on the left, that's where the primary is. Loaded up for a trip last week, the bike was clearly left side heavy and I felt I was fighting it. Get a small household spirit level (with a magnet) and put it on the tank. Go for a ride in a straight line. That'll tell you.
    level.jpg



    good one steelo,thinking outside the box.
  • steelo Posts: 3238
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    15 Sep 2020 09:05 PM
    Nice of you to say Bruce. Might have a look at mine tomorrow.
  • Wideglider Posts: 1086
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    15 Sep 2020 09:20 PM
    Quoting steelo on 15 Sep 2020 08:03 PMedited: 15 Sep 2020 08:04 PM
    They probably do weigh more on the left, that's where the primary is. Loaded up for a trip last week, the bike was clearly left side heavy and I felt I was fighting it. Get a small household spirit level (with a magnet) and put it on the tank. Go for a ride in a straight line. That'll tell you.
    level.jpg



    Think Harley should have something like the spirit level fitted incorporated into the tank or in the dashboard as standard - it is important that level be monitored constantly. 
  • brucefxdl Posts: 1467
    south west victoria
    Performance Poster brucefxdl
    15 Sep 2020 09:23 PM
    Quoting steelo on 15 Sep 2020 09:05 PM
    Nice of you to say Bruce. Might have a look at mine tomorrow.
    haha...got me thinking as well,my slip ons are 1.7 kg lighter than standard mufflers,not sure if i noticed any or much difference at the time. for some unknown reason [ subconcious ]i tend to pack the heavier gear in the right pannier.

  • brucefxdl Posts: 1467
    south west victoria
    Performance Poster brucefxdl
    15 Sep 2020 09:27 PM
    Quoting steelo on 15 Sep 2020 08:03 PMedited: 15 Sep 2020 08:04 PM
    They probably do weigh more on the left, that's where the primary is. Loaded up for a trip last week, the bike was clearly left side heavy and I felt I was fighting it. Get a small household spirit level (with a magnet) and put it on the tank. Go for a ride in a straight line. That'll tell you.
    level.jpg



    Quoting Wideglider on 15 Sep 2020 09:20 PM
    Think Harley should have something like the spirit level fitted incorporated into the tank or in the dashboard as standard - it is important that level be monitored constantly. 
    you might be on to something WGer........lol...be fun watching the bubble through twisties.
  • Soapbox2627 Posts: 3633
    Whyalla South Australia
    Forum Legend Soapbox2627
    15 Sep 2020 10:01 PM
    now we all know why the stand is on the left side
    or
    is that the cause of the left side being heavier?
  • ratly Posts: 11
    Stock Poster ratly
    16 Sep 2020 05:48 AM
     that is very good  thinking about the spirit level,  but you would have to check the level was level,other wise it would not be a level and do the intended job, also having a spirit level incorperated in the bike was a good idea, because as we know not every one is on the level. Ratly
  • Evo Posts: 429
    S/E Qld
    Stage 1 Poster Evo
    16 Sep 2020 07:32 AM
    You might have too much blinker fluid on the left side.  Recommend draining them all and refilling...
  • micathia Posts: 271
    Stage 1 Poster micathia
    16 Sep 2020 07:53 AM
    that's it! You know what? I quit. I am gonna switch to Japanese bikes as they look after my need. 

    Will sell my 2016 wide glide and 2008 crossbones $5000 each coz that's how they worth in my eyes now! no more Harley!


  • steelo Posts: 3238
    Adelaide
    Forum Legend steelo
    16 Sep 2020 08:23 AM
    Quoting micathia on 16 Sep 2020 07:53 AM
    that's it! You know what? I quit. I am gonna switch to Japanese bikes as they look after my need. 

    Will sell my 2016 wide glide and 2008 crossbones $5000 each coz that's how they worth in my eyes now! no more Harley!


    Noiooo. Don’t do it m. Went for a ride to a hills cafe yesterday. All the old grey haired fellas on their jap road rockets dressed up like power rangers in 1 piece leather suits. Not a great look for me. I’d look like a telly tubby. (No not the gay one)
    Actually. Wonder if the fat bob was not originally called the string bob?  They really do have a lean on em. 
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 3096
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    16 Sep 2020 08:30 AM
    they have always been that way, when I went to open 3" belt primary, with no starter motor ( kick start only ) it seemed a bit more evenly balanced. but when riding, I've never really noticed. Some Choppers I've seen with offset motor & gear box, so they can fit a really fat rear wheel. they have a big problem with balanced off to one side.
  • Ratbob Posts: 1348
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    16 Sep 2020 09:46 AM
    Quoting micathia on 16 Sep 2020 07:53 AM
    that's it! You know what? I quit. I am gonna switch to Japanese bikes as they look after my need. 

    Will sell my 2016 wide glide and 2008 crossbones $5000 each coz that's how they worth in my eyes now! no more Harley!


    Excellent idea, I’ll take em.
    Get off the chemicals first, they must be affecting your judgement cause no one would buy a Harley based on performance or think they’d look after your needs, you nutter. :-)
  • Ratbob Posts: 1348
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    16 Sep 2020 09:54 AM
    Quoting micathia on 16 Sep 2020 07:53 AM
    that's it! You know what? I quit. I am gonna switch to Japanese bikes as they look after my need. 

    Will sell my 2016 wide glide and 2008 crossbones $5000 each coz that's how they worth in my eyes now! no more Harley!


    Quoting steelo on 16 Sep 2020 08:23 AMedited: 16 Sep 2020 08:30 AM
    Noiooo. Don’t do it m. Went for a ride to a hills cafe yesterday. All the old grey haired fellas on their jap road rockets dressed up like power rangers in 1 piece leather suits. Not a great look for me. I’d look like a telly tubby. (No not the gay one)
    Actually. Wonder if the fat bob was not originally called the string bob?  They really do have a lean on em. 
    Dunno Steelo which is worse, the Power Ranger look or the badge laden wannabe bikie pirate look?
    Viva la difference.

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