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  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2283
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    11 Nov 2018 05:52 AM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 10 Nov 2018 07:57 AM
    that looks alright, BUT , it an't a Motor sickle! ( no motor ) I have a electric mountain bike, you have to peddle to get assistance from the electric motor. has three levels of assistance. the lowest is 20% then next is 50% then  100%. I mostly just leave it in 20% as then I get a long range. when your speed hits 25kph the motor cuts out and your power the bike peddling. I  ride with a fast group on single track or fire trails in mountains. 50 to 60 k average about 20 k an hour. thing is the battery they use is heavy & has a limited number of charges to a life span & expensive takes a while to charge up if battery low.
    I think this bike is just to target inner urban set that do short rides ( cafe to cafe ) I also think Harley in a big panic . But I'm sure the bike will perform, but how heavy will it be?
    Quoting Wideglider on 10 Nov 2018 10:28 PMedited: 10 Nov 2018 10:30 PM
    Krash, it has a motor!
    With regards to your pedal assist bike, all good stuff but you have to compare apples with apples. I test rode the Zero motorcycle couple of years back, performance-wise I could say it would leave any road ridden piston engined bike for dead & that was technology from a few years back, the manufacturers have to actually limit the torque at certain revs to make the things rideable! Harley have an even newer tech setup & undoubtedly have improved the charge range, you will have choice of power/economy settings (just like your peddle assist bike).
    Wideglider I know the electric motors have strong torque. but your riding total loss ( battery not being recharged ) so the harder you ride the faster the battery drains. just have to find out how many watt the motor has how many amp hour the battery has. it's not free power.  and will have a very poor resale value.
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2283
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    11 Nov 2018 05:54 AM
    Quoting Ratbob on 11 Nov 2018 02:30 AM
    Leap forward 30 years, four old guys sitting outside the pub hearing
    Zzz...shooosh...whooosh.
    “Yeah man, don’t you love that distinctive Harley sound”.
    probably in future they will have banned two wheels if they have there way.
  • Humbug Posts: 359
    Darwin
    Stage 1 Poster Humbug
    11 Nov 2018 11:58 AM
    Quoting Ratbob on 11 Nov 2018 02:30 AM
    Leap forward 30 years, four old guys sitting outside the pub hearing
    Zzz...shooosh...whooosh.
    “Yeah man, don’t you love that distinctive Harley sound”.
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 11 Nov 2018 05:54 AM
    probably in future they will have banned two wheels if they have there way.
    Yep,for the safety of the people,can not have them running around hurting themselves on those two wheeled contraptions they are not safe.
  • Ratbob Posts: 551
    Adelaide Hills
    Performance Poster Ratbob
    11 Nov 2018 12:32 PM
    Quoting Ratbob on 11 Nov 2018 02:30 AM
    Leap forward 30 years, four old guys sitting outside the pub hearing
    Zzz...shooosh...whooosh.
    “Yeah man, don’t you love that distinctive Harley sound”.
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 11 Nov 2018 05:54 AM
    probably in future they will have banned two wheels if they have there way.
    Quoting Humbug on 11 Nov 2018 11:58 AM
    Yep,for the safety of the people,can not have them running around hurting themselves on those two wheeled contraptions they are not safe.
    Yeah, I saw recently that for safety BMW are working on a self ride motorcycle, what next, ban walking in case we stumble.  Don’t know what luxury Ferrari etc will do down the track. I saw a recent top gear segment showing a new breed of self drive Formula 1 style cars. If all this takes over, eliminating the driver/rider experience, it’ll make it pretty hard to sell one machine over another, why spend big bucks if you don’t get to enjoy the driving experience.
  • Smokey61 Posts: 643
    Townsville
    Performance Poster Smokey61
    11 Nov 2018 01:34 PM
    Quoting Krash Kinkade on 11 Nov 2018 05:54 AM
    probably in future they will have banned two wheels if they have there way.
    Quoting Humbug on 11 Nov 2018 11:58 AM
    Yep,for the safety of the people,can not have them running around hurting themselves on those two wheeled contraptions they are not safe.
    Quoting Ratbob on 11 Nov 2018 12:32 PM
    Yeah, I saw recently that for safety BMW are working on a self ride motorcycle, what next, ban walking in case we stumble.  Don’t know what luxury Ferrari etc will do down the track. I saw a recent top gear segment showing a new breed of self drive Formula 1 style cars. If all this takes over, eliminating the driver/rider experience, it’ll make it pretty hard to sell one machine over another, why spend big bucks if you don’t get to enjoy the driving experience.
    Maybe not *ban* walking yet, but helmets and maybe speed restrictions until all you unco ape descendents start taking responsibility for standing on your hind legs.

    Reckon the LiveWire would make a great second, third (or whatever works for however many bikes you already own) bike. It's not going to take the place of our favourite air compressor, it's a complement to it.
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