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  • paulybronco Posts: 12702
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    20 Jun 2019 07:36 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 20 Jun 2019 07:00 PM
    And i thought you had taste!!!
    Quoting Ratbob on 20 Jun 2019 07:05 PM
    Well Pauly, maybe a better description is pretentious. 
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 20 Jun 2019 07:09 PM
    I do have taste, I ride a Softail Slim S, not a hideous bagger hahaha
    Thats all good Hilly not everyone can be cool, save some more and aim higher next time.....LOL
  • Nutty Posts: 298
    Stage 1 Poster Nutty
    21 Jun 2019 04:25 AM
    Quoting Far Canal on 19 Jun 2019 07:39 PM
    The big problem BMW boxers have, and Guzzi's is that due to the engine configuration it is really difficult to put forward controls  on them.
    Who wants a laid back style bike, when your feet are sitting centimetres below your arse?. Unless you are a dwarf.
    Quoting paulybronco on 19 Jun 2019 09:09 PM
    You seem to be the only one that finds that a deal breaker
    Plus one here, the barrels are where your legs sit on ANY cruiser. I saw a vid of the R18 being ridden, the rider looked like he was on a GP bike. Fail IMO
  • Jay-Dee Posts: 136
    Great South East
    Stock Poster Jay-Dee
    21 Jun 2019 11:00 AM
    To me it's ugly, but still kind of cool, a bit like Christina Kineally the pollie, she's fucking annoying, but still kind of hot.
  • paulybronco Posts: 12702
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    21 Jun 2019 11:39 AM
    Quoting Jay-Dee on 21 Jun 2019 11:00 AM
    To me it's ugly, but still kind of cool, a bit like Christina Kineally the pollie, she's fucking annoying, but still kind of hot.
    But could you get forward controls on her....Ha Ha
  • berserker Posts: 63
    Stock Poster berserker
    21 Jun 2019 10:19 PM
    I'll be damned. I have to say, that's the first BMW I've ever seen that didn't disgust me. Their designs have always made me cringe but this one actually ain't bad. probably a 6 out of 10 for me. maybe even a 7 after a few beers. Its no Harley but its simple and old school. The only deal breaker is the width. after reading this thread I googled it and saw some close up photos. I don't think the cylinders sticking out that far will fit between 2 cars. If it cant lane split then deals definitely off.


    HD Forums Australia - bmw-r18-specs-concept-11-900x550.jpg

  • Jay-Dee Posts: 136
    Great South East
    Stock Poster Jay-Dee
    22 Jun 2019 09:44 AM
    Looking at that the guys commenting on no forward controls could at least rest their feet on the cylinders when they're cruising on the highway, they just need some good soles on their boots.

  • JamesJ Posts: 608
    Performance Poster JamesJ
    22 Jun 2019 05:10 PM
    Quoting Jay-Dee on 22 Jun 2019 09:44 AM
    Looking at that the guys commenting on no forward controls could at least rest their feet on the cylinders when they're cruising on the highway, they just need some good soles on their boots.

    If BMW were smart they would integrate a small steel cage over the top of the cylinders to provide the leg rest( A type of custom highway peg option) The current position does get a little warm over time and sits on the calf ankle area...
  • paulybronco Posts: 12702
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    22 Jun 2019 08:16 PM
    Quoting Jay-Dee on 22 Jun 2019 09:44 AM
    Looking at that the guys commenting on no forward controls could at least rest their feet on the cylinders when they're cruising on the highway, they just need some good soles on their boots.

    Quoting JamesJ on 22 Jun 2019 05:10 PM
    If BMW were smart they would integrate a small steel cage over the top of the cylinders to provide the leg rest( A type of custom highway peg option) The current position does get a little warm over time and sits on the calf ankle area...
    I think BMW are pretty smart, in fact they are very smart.
  • liberator Posts: 207
    Stock Poster liberator
    22 Jun 2019 08:54 PM
    This is a Bobber,   Bobbers had mid controls ,  
  • Jayman6 Posts: 939
    Gold Coast QLD
    Performance Poster Jayman6
    24 Jun 2019 08:42 AM
    Quoting Jay-Dee on 22 Jun 2019 09:44 AM
    Looking at that the guys commenting on no forward controls could at least rest their feet on the cylinders when they're cruising on the highway, they just need some good soles on their boots.

    Quoting JamesJ on 22 Jun 2019 05:10 PM
    If BMW were smart they would integrate a small steel cage over the top of the cylinders to provide the leg rest( A type of custom highway peg option) The current position does get a little warm over time and sits on the calf ankle area...
    Quoting paulybronco on 22 Jun 2019 08:16 PM
    I think BMW are pretty smart, in fact they are very smart.
    Can confirm. BMW are smart.
  • JamesJ Posts: 608
    Performance Poster JamesJ
    24 Jun 2019 04:28 PM
    Quoting JamesJ on 22 Jun 2019 05:10 PM
    If BMW were smart they would integrate a small steel cage over the top of the cylinders to provide the leg rest( A type of custom highway peg option) The current position does get a little warm over time and sits on the calf ankle area...
    Quoting paulybronco on 22 Jun 2019 08:16 PM
    I think BMW are pretty smart, in fact they are very smart.
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 08:42 AM
    Can confirm. BMW are smart.
    "smart" is indeed a relative term.One can have: "Smart"; as an indication of one's intelligence or in BMW's case brilliant engineering; a smart looking suit; a smart cookie, a smart car ,a smart phone ,or indeed, as recent forum participation indicates, a smart arse. I was using "smart" not in the mechanical engineering sense but in the sense of being in tune to the riders out there who would love a far more wide ranging list of options to prevent companies such as : Touratech,SW moto and Wunderlich from eating into the lucrative customization market that is open to BMW. :-p Apologies for not replying "quicksmart" 
  • Jayman6 Posts: 939
    Gold Coast QLD
    Performance Poster Jayman6
    24 Jun 2019 05:34 PM
    Quoting paulybronco on 22 Jun 2019 08:16 PM
    I think BMW are pretty smart, in fact they are very smart.
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 08:42 AM
    Can confirm. BMW are smart.
    Quoting JamesJ on 24 Jun 2019 04:28 PMedited: 24 Jun 2019 04:50 PM
    "smart" is indeed a relative term.One can have: "Smart"; as an indication of one's intelligence or in BMW's case brilliant engineering; a smart looking suit; a smart cookie, a smart car ,a smart phone ,or indeed, as recent forum participation indicates, a smart arse. I was using "smart" not in the mechanical engineering sense but in the sense of being in tune to the riders out there who would love a far more wide ranging list of options to prevent companies such as : Touratech,SW moto and Wunderlich from eating into the lucrative customization market that is open to BMW. :-p Apologies for not replying "quicksmart" 
    So a stock bike should have so much fruit that the buyer shouldn’t have to look to the aftermarket? Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?

  • ralphski Posts: 1111
    Performance Poster ralphski
    24 Jun 2019 07:25 PM
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 08:42 AM
    Can confirm. BMW are smart.
    Quoting JamesJ on 24 Jun 2019 04:28 PMedited: 24 Jun 2019 04:50 PM
    "smart" is indeed a relative term.One can have: "Smart"; as an indication of one's intelligence or in BMW's case brilliant engineering; a smart looking suit; a smart cookie, a smart car ,a smart phone ,or indeed, as recent forum participation indicates, a smart arse. I was using "smart" not in the mechanical engineering sense but in the sense of being in tune to the riders out there who would love a far more wide ranging list of options to prevent companies such as : Touratech,SW moto and Wunderlich from eating into the lucrative customization market that is open to BMW. :-p Apologies for not replying "quicksmart" 
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 05:34 PM
    So a stock bike should have so much fruit that the buyer shouldn’t have to look to the aftermarket? Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?

    :-) :-) :-)

  • JamesJ Posts: 608
    Performance Poster JamesJ
    24 Jun 2019 07:42 PM
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 08:42 AM
    Can confirm. BMW are smart.
    Quoting JamesJ on 24 Jun 2019 04:28 PMedited: 24 Jun 2019 04:50 PM
    "smart" is indeed a relative term.One can have: "Smart"; as an indication of one's intelligence or in BMW's case brilliant engineering; a smart looking suit; a smart cookie, a smart car ,a smart phone ,or indeed, as recent forum participation indicates, a smart arse. I was using "smart" not in the mechanical engineering sense but in the sense of being in tune to the riders out there who would love a far more wide ranging list of options to prevent companies such as : Touratech,SW moto and Wunderlich from eating into the lucrative customization market that is open to BMW. :-p Apologies for not replying "quicksmart" 
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 05:34 PM
    So a stock bike should have so much fruit that the buyer shouldn’t have to look to the aftermarket? Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?

    In anything I said here or previously did I ever advocate not enhancing stock bikes? 
    Or that stock bikes should cater for all riders straight off the production line?
    ...No I did not... fella.My bikes have more "fruit" than Carmen Miranda's hat, so I do understand, firsthand ,the concept of buying aftermarket parts.
    Regarding your summary relegation of me to  "fantasy land" based on the above misinterpretations ,I reiterate this point-
     HD have a huge range of add-ons to their  stock bikes with said parts being manufactured by HD -BMW do not have such a wide range ,hence the void that needs to be filled by 3rd party aftermarket manufacturers.I'm merely saying that BMW should offer more BMW made options (the way HD does) so the buyer could first consider looking  to BMW made options to enhance his stock bike anytime after purchase.I speak as a BMW bike owner past and present not in the hypothetical. 
    If someone makes a point or raises an argument with which you disagree it's far better to ridicule the point or counter the argument than resort to a personal cheap-shot like "Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?"   this is especially so if the arrogant derision is based on a point or argument that was not advanced. 
    I'm going to climb down from the cloud atop Enid Blyton's Faraway Tree now and leave behind the "land of crossed purposes" .
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2823
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    25 Jun 2019 09:10 AM
    Quoting Far Canal on 19 Jun 2019 07:39 PM
    The big problem BMW boxers have, and Guzzi's is that due to the engine configuration it is really difficult to put forward controls  on them.
    Who wants a laid back style bike, when your feet are sitting centimetres below your arse?. Unless you are a dwarf.
    you can look at it that way, but long ago I gave up forward control's and highway pegs. as I found if you want to ride fast, feet & arm's forward you turn into a parachute .
    the BMW never been my style but it looks ok. I saw a big group of all BMW riders all from Canberra. and one was on a new cafe racer style twin that looked ok. the GS style BMW look ugly to me but are popular. so good to see some style coming from BMW. they look to be going back to there roots, as modern = ugly.

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2823
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    25 Jun 2019 09:28 AM
    Quoting berserker on 21 Jun 2019 10:19 PM
    I'll be damned. I have to say, that's the first BMW I've ever seen that didn't disgust me. Their designs have always made me cringe but this one actually ain't bad. probably a 6 out of 10 for me. maybe even a 7 after a few beers. Its no Harley but its simple and old school. The only deal breaker is the width. after reading this thread I googled it and saw some close up photos. I don't think the cylinders sticking out that far will fit between 2 cars. If it cant lane split then deals definitely off.


    HD Forums Australia - bmw-r18-specs-concept-11-900x550.jpg

    that's a good shot of the motor!!
    Interesting how long the manifold is ( but being an old carb man have to remember, fuel injected ) I can't see injectors down near the head? also look at them chrome push rod covers ( always thought BMW had gone OHC? ) if they are inclosing push rods and cam followers, it looks like an angle from follower to the push rod? Also with that old design you would have to expect a lot of hot oil laying down the lower side of barrels?
    this looks air cooled? I thought latter BMW boxer twins wet water cooled? they have stollen the thick & thin pin stripe on the side of the tank off HD!!
  • Jayman6 Posts: 939
    Gold Coast QLD
    Performance Poster Jayman6
    25 Jun 2019 10:53 AM
    Quoting JamesJ on 24 Jun 2019 04:28 PMedited: 24 Jun 2019 04:50 PM
    "smart" is indeed a relative term.One can have: "Smart"; as an indication of one's intelligence or in BMW's case brilliant engineering; a smart looking suit; a smart cookie, a smart car ,a smart phone ,or indeed, as recent forum participation indicates, a smart arse. I was using "smart" not in the mechanical engineering sense but in the sense of being in tune to the riders out there who would love a far more wide ranging list of options to prevent companies such as : Touratech,SW moto and Wunderlich from eating into the lucrative customization market that is open to BMW. :-p Apologies for not replying "quicksmart" 
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 05:34 PM
    So a stock bike should have so much fruit that the buyer shouldn’t have to look to the aftermarket? Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?

    Quoting JamesJ on 24 Jun 2019 07:42 PMedited: 25 Jun 2019 07:16 AM
    In anything I said here or previously did I ever advocate not enhancing stock bikes? 
    Or that stock bikes should cater for all riders straight off the production line?
    ...No I did not... fella.My bikes have more "fruit" than Carmen Miranda's hat, so I do understand, firsthand ,the concept of buying aftermarket parts.
    Regarding your summary relegation of me to  "fantasy land" based on the above misinterpretations ,I reiterate this point-
     HD have a huge range of add-ons to their  stock bikes with said parts being manufactured by HD -BMW do not have such a wide range ,hence the void that needs to be filled by 3rd party aftermarket manufacturers.I'm merely saying that BMW should offer more BMW made options (the way HD does) so the buyer could first consider looking  to BMW made options to enhance his stock bike anytime after purchase.I speak as a BMW bike owner past and present not in the hypothetical. 
    If someone makes a point or raises an argument with which you disagree it's far better to ridicule the point or counter the argument than resort to a personal cheap-shot like "Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?"   this is especially so if the arrogant derision is based on a point or argument that was not advanced. 
    I'm going to climb down from the cloud atop Enid Blyton's Faraway Tree now and leave behind the "land of crossed purposes" .
    No malice or personal cheap shots intended mate, & apologies for any offence caused. All meant as as light hearted banter.
  • JamesJ Posts: 608
    Performance Poster JamesJ
    25 Jun 2019 01:43 PM
    Quoting Jayman6 on 24 Jun 2019 05:34 PM
    So a stock bike should have so much fruit that the buyer shouldn’t have to look to the aftermarket? Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?

    Quoting JamesJ on 24 Jun 2019 07:42 PMedited: 25 Jun 2019 07:16 AM
    In anything I said here or previously did I ever advocate not enhancing stock bikes? 
    Or that stock bikes should cater for all riders straight off the production line?
    ...No I did not... fella.My bikes have more "fruit" than Carmen Miranda's hat, so I do understand, firsthand ,the concept of buying aftermarket parts.
    Regarding your summary relegation of me to  "fantasy land" based on the above misinterpretations ,I reiterate this point-
     HD have a huge range of add-ons to their  stock bikes with said parts being manufactured by HD -BMW do not have such a wide range ,hence the void that needs to be filled by 3rd party aftermarket manufacturers.I'm merely saying that BMW should offer more BMW made options (the way HD does) so the buyer could first consider looking  to BMW made options to enhance his stock bike anytime after purchase.I speak as a BMW bike owner past and present not in the hypothetical. 
    If someone makes a point or raises an argument with which you disagree it's far better to ridicule the point or counter the argument than resort to a personal cheap-shot like "Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?"   this is especially so if the arrogant derision is based on a point or argument that was not advanced. 
    I'm going to climb down from the cloud atop Enid Blyton's Faraway Tree now and leave behind the "land of crossed purposes" .
    Quoting Jayman6 on 25 Jun 2019 10:53 AM
    No malice or personal cheap shots intended mate, & apologies for any offence caused. All meant as as light hearted banter.
    Thank you for a classy reply
    all good
  • paulybronco Posts: 12702
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    25 Jun 2019 09:08 PM
    Quoting JamesJ on 24 Jun 2019 07:42 PMedited: 25 Jun 2019 07:16 AM
    In anything I said here or previously did I ever advocate not enhancing stock bikes? 
    Or that stock bikes should cater for all riders straight off the production line?
    ...No I did not... fella.My bikes have more "fruit" than Carmen Miranda's hat, so I do understand, firsthand ,the concept of buying aftermarket parts.
    Regarding your summary relegation of me to  "fantasy land" based on the above misinterpretations ,I reiterate this point-
     HD have a huge range of add-ons to their  stock bikes with said parts being manufactured by HD -BMW do not have such a wide range ,hence the void that needs to be filled by 3rd party aftermarket manufacturers.I'm merely saying that BMW should offer more BMW made options (the way HD does) so the buyer could first consider looking  to BMW made options to enhance his stock bike anytime after purchase.I speak as a BMW bike owner past and present not in the hypothetical. 
    If someone makes a point or raises an argument with which you disagree it's far better to ridicule the point or counter the argument than resort to a personal cheap-shot like "Good luck fella. How’s life in fantasy land?"   this is especially so if the arrogant derision is based on a point or argument that was not advanced. 
    I'm going to climb down from the cloud atop Enid Blyton's Faraway Tree now and leave behind the "land of crossed purposes" .
    Quoting Jayman6 on 25 Jun 2019 10:53 AM
    No malice or personal cheap shots intended mate, & apologies for any offence caused. All meant as as light hearted banter.
    Quoting JamesJ on 25 Jun 2019 01:43 PM
    Thank you for a classy reply
    all good
    See we are nice people in QLD...
  • JamesJ Posts: 608
    Performance Poster JamesJ
    25 Jun 2019 10:13 PM
    Quoting Jayman6 on 25 Jun 2019 10:53 AM
    No malice or personal cheap shots intended mate, & apologies for any offence caused. All meant as as light hearted banter.
    Quoting JamesJ on 25 Jun 2019 01:43 PM
    Thank you for a classy reply
    all good
    Quoting paulybronco on 25 Jun 2019 09:08 PM
    See we are nice people in QLD...
    How can you not be with the weather you have?
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