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  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    03 Nov 2018 03:50 PM
    Out for a ride today noticed this noise coming from primary, off throttle approaching stop sign ,whirring type whiny noise stops when pull in clutch can any one tell me what this possibly could  be, I understand it will be guess work without hearing it but I could use a clue as to what to expect chain adjuster ? compensator ? its a 2012 103c Roadking 38,000k thanks in advance 
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    03 Nov 2018 04:11 PM
    Clutch bearing would be my guess
  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    03 Nov 2018 04:37 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 03 Nov 2018 04:11 PM
    Clutch bearing would be my guess
    with my limited knowledge & probably a dumb statement  but wouldn`t the noise be there all the time if that was the case? as it stops when clutch is in
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    03 Nov 2018 04:58 PM
    Said it was a guess, bearings can sometimes be noisy freespinning but when the load changes they quieten down.
  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    03 Nov 2018 05:09 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 03 Nov 2018 04:58 PM
    Said it was a guess, bearings can sometimes be noisy freespinning but when the load changes they quieten down.
    OK mate thanks for taking the time cheers
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    03 Nov 2018 06:12 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 03 Nov 2018 04:58 PM
    Said it was a guess, bearings can sometimes be noisy freespinning but when the load changes they quieten down.
    Quoting gidgi on 03 Nov 2018 05:09 PM
    OK mate thanks for taking the time cheers
    All good, not much help I know but that is where I would start
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    03 Nov 2018 10:26 PM
    Any metal on the magnet? this is what I was thinking of, they call it the IPB, inner primary bearing, not clutch bearing, terminology, Baker make a good replacement, put one in my old Dyna.HD Forums Australia - BadBearing.jpg

  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    04 Nov 2018 07:16 AM
    Quoting Hilly on 03 Nov 2018 10:26 PM
    Any metal on the magnet? this is what I was thinking of, they call it the IPB, inner primary bearing, not clutch bearing, terminology, Baker make a good replacement, put one in my old Dyna.HD Forums Australia - BadBearing.jpg

    OK Hilly Thanks again mate . I checked out a couple of Video`s on You tube I now know what ya talking about ,spewin this happened at the start of the good weather. spose its a good time to check everything else in the primary . I mostly do a lot of work myself ,have done on all my bikes but failing eyes, patience  & lack of tools  haha looks like a trip to the workshop cheers 
  • robots Posts: 1103
    Performance Poster robots
    04 Nov 2018 08:07 AM
    re-install the chain adjuster, 

    shouldn't need to take to workshop (or backyarder), open primary and have a look around

    if its severe you will see damage
  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    04 Nov 2018 08:17 AM
    Quoting robots on 04 Nov 2018 08:07 AM
    re-install the chain adjuster, 

    shouldn't need to take to workshop (or backyarder), open primary and have a look around

    if its severe you will see damage
    No workshop manual for torque settings  no bearing puller / installer , the job itself don`t look to be beyond my capabilities but yeah taking the outer primary off would be a good start cheers
  • robots Posts: 1103
    Performance Poster robots
    04 Nov 2018 09:07 AM
    How you know the bearing stuffed.


  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    04 Nov 2018 10:13 AM
    Quoting robots on 04 Nov 2018 09:07 AM
    How you know the bearing stuffed.


    well I don`t know for sure as stated in OP whining noise heard & hilly suggested it could be inner bearing but won`t know until have a sticky beak either way I am grateful to all opinions cheers 
  • perthhog Posts: 1566
    Motor Head perthhog
    04 Nov 2018 10:30 AM
    Could be inner primary bearing ,clutch hub bearing ,gear box mainshaft bearing 
    1 of 3 all on the same shaft   As hilly said use a baker and now all balls
    Make a wider bearing for the inner primary bearing  if it’s a clutch hub
    Or main shaft your going to need a press or pullers to remove bearings 
    And you won’t see much anless you’ve ridden over it big time failure 
    As The bearings are hidden till you strip her down  maybe some metal 
    In primary but there normally is any way  ,if it’s a clutch hub bearing you
    Will need to strip the clutch pack to change the hub bearing(press)
    If it’s main you need a bearing puller  , you will need to strip the whole primary 
    To have look , to remove inner primary cover  as you need to remove 
    Clutch hub, compensating sprocket, chain before inner cover can be removed 

  • robots Posts: 1103
    Performance Poster robots
    04 Nov 2018 10:38 AM
    Check with baker but don't think make IPB for 2012. They stopped at 2007 as hd's improved. 
  • perthhog Posts: 1566
    Motor Head perthhog
    04 Nov 2018 10:53 AM
    Yep you’re right Roberts all balls don’t make a wider bearing for that year either 
    But do make a Oem replacement type kit for it 
  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    04 Nov 2018 01:44 PM
    thanks for all the info I have looked at some you tube posts as well as checking who makes IPB I did see All Balls made a Kit. Im off now to just take outer cover off for a look see any one know Torque specs for re tightening primary bolts ? 
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    04 Nov 2018 02:32 PM
    Here ya go...

    HD Forums Australia - IMG_20181104_133057.jpg

  • gidgi Posts: 676
    NSW
    Performance Poster gidgi
    04 Nov 2018 02:47 PM
    Quoting Hilly on 04 Nov 2018 02:32 PM
    Here ya go...

    HD Forums Australia - IMG_20181104_133057.jpg

    cheers hilly your a champion I got the sequence
  • Hilly Posts: 2342
    Townsville
    Motor Head Hilly
    04 Nov 2018 03:26 PM
    Welcome
  • keith Posts: 1628
    Perth West Aust {SOR}
    Motor Head keith
    08 Nov 2018 11:02 AM
    My Deluxe had the same whirring sound Rod, process off elimination, and back on the road.HD Forums Australia - P1020411.JPG

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