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2015 Street bob not starting

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  • land_lubber
    land_lubber
    6 years ago
  • land_lubber
    land_lubber
    6 years ago
    Tried a new battery and its still doing the same. What could it be? starter motor?
  • steelo
    steelo
    6 years ago
    Here's an old thread with some problem solving tips.
    Do you need to pull clutch in to start?
    Check bike not seized / binding put in 6th and push without clutch.
    Amongst others.
  • Ken in Cairns
    Ken in Cairns
    6 years ago

    Wow it really kills it when you try and start it.

    I think the loud clunk you hear in the video is the starter solenoid operating, so it sounds like that is at least trying, but a poor contact in there will cause issues, but not the dying dash lights.

    I'm wondering if the actual starter motor windings are OK as well, but I would have thought if it was dead short in there it would blow the fuse.

    Could have an open circuit in the motor winding, but that also will not make the dash lights go out.

    Have a look at the earth cables, a loose earth will cause a high current draw, but maybe not enough to blow the fuse.

    You may have to pull the starter motor out and bench test it to rule it out as the cause or not.

    If you can hook a battery up the starter motor directly with jumper cables (disconnect the bike battery first) you may be able to see if it turns the bike over, quick and dirty if you don't want to yank the starter motor out unless it fails this test.

    Sorry I can't help more at this stage.

    Cheers

    Ken

     


  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    6 years ago
    Does this motor have any wk done......thinking the auto decompression are not working and the std starter cant turn her over.....
  • steelo
    steelo
    6 years ago
    I think I read somewhere, if battery / replacement OK, bike in 6th gear will roll, starter motor could be jammed and to try tapping on something somewhere to free it.
  • steelo
    steelo
    6 years ago
    6th easier to push, also could tell if starter binding. Whip plugs out as option
  • mickle
    mickle
    6 years ago
    Put a set of jumper leads on it, just because you have a new Battery don't mean it was fully charged, if that's your
    volt meter readout on your tank it should be 12.9v or better.
  • srd0060
    srd0060
    6 years ago
    It sounds like the start is lockecked in on the flywheel. Pull the primary cover off and have a look. 
  • Ken in Cairns
    Ken in Cairns
    6 years ago

    Try with the plugs out first, just have the plugs touching the head or earthed to the bike with wire so you don't damage your ignition system (not sure if the Harleys suffer this, but some vehicle ECU's do not like it).

    It will also make it easier to push and turn over.

    My decompression valves had been turned off in the software when I got my bike, could hear it slow down and labour the starter motor, especially when it was hot,  but it always started after it turned over a few times, they are now turned on and gee it winds over fast now :)

    Keep us updated :)

    Good Luck.



  • carbon fibre
    carbon fibre
    6 years ago
    Put a fresh battery in it, EFI wont fire if volts are below a certain level, 11. sumpin I think.
  • srd0060
    srd0060
    6 years ago
    Any update?
  • Ken in Cairns
    Ken in Cairns
    6 years ago

    Ouch, sorry to hear that mate.


  • land_lubber
    land_lubber
    6 years ago
    So this is what happens when a bolt from your air filter gets sucked into your rear cylinder. Also has a bent push rod and something else was snapped. Valve was stuck open. Lucky it didn't happen while I was on the motorway though.

  • steelo
    steelo
    6 years ago
    Very sorry to hear LL
    Didn't see that one coming..
  • Kingchops
    Kingchops
    6 years ago
    A disturbing picture.   If you're going to continue to use that air cleaner, it might be worth putting some mesh over the intake to stop it happening again.  
  • Ken in Cairns
    Ken in Cairns
    6 years ago

    It was very lucky you were not at highway speeds mate, or even in traffic.

    I would not be surprised if the valve is also bent, and possibly the con rod.

    Time to build a 107 or 110 maybe as that head is probably stuffed, you may be able to repair the big gouge marks, as it can't be left in there, but you would have to CC both heads to even up the compression ratio.

    Are some 103 heads on gumtree and ebay.

  • land_lubber
    land_lubber
    6 years ago
    Got some more bad news today. The mechanic pulled the barrel off to look at that as well and its fucked along with a few other things. He is pulling the rest apart tomorrow but looks like I am going to need a whole new engine. Looks like my bike will be sitting for a while until I save up for one. Wonder what the price difference is between the current 103 and a 107 or 110?
  • land_lubber
    land_lubber
    6 years ago
    Here is a picture from the net of the air filter and I have circled the bolts that had come out.

  • Daggs
    Daggs
    6 years ago
    I'd be interested to hear what the rest of the damage is, a whole new engine seems a bit extreme if it's just barrels, pistons and a bit of headwork fixing valves etc
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