Leaked Photo New Lowrider S 110 CI

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  • Krash Kinkade
    Krash Kinkade
    7 years ago

    I have noticed since ABS Harley brakes , I could pull almost in to hand grip. Wondering what could make them improve with few k's up?

    I might be old fashioned, but if I get a LRs I would want them to put a set of street bob stock pipes on it, then would put slip on's as they always work for me. But I have never had a HD EFI or with a cat in pipe( must be showing my age ) but I know can get EFI perfect & have map's pre set you can load up so can have it set up perfect for anything you like to do. Just I've also seen some very quick old HD's that are very simple & carb, but also bit harder to live with. So EFI makes life easier!! But with that big 110c I d motor twin front brakes & under 30k that's got to be a winner!! Enjoy & if get down the track one night or at street meet, just let me know what trap speed it does.

     

  • brash
    brash
    7 years ago
    few things I've observed.

    Does anyone else's brakes make a high pitched noise when applied? Sort of like cicada's..... that's the best I can describe it?

    I thought I had a front brake leak somewhere, The front wheel had some streaks/smears of fluid on it. I think it may be from the front wheel bearing instead. I wiped under the caliper and there was something on there. Not sure if assembly grease or brake fluid or what it is. I will get the dealer to check it regardless because the Flush mount fuel cap LED is up the shit.

    Anyway, I've got the hang of this bike, so much so the rear tyre is looking sad already haha. It will smoke first like it's going out of fashion, if I ride the brakes I can cog 2nd and it will it's like a bushfire behind me for as long as you have the cojones to keep it on. I can only imagine how a well tuned 117 would go.
  • brash
    brash
    7 years ago
    Got 800km's on it now, so far so good I think.

    What I thought was a failed wheel bearing or leaking brake fluid was actually just too much grease packed into the bearing and flicking onto the wheel. Not a bad thing but made a mess of the wheel for a bit.

    Parts are filtering in, of all places from Lebanon.
    repop Quarter fairing, laminar lip and a cool FXR Sport repop front fender from Deviant Fabrications.



    When a company says "direct bolt on" take that shit with a grain of salt.... but got it on there.

  • robots
    robots
    7 years ago
    Nice ride 
  • steelo
    steelo
    7 years ago
    Love your little buddy Brash
  • brash
    brash
    7 years ago
    thanks lads.
  • LOFTYBOB
    LOFTYBOB
    7 years ago
    Looking good, a chin spoiler would add to it??
    We love French Bulldogs as well mate
  • brash
    brash
    7 years ago
    Little Birdy told me that the FXDLS is not going to be around in 2018.

    I wonder what this will do for resale and parts support. Oh well worry about that later because I am enjoying this bike too much to care :)
  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    Hopefully HD Aus will recall these bikes for an ECM update.

    I don't know about anyone else, but these things are hard to start. There is 2 issues. The ACR (Active compression release) does not work properly (even when toggled on/off in the tune) plus the battery is not up for the load these bikes require on start up.

    I have rectified it somewhat by pulling 3 degrees from the cranking area of the timing map.

    HD USA have released a new Strategy for the ECM called "strategy 621" Most likely you will have the Strategy 617 map in your bike. There is currently a recall for the FXDLS in the states.

    I have bought this up with my dealer numerous times and they keep saying "keep it on the trickle charger" when there is a genuine issue with the base calibration. This is not something you can fuck with in Powervision or SERT, it goes deeper into the Cal than that so will be a matter of getting the update and then applying your VE's/Timing Tables to the new tune unfortunately. I am in talks with Jamie from Fuel Moto about a update to future FXDLS maps for Powervision.

    So if you have a hard starting FXDLS good news, something is hopefully coming! I am gonna make a paper airplane and peg this at the service managers head because they have been nothing but unhelpful.



  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    OK update is released from DynoJet and Fuel moto if you have powervision.

    Update your Firmware and tune database, the map should be "Strategy 621" in the info.

    Simply copy and paste your VE/Spark & any other changes made to the 621 map, save the changes and flash to bike.

    I just did a quick test start and the thing starts like a demon now! When the ignition is flicked on there is a loud audible click as described in the recall.

    Goes to show the ACR's were not doing shit all along.
  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    Thanks Hilly.

    Can confirm this update makes a HUGE difference to how these things start!

    Bike was on Dyno Today, 50+ pulls, bike shut off each time to flash the PV for each incremental change. Started like a champ each and every time. Possibly the hardest test of the starter/battery there could be. Not a problem.

    Bike made 95/114 so very happy with that. Made 88/106 as delivered. Bassani Road Rage 3 Two into one and stock heavy breather.
  • mang
    mang
    6 years ago
    I was down at Harley heaven on the weekend, they are now doing the recall.

    Harley should be sending out letters soon, but the guys told me to just book my bike in and bring my race tuner with me so they can copy the map over.

  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    anyone elses engine a noisy mongrel of a thing.

    On cold startup I swear there is piston slap or a lifter not pumping up, last for a while too. Once warm the valvetrain noise between 2300-2800rpm is so fuckin annoying. I presume it's the rockers hitting the bolt like a lot of twin cams do.

    Back to the shop again today for them to check it out. Good excuse for a 117 kit haha
  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    Took it in, For them to say "yeah that aint right" means somethings definitely wrong. Didn't have to leave it with them but booked in for next week.

    I dunno if I'm been paranoid, but I could almost swear it's down on power a bit too.

    Spacewolf, what were the symptoms of crank scissoring? Huge vibration I would imagine? I rode a mates 103 Streetbob on the weekend and the bike was quiet, smooth and refined. Jumped back on mine and it felt like a jackhammer in comparison. This isn't my first Twin Cam A engine, but it's been a while since I'd been on one and I thought it was just normal twin cam behavior.

    Hopefully get it sorted out. I will be pissed if they come back and say "oh it's just normal 110 sounds". Luckily I know the head tech so he will do a good job I'm certain.

    Lofty, I wont lie. It's crossed my mind for sure.
  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    thanks mate good info.

    The two techs I know are both very good and I trust they will find the issue. He did tell me "off the record" on a ride we were doing that the 110's eat lifters like it's a free breakfast so that's probably the culprit. If the lifters come out, so does the cam chest so I'll ask him to check runout too.
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    Not good when even the harley technicians are saying that about the lifters. I wonder if better quality lifters like the S&s ones do any better 
  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    The S&S standards are the "go to" for lifters.

    Unfortunately I don't think they will replace it with anything aftermarket and maintain warranty. Chuck the same problematic Screamin Eagle ones back in.
  • brash
    brash
    6 years ago
    yep, I'll be back in another 5000km's probably.

    Fuck it just throw a 117 in it haha
  • fatbat
    fatbat
    6 years ago
    Thanks for taking the time to reply and what you've reported makes sense. It's reported a bit more on the Yankee forums and your info re the Brisbane dealer suggests it's not a rare occurrence. 
    I can't help but wonder if the 110 engine's whole lot of torque right off idle has something to do with it. It's a combination of the extra displacement and that early torque cam that enables too much torque too early on the crank?

    It doesn't seem to happen as much on other harley engines but none come out of factory with as much torque down low. 

    Most people who modify their bikes put bigger cams in with later intake close which moves the torque further up the rev range so the problem doesn't exist unless riders lugg hard on a high torque engine. 

    All the harley upgrade kits, such as the 117 and 120r have cams that are arguably overcammed for the application giving less cylinder pressure and torque down low thus avoiding the issue. 

    Dunno if these crank issues were happening with the original CVO 110 engines or not. I wonder if they had higher quality manufacturing processes back then for the cvos which were more limited in volume. 

    Just thinking aloud. Hope it doesn't happen to mine and others. 

    Spacewolf you gonna get the 117 kit in once it's all apart?
  • spacewolf
    spacewolf
    6 years ago
    We had a 117 kit in it, and the dealer's honouring that warranty too. So new 110, new 117 kit. New filtration system too.
    The 117 does change the onset of the torque curve yes. 

    The early 110's were failing at a higher rate than the later ones.

    Good luck, hope it all works out ok. Happy to answer any questions.
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