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  • grooveyguru Posts: 87
    Stock Poster grooveyguru
    20 Jan 2020 06:31 PM
    Quoting John.R on 20 Jan 2020 01:25 PM
    There is a complete crate motor, and then there is the kit.

    Reports are around $7k USD for crate motor
    Quoting tussuck on 20 Jan 2020 01:50 PM
    Wow....$7k (and I rpresume that does not include installation)

    At the cost a Procharger or Turbo would probabley be a better deal. (mind its not like I'm ever going to drop that sort of cash on a motor!  be nice to have the pocket change to be able to though)
    Quoting paulybronco on 20 Jan 2020 02:15 PM
    I also would not drop that sort of coin but its really not bad value considering what you get along with the added performance
    Only problem is there is word that HD want your old cases back if you buy the crate motor. Something to do with having to stamping your engine number on the new motor so you can't have 2 motors with the same engine number. Seems silly to me, why don't they just give the new motor a different prefix like HDSE?
  • tussuck Posts: 2466
    Melbourne
    Motor Head tussuck
    20 Jan 2020 08:06 PM
    Thats really Hinkey!  Typical of Harley though.
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    20 Jan 2020 08:37 PM
    Quoting tussuck on 20 Jan 2020 01:50 PM
    Wow....$7k (and I rpresume that does not include installation)

    At the cost a Procharger or Turbo would probabley be a better deal. (mind its not like I'm ever going to drop that sort of cash on a motor!  be nice to have the pocket change to be able to though)
    Quoting paulybronco on 20 Jan 2020 02:15 PM
    I also would not drop that sort of coin but its really not bad value considering what you get along with the added performance
    Quoting grooveyguru on 20 Jan 2020 06:31 PM
    Only problem is there is word that HD want your old cases back if you buy the crate motor. Something to do with having to stamping your engine number on the new motor so you can't have 2 motors with the same engine number. Seems silly to me, why don't they just give the new motor a different prefix like HDSE?
    so the new cases have larger holes in them & 131 barrels would not go into stock cases as too large?
  • ralphski Posts: 1118
    Performance Poster ralphski
    20 Jan 2020 09:14 PM
    AUD cost ? 
  • Ken in Cairns Posts: 635
    Cairns FNQ
    Performance Poster Ken in Cairns
    22 Jan 2020 12:33 PM
    Previously posted as 7 k USD, so about 10 grand plus shipping and I guess import duty etc.

  • speedzter Posts: 1856
    The 'Rat
    Motor Head speedzter
    01 Feb 2020 12:54 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



  • bigfella236 Posts: 144
    Perth
    Stock Poster bigfella236
    01 Feb 2020 02:40 PM
    more power Tim 
  • ralphski Posts: 1118
    Performance Poster ralphski
    01 Feb 2020 08:38 PM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    good torque, but horsepower is lacking
  • paulybronco Posts: 13332
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    01 Feb 2020 10:35 PM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    Quoting ralphski on 01 Feb 2020 08:38 PM
    good torque, but horsepower is lacking
    Possibly the exhaust holding it back, both lines look nice
  • ralphski Posts: 1118
    Performance Poster ralphski
    02 Feb 2020 08:29 AM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    Quoting ralphski on 01 Feb 2020 08:38 PM
    good torque, but horsepower is lacking
    Quoting paulybronco on 01 Feb 2020 10:35 PM
    Possibly the exhaust holding it back, both lines look nice
    probably a torque cam for the bagger range
    yes agree, great looking lines
    in a Softail you'd probably like the numbers around the other way
  • Evo Wide Posts: 169
    Stock Poster Evo Wide
    02 Feb 2020 11:09 PM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    How come the 108 cube Indian engine in the Challenger put out the same HP stock
  • Wideglider Posts: 1036
    NSW
    Performance Poster Wideglider
    02 Feb 2020 11:20 PM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    Quoting Evo Wide on 02 Feb 2020 11:09 PM
    How come the 108 cube Indian engine in the Challenger put out the same HP stock
    Suppose HD make big money with upgrade kits.
  • speedzter Posts: 1856
    The 'Rat
    Motor Head speedzter
    02 Feb 2020 11:51 PM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    Quoting Evo Wide on 02 Feb 2020 11:09 PM
    How come the 108 cube Indian engine in the Challenger put out the same HP stock

    The Challenger doesn't, it falls a long way short.





  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    03 Feb 2020 12:38 PM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    Quoting ralphski on 01 Feb 2020 08:38 PM
    good torque, but horsepower is lacking
    Looks to me like they backed off early as was 5,500 rpm & HP was not starting to drop. that motor has 4.3" bore think 4.5" stroke. 
    having said that the average rider would find that HP & TQ a bit hard to use all they have, & to me if you can't use everything you got the wrong bike.

  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    03 Feb 2020 12:43 PM
    Quoting speedzter on 01 Feb 2020 12:54 PMedited: 01 Feb 2020 12:58 PM
    Real world testing of the SE 131 kit, tuned legally with the street tuner, EPA approved.



    Quoting Evo Wide on 02 Feb 2020 11:09 PM
    How come the 108 cube Indian engine in the Challenger put out the same HP stock
    Quoting Wideglider on 02 Feb 2020 11:20 PM
    Suppose HD make big money with upgrade kits.
    wide glide that Indian challenger took 9 seconds wide open to get to 5,500rpm when I counted, that is too slow. as if you go to the track and you change gear four times, your never going to have it wide open in any gear for nine seconds.
  • paulybronco Posts: 13332
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    13 Feb 2020 06:04 PM



  • Far Canal Posts: 2326
    Motor Head Far Canal
    13 Feb 2020 08:32 PM
    Where does it all end?.
    Numbers, HP, Torque, etc.
    Rossi would still whip ya on a 125cc skateboard.
  • paulybronco Posts: 13332
    Forum Legend paulybronco
    13 Feb 2020 09:46 PM
    Quoting Far Canal on 13 Feb 2020 08:32 PM
    Where does it all end?.
    Numbers, HP, Torque, etc.
    Rossi would still whip ya on a 125cc skateboard.
    Ha Ha
  • Krash Kinkade Posts: 2957
    Forum Legend Krash Kinkade
    14 Feb 2020 11:33 AM
    Quoting Far Canal on 13 Feb 2020 08:32 PM
    Where does it all end?.
    Numbers, HP, Torque, etc.
    Rossi would still whip ya on a 125cc skateboard.
    Amen!!
  • tussuck Posts: 2466
    Melbourne
    Motor Head tussuck
    14 Feb 2020 03:51 PM
    What really gob smacked me was the pathetic low HP in Stock form....Mind you is was not really that chit hot after the kit either.

    Cannot believe folks spend absolute fortunes for bloody average results.
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