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  • Phelics Posts: 66
    Stock Poster Phelics
    09 Jan 2019 09:49 AM
    Quoting paulybronco on 09 Jan 2019 09:09 AM
    And even motorhomes, they were not branded with HD but the company owned Holiday Rambler and later sold it to Monaco Coach Company
    Quoting Phelics on 09 Jan 2019 09:28 AMedited: 09 Jan 2019 09:38 AM
    And these were all failures, right? Or at least, failures to expand the company’s range long term. 
    Quoting paulybronco on 09 Jan 2019 09:45 AM
    Yep a big tear up .....$105million loss or around the full turnover for 12mths
    Well, I dunno much about Harley’s finances. I don’t hold any of its shares either (phew?)

    All I can say is that this would have only appeared on this website on April Fools day. 
  • SONNY D Posts: 372
    brisbane
    Stage 1 Poster SONNY D
    09 Jan 2019 09:54 AM
    that "claimed 180 km " will be in economy mode. so if your doing any sort of spirited riding you can expect to find those figures cut in half. heres a clip from a review of the prototype....at least its an improvement from that !!
    The new bike will presumably build on the somewhat meager performance specs of LiveWire, the prototype electric motorcycle Harley-Davidson rolled out back in 2014. That bike was able to go from 0-60 mph in under four seconds, which was impressive, but it was limited to just 55 miles of range in “economy” mode.
  • Phelics Posts: 66
    Stock Poster Phelics
    09 Jan 2019 10:03 AM
    Basically, as presented, this is an “inner city motorcycle”. That’s fine, but for me, not $45k fine. I don’t understand the pricing logic. 

    I might just have to save up for the HD e-skates when they come out in 2031
  • paulybronco Posts: 10705
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    09 Jan 2019 10:13 AM
    Quoting SONNY D on 09 Jan 2019 09:54 AM
    that "claimed 180 km " will be in economy mode. so if your doing any sort of spirited riding you can expect to find those figures cut in half. heres a clip from a review of the prototype....at least its an improvement from that !!
    The new bike will presumably build on the somewhat meager performance specs of LiveWire, the prototype electric motorcycle Harley-Davidson rolled out back in 2014. That bike was able to go from 0-60 mph in under four seconds, which was impressive, but it was limited to just 55 miles of range in “economy” mode.
    With the size of the battery required to have a farther extended range and the restraints you have of the physical size of a bike will always be a challenge with current bat technology. 
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2338
    Motor Head Krash Kinkade
    09 Jan 2019 10:14 AM
    Quoting Far Canal on 08 Jan 2019 08:19 PM
    The $40k for the livewire is expensive. However the first models with anything, eg flat screen tvs, mobile phones or going way back even things like refrigerators and vacuum cleaners were dear until so many have em then the price goes down.
    It would seem that electric vehicles are the future and bearing down on us fast. Same thing will happen with them, price will go down.
    HD will have a challenge on it's hands differentiating it's bikes from any other makes if they are all silent rockets. I guess that goes for all the brands.
    Anyway, when the petrol runs out I'd have an electric bike any day. Hell yeah.
    If the electricity runs out I'd prefer a flaming pushbike to walking.
    Quoting paulybronco on 08 Jan 2019 09:15 PM
    Well done to you for thinking about the fact that one of the most important part of riding is indeed the aural pleasure of hearing an exhaust bark. No matter if its a v10 or a HD its a big part of the experience. How many of us wind the window down if we see a muscle car in the traffic just to hear old school twin pipes? Your 20 yr old kids only know turbo 4 cyl and blow off valves, their kids will only remember electric cars and bikes........fuck were getting old!
    what will become of those old school sticker's ( LOUD PIPES save lives ?? )
    with electric, you don't see it you don't smell it, you don't hear it, but when you feel it it shock's you.
    what no one has ever told me is , how do we dispose of the used batteries? also the type of battery they use, you need to mine to make them.

  • paulybronco Posts: 10705
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    09 Jan 2019 10:24 AM
    Here are some answers...




  • SONNY D Posts: 372
    brisbane
    Stage 1 Poster SONNY D
    11 Jan 2019 02:28 PM
    yeah im not looking forward to it either but unfortunately thats our future. we'll be able to tell our grandkids about the time when Harleys roamed the earth :)
    just on a side note the fastest production motorcycle in the world is an electric motorcycle ( kawasaki H2r doesnt count as its a race only bike ) it also holds the pikes peak record it set in 2013...thats against all comers not just the electric bike brigade. anyhow i found this clip on the bike i thought id post it up its a good watch !! oh and by the way this bike will do ( on current battery technology ) 300 miles or around 480 kms on one charge and will charge to 80% in around 20 mins...enough time to chug down your favourite brew then hit the road again. maybe HD should have a look at how these guys build their bikes...just saying !!



  • Far Canal Posts: 1393
    Performance Poster Far Canal
    11 Jan 2019 06:15 PM
    Enjoyed that clip Sonny.
    What a rocket!.
    $39,000 US.
  • Neale Posts: 339
    Richmond NSW
    Stage 1 Poster Neale
    12 Jan 2019 03:33 PM
    Quoting Far Canal on 11 Jan 2019 06:15 PM
    Enjoyed that clip Sonny.
    What a rocket!.
    $39,000 US.
    Yup, me too!
    If anyone's interested, go to you tube and watch the electric class at the Isle of Man races. There's onboard footage, it's insane how these things spool up.
  • Iron Posts: 275
    South Oz
    Stage 1 Poster Iron
    18 Jan 2019 09:10 AM



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