What could it be?

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  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    Hi guys I'm new to the Harley scene and purchased a 2018 Softail Slim. 
    I just did or should I say attempted a ride to Wondai . When I left home yesterday morning the battery light came on. I made it to Moore bur before getting into Moore the speedo sh!t itself and I lost all my rear lights. Just before pulling up the bike started surging. 
    I turned the bike off and had a look at the terminals and they were all good. I then tried starting it back up and got nothing but a weird grinding noise. Does anyone have any theories as to what is the problem?
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    4 years ago
    Bucked fattery?
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 19 May 2019 03:11 AM

    Bucked fattery?

    With you Hilly, maybe a regulator rectifier causing the drama
  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 19 May 2019 03:11 AM

    Bucked fattery?

    Quoting paulybronco on 19 May 2019 03:19 AM

    With you Hilly, maybe a regulator rectifier causing the drama

    I'm with you Pauly because it arked up completely fine that morning.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 19 May 2019 03:11 AM

    Bucked fattery?

    Quoting paulybronco on 19 May 2019 03:19 AM

    With you Hilly, maybe a regulator rectifier causing the drama

    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 04:36 AM

    I'm with you Pauly because it arked up completely fine that morning.

    Its not a cheap replacement part sadly, recall $300+ for my Street Glide
  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    Quoting paulybronco on 19 May 2019 03:19 AM

    With you Hilly, maybe a regulator rectifier causing the drama

    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 04:36 AM

    I'm with you Pauly because it arked up completely fine that morning.

    Quoting paulybronco on 19 May 2019 04:43 AM

    Its not a cheap replacement part sadly, recall $300+ for my Street Glide

    Oh this'll be warranty. This bike's only 5 months old.
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 04:36 AM

    I'm with you Pauly because it arked up completely fine that morning.

    Quoting paulybronco on 19 May 2019 04:43 AM

    Its not a cheap replacement part sadly, recall $300+ for my Street Glide

    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 04:46 AM

    Oh this'll be warranty. This bike's only 5 months old.

    Cool keep us updated if thats what they diagnose
  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    Will do??
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 19 May 2019 03:11 AM

    Bucked fattery?

    Not doubting you mate but Why a grinding noise? 
    When my battery’s knackered, it just engages the starter and clicks a bit. Hasn’t the guts to turn it over. Are you saying the grinding is caused because the starter turns but doesn’t quite engage?
  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 19 May 2019 03:11 AM

    Bucked fattery?

    Quoting Ratbob on 19 May 2019 08:10 AM

    Not doubting you mate but Why a grinding noise? 

    When my battery’s knackered, it just engages the starter and clicks a bit. Hasn’t the guts to turn it over. Are you saying the grinding is caused because the starter turns but doesn’t quite engage?

    That could be a theory. Would that be stator related? The noise comes from directly below the seat. I don't know what's used to turn the bike over from under there, as I'm not mechanically inclined. 
  • Ratbob
    Ratbob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Grease Monkey on 19 May 2019 03:11 AM

    Bucked fattery?

    Quoting Ratbob on 19 May 2019 08:10 AM

    Not doubting you mate but Why a grinding noise? 

    When my battery’s knackered, it just engages the starter and clicks a bit. Hasn’t the guts to turn it over. Are you saying the grinding is caused because the starter turns but doesn’t quite engage?

    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 08:43 AM

    That could be a theory. Would that be stator related? The noise comes from directly below the seat. I don't know what's used to turn the bike over from under there, as I'm not mechanically inclined. 

    Yeah mate I’m no engineer either but as you said, the starter is pretty much directly under the seat. When you look at your huge Primary cover on the left side, the starter sits between the top rear two bolts, closer to the top right hand bolt. I imagine the grinding sound would be fairly high pitched as the teeth skirted across the gear.
    If it’s a relay, maybe it’s more of a fast clicking sound.
    Grease Monkey will sort us out.
  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 19 May 2019 08:10 AM

    Not doubting you mate but Why a grinding noise? 

    When my battery’s knackered, it just engages the starter and clicks a bit. Hasn’t the guts to turn it over. Are you saying the grinding is caused because the starter turns but doesn’t quite engage?

    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 08:43 AM

    That could be a theory. Would that be stator related? The noise comes from directly below the seat. I don't know what's used to turn the bike over from under there, as I'm not mechanically inclined. 

    Quoting Ratbob on 19 May 2019 09:42 AM

    Yeah mate I’m no engineer either but as you said, the starter is pretty much directly under the seat. When you look at your huge Primary cover on the left side, the starter sits between the top rear two bolts, closer to the top right hand bolt. I imagine the grinding sound would be fairly high pitched as the teeth skirted across the gear.

    If it’s a relay, maybe it’s more of a fast clicking sound.
    Grease Monkey will sort us out.

    If it is the starter, what would cause it to fail so early?
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 08:43 AM

    That could be a theory. Would that be stator related? The noise comes from directly below the seat. I don't know what's used to turn the bike over from under there, as I'm not mechanically inclined. 

    Quoting Ratbob on 19 May 2019 09:42 AM

    Yeah mate I’m no engineer either but as you said, the starter is pretty much directly under the seat. When you look at your huge Primary cover on the left side, the starter sits between the top rear two bolts, closer to the top right hand bolt. I imagine the grinding sound would be fairly high pitched as the teeth skirted across the gear.

    If it’s a relay, maybe it’s more of a fast clicking sound.
    Grease Monkey will sort us out.

    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 09:46 AM

    If it is the starter, what would cause it to fail so early?

    Harley cheap parts is the truthful answer
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    4 years ago
    It's warranty for sure, sort of need to hear it myself to point at something with any real confidence, is it at the dealer yet?
  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    Quoting Ratbob on 19 May 2019 09:42 AM

    Yeah mate I’m no engineer either but as you said, the starter is pretty much directly under the seat. When you look at your huge Primary cover on the left side, the starter sits between the top rear two bolts, closer to the top right hand bolt. I imagine the grinding sound would be fairly high pitched as the teeth skirted across the gear.

    If it’s a relay, maybe it’s more of a fast clicking sound.
    Grease Monkey will sort us out.

    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 09:46 AM

    If it is the starter, what would cause it to fail so early?

    Quoting paulybronco on 19 May 2019 09:53 AM

    Harley cheap parts is the truthful answer

    After 0800 tomorrow morning it's going to be Harleys problem Pauly. Then there's the wait, and f**k knows how long that's going to take. 
  • MuscleBob
    MuscleBob
    4 years ago
    This is the type of sound I'm hearing, but why would I loose the speedo and lights?

  • steelo
    steelo
    4 years ago
    Easy. Someone has stolen the rest of the bike
  • paulybronco
    paulybronco
    4 years ago
    Quoting steelo on 19 May 2019 10:52 AM

    Easy. Someone has stolen the rest of the bike

    Lunatic
  • Grease Monkey
    Grease Monkey
    4 years ago
    Quoting MuscleBob on 19 May 2019 10:49 AM

    This is the type of sound I'm hearing, but why would I loose the speedo and lights?

    If your battery has dropped a cell it can appear charged until loaded, if it doesn't have enough grunt the solenoid can jump in and out like that, load test your battery by putting a multimeter on it and hit the start button and see what the reading drops to, should not drop below 8-9 volts under load if it's good.
  • Wideglider
    Wideglider
    4 years ago
    Funny video there - that slow-talking American drawl, the video is 3 times longer than it had to be! 
    It's a "clicky-click" as he says - not grinding. 
    Check battery terminals connections & voltage.
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